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Tools Carvers Use
chrisgreenup
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Joined: Apr 06, 2006
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From: Encinitas California
Posted: 2006-04-06 10:20 am   Permalink

I'm new to the list and looking to get set up with tools I have about $1000 and want to get set up with power carving stuff and what ever knives and chisels attatchments that would go along with the power tools.
Any suggestions?
I have the fever and have not carved for many years! nothing significant. I love all the posts and pictures on this sight and I am ready to go, just want some direction as to the best bang for my buck$$$ on tools!!
Foredom
Electric chain saw
arbortech chisel
And the what ever hand chisels gouges attatchments without going past my $1000 mark>
I know this may be hard but I figured I should ask the experts here!!!
Thaks
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tikigap
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Joined: Jan 19, 2006
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From: Arlingtron Virginia
Posted: 2006-04-06 11:54 am   Permalink

Welcome to the forum Chris -

I'm new to carving too, but I've just invested in the same stuff you want. You seem to have the list down (foredom, arbortech, etc.). I got some "FlexCut" power chisels and hand chisels. They are the best overall, I'd say. I just bought a foredom SR 5240 (maybe its a 5420) model and it's nice. I bought most of my stuff from Smokey Mountain Woodcarvers - they had the best prices and free shipping on orders more that 150 bucks. They are on the web at
http://www.woodcarvers.com

Good luck, and welcome to the forum again!

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chrisgreenup
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From: Encinitas California
Posted: 2006-04-07 08:14 am   Permalink

Hey Tikigap,
Thanks for reply.
I guess I just need to figure out what chisels and gouge sizes to get and what works best!
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tikigap
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Posted: 2006-04-07 08:16 am   Permalink

Get one of each ! , and be sure to sign up for the next Coon Tiki - whenever that is! That helped me a lot.
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Benzart
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From: Port Saint Lucie, Florida
Posted: 2006-04-07 09:43 am   Permalink

Hey CHrisgreenup, Good luck finding the best tools. You can get a couple Flexcut sets and you won't go wrong . I recomend the"Big Mallet sculpture set, normally $125, but
Here , Just go to the Flexcut link and look for that set. The "MC150 6 piece, 10 inch MAllet tools" for $123.98 would be great too. Also the FR311 combo set is a Bargain here, $25 off. Don't forget their flexcut tools for the Recip carver that goes with your Foredom you are going to get too. Save money for a chainsaw and angle grinder too.
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chrisgreenup
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From: Encinitas California
Posted: 2006-04-07 3:42 pm   Permalink

Thanks again!!
After reading so many of Bens great posts I am now a recipient of the masters reply with more valuable info. I look forward to creating a real tiki soon. I am tracking down some palm wood and soon will be putting together my tool list.
Can't wait to start carving.
CG


 
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tikigap
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From: Arlingtron Virginia
Posted: 2006-04-08 12:32 pm   Permalink

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On 2006-04-05 20:44, Benzart wrote:
Well, we know a few things can blow up either handpiece. Neither will run iin reverse and will literally BLOW UP so if you had a reversing flexshaft,thet is posibility #1.



I think I f&%@ed up. I probably had the thing in reverse, (after all I said about having OCD). The people at Smokey Mountain Woodcarvers are great - they replaced the hand piece without hassle, and got a new one to me in 3 days. They also included a postage-paid box to return the broken one.

I just today realized that the power switch should be pushed down on THE LEFT to go forward. My eyesight ain't what it used to be, and I have been running it in reverse. My bad. My dumb.
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keigs20
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From: WA
Posted: 2006-04-15 8:07 pm   Permalink

Hey Benzart or someone who might know, I gots a question. I bought a 12" GB Titanium Chain Saw Carving Bar it has a quarter tip with no sprocket and two 12" FORESTER pro semi-chisel carving chain. 3/8ex pitch - .050 gauge. I bought them because I can use it on my makita 5012b and not have to change the sprocket on my chainsaw. I could have bought the same bar with a sprocket in it for the same price as the first bar but would have had to buy 1/4 pitch chains and a new sprocket for my saw. So I guess my question is will the bar with out the sprocket ware out really fast compared to the one with a sprocket and is a 1/4 inch pitch better to carve with than a 3/8? I know this sounds like one of those middle school math questions but the bars were cheap and I had to make a fast decision just wondering if I made the right one. I cant wait to try them out because I have always carved with a normal sized bar and have had some difficulties in tight places. Thought I would ask and maybe some of this info could be useful to others

 
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Benzart
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Posted: 2006-04-16 07:18 am   Permalink

Keigs, Great question.
A "Hardnose bar will, or Should last as long as a sproketed bar as long as you pay attention to a few things. Plunge cuts are the worst thing for any bar as it puts direct pressure on the tip. Keep the plunge cuts to a minimum or do them slowly. Gutting with the Top of the bar also puts extra pressure on the tip of the bar, so again keep to a minimum. Physically inspect the bar often to make sure the oiler holes are clear and the crud is removed from the bottom or the chain track. Also make sure the tip or other surface areas where the chain rests on the bar are kept filed flat. As you carve, the chain wears these surfaces and they may get rounded, keep them filed flat. If you don't, you will see the tip begin to separate, or start to be peeled back like a banana,so just look for all these things on a regular inspection. The carving bars are expensive and need to be properly cared for to get the longest life from them.

What is the difference in 3/8 and 1/4 pitch chain?? Another Very good question because many peeps do not know! It is the sama as ANY saw. Say if you use an old fasioned Hand saw, say a Cross-cut saw , with large teeth and an aggressive set to it. That saw is perfect for Cross-cuts, cutting Fast across the grain, but it leaves a rough edge, Not smoothe at all. Now, Pick up a Finer tooth saw that has smaller teeth and More teeth per inch and make the Same cut. You have to work a little harder to cut the same board, but it finishes with barely Any chips or rough