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MadDogMike
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From: The Anvil of the Sun
Posted: 2017-03-16 08:55 am   Permalink

OK, after lots of great input and some thought I have a theme for the Swap - 100 Years of Stephen Crane. Stephen would have been 100 years old this year so we will honor this Tiki pioneer with art inspired by him and his restaurants - The Beverly Hills Luau. Ports o' Call in San Pedro, Toronto, and Dallas. The Kon Tiki in Cincinnati, Waikiki, and Cleveland. Lots of material to choose from including matchbooks or drink menus that were included as possible themes.

Let's end the Swap July 31, which will give us time for any Swappers who are attending Tiki Oasis (Aug 10th) to swap in person if the occasion presents itself.

Official Swap Rules - Artists create an work of Tiki art based on the "Stephen Crane" theme. Can be any media; clay, wood, paint, fabric, beads, digital, metal, glass, mixed media, etc. The intent is for this to be an original "one-off" work of art, not part of a mass produced run. If it is created from an existing mold it should be heavily modified. Digital art or screen prints should be printed on a nice substrate, not just run off on a piece of art pad paper. You must post a picture of your finished piece by the deadline in order to be included in the drawing, anyone who does not show evidence of a finished project will not be included in the name drawing. Names will be drawn at random and paired together, these people will swap art. Remember that you will probably ship your art to your partner, don't make anything so large or heavy that it cannot be shipped cost effectively. If you are not an established Swapper and/or established TC member, I will ask for real name and cell phone number so we have a solid contact in the event of a problem. Most of all, have fun and interact with some fellow TC folks

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Sadly, Art Swap participation has been slowly decreasing and our last Swap was the first one with single digit participants Most years we have had a Winter and a Summer Swap, this year there was no call for a Winter Swap so I didn't bring it up.

I think there are some assorted reasons why participation is dropping -
1) Overall Tiki Central traffic is way down as far as I can tell. Probably too many years of infighting (TC as a whole, not this group) at a time when Facebook was on the rise.
2) Several people have been burned over the years when they sent out art and didn't get any back
3) Theme choice is important, sometimes a theme just doesn't appeal to individuals who would normally participate.

If we are going to have a Summer Swap to end before Tiki Oasis, now it the time to get started. Before I ask about possible themes, I want to ask the hard questions; Is this tradition worth carrying on? What can we do to attract more participants?

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tikiskip
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Posted: 2017-03-16 2:27 pm   Permalink

It's cool you put so much time into this Mike.

"sometimes a theme just doesn't appeal to individuals who would normally participate"

This has been my reason for not doing it in past years.
Still have a space theme light I want to make and never did, but then I never signed on for that one as well.

"1) Overall Tiki Central traffic is way down as far as I can tell. Probably too many years of infighting (TC as a whole, not this group) at a time when Facebook was on the rise."

The heck you say, you just hit one million hits! and Wendy gets like Ten thousand a day.
It's can't be that.

Good luck!
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MaukaHale
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Posted: 2017-03-16 3:03 pm   Permalink

Hi Mike,

I would participate in a swap. I missed the last two because of other time commitments. I don't see the popularity of this site returning since so many members have gone on to other groups in Facebook. My suggestion would be to post in the Facebook groups the idea of an art swap to get more participants.

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ErichTroudt
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Posted: 2017-03-16 8:32 pm   Permalink

just last week I thought "man we haven't had a swap in awhile, I should ask MDM" but then I kinda forgot.

I'd be in, if, like you said in #3, the theme is something I dig.

Either way you're a good dude for setting them up and taking care of it all.

Maybe instead swapping, MDM picks a theme he loves and we all make something for him?







 
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hang10tiki
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Posted: 2017-03-16 9:50 pm   Permalink



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danlovestikis
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Posted: 2017-03-17 08:23 am   Permalink


I can't resist a good swap. Here's my theme suggestion.

I think everyone has a tiki or a South Pacific item in their collection that is there favorite. There is something that makes it special.
How about each person creates something based on their personal favorite. Show a photo of what you have and what you make.

Ok everyone now what's your idea for the swap.

Cheers, Wendy
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MadDogMike
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From: The Anvil of the Sun
Posted: 2017-03-17 11:02 pm   Permalink

Quote:

On 2017-03-16 20:32, ErichTroudt wrote:
...Maybe instead swapping, MDM picks a theme he loves and we all make something for him?


No, we're not doing that. That's why I like the "swap" part of an Art Swap - something LEAVES the house to make room for something new

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On 2017-03-16 15:03, MaukaHale wrote:
My suggestion would be to post in the Facebook groups the idea of an art swap to get more participants.


I think I have done that before but it is definitely worth doing again. I also send out a group email to almost everyone who has ever participated before

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On 2017-03-16 21:50, hang10tiki wrote:
I'm down


Quote:

On 2017-03-17 08:23, danlovestikis wrote:
I can't resist a good swap...


Jon and Wendy, I appreciate that. You have both participated in every Swap since you have been around TC

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On 2017-03-17 08:23, danlovestikis wrote:
I think everyone has a tiki or a South Pacific item in their collection that is there favorite. There is something that makes it special.
How about each person creates something based on their personal favorite. Show a photo of what you have and what you make.


I like the concept of a more unified theme but that's just me. There's no reason to stick to a rigid theme, especially if it keeps people from participating. I like your idea Wendy. Anyone else?


 
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ErichTroudt
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Posted: 2017-03-18 12:37 am   Permalink

I'm all about the classics... menus, matchbooks, actual tiki stuff. We start doing seasons and animals and astrological signs etc I get turned off real quick.

Just thinking out loud...not suggesting anything....but In the few swaps I've been in, I always wished I knew what the person wanted before I started. I could make a wood carving for inside the house and really they wanted a sign the went out by the pool...somebody makes me a lamp and I wish it was an ashtray for cigars... I'm always self conscious I'm giving somebody something they could care less about. anybody feel like that?

I'm done being a sissy and discussing my feelings... MDM, pick a topic..we trust you lol







 
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MadDogMike
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Posted: 2017-03-18 03:08 am   Permalink

"I'm done being a sissy and discussing my feelings" You crack me up Erich! I hope to meet you one of these days

I get what you're saying about "classic" Tiki themes. We all have limited time, resources, and inspiration - there's nothing wrong with wanting to spend those resources on a project that you really enjoy doing. I didn't participate in the "Ladies of Tiki Swap" - not because I couldn't find inspiration, but because I was afraid of what I might receive and whether or not I could display it in public. In general, the "pot luck" nature of the swap adds to the fun for me. Over the years I have received some "Whoa! This is AWESOME!!!!" and also a few "Hmmm, what am I going to do with this?" But I still have them all and they make me smile when I find one stashed away. I'm sure some of the "art" I sent out fit into the "Hmmm, what am I going to do with this?" category

As far as picking a person in advance and personalizing the project to them, that opens a whole 'nother can of worms. Under the current structure, we often have several people at the beginning who express interest and intend to participate, but then it doesn't work out. With the names drawn at the end, there is no harm if someone drops out. But if you draw names at first and customize your art to that person then they drop out and don't reciprocate, someone will be hurt. I'm not saying we can't do it, just that there is much more risk involved.

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hang10tiki
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Posted: 2017-03-18 06:50 am   Permalink


From Erich:

I'm all about the classics... menus, matchbooks, actual tiki stuff.
We start doing seasons and animals and astrological signs etc
I get turned off real quick.


From me:

I agree



Ps- Mike, the pieces I have from you are in the AWESOME category!!!!!!!!!
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tikiskip
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Posted: 2017-03-18 07:06 am   Permalink

Well if you have a "Ladies of Tiki Swap" that is fine for a person who works with paint or clay or even carves.

But try making a Ladies of Tiki light.
I can do other types of art medium but it's going to be some piece of crap you won't want
and I don't want to send somebody some pile of tiki turd just to fit a weird theme so this may keep some from joining.



 
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hang10tiki
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Posted: 2017-03-18 9:01 pm   Permalink

Maybe it's time to can the theme idea
And just say make something tiki-ish


 
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ErichTroudt
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Posted: 2017-03-19 12:29 am   Permalink

Its the "ish" part that scares me.. lol



 
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ErichTroudt
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Posted: 2017-03-19 12:44 am   Permalink

Hey, I just read that Steven Crane was born in 1917...that makes it his 100th....so what if we did a steven crane theme?

Lots of restaurants, mugs, matchbooks, menus and images available to get motivation from. Its old school tiki. Kinda covers everyones talents.. skip recreates a lamp thats seen in a pic, wendy creates a new steven crane mug that never existed that should have... just examples of course.

Its a theme, but it gives plenty of creative room....

Huh?





 
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danlovestikis
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Posted: 2017-03-19 08:47 am   Permalink


ErichTroudt Ha Ha a shouldhavebeen. It's flattering that you know that's how this all started for me. I love these swaps no matter how busy I am I'm IN! Wendy
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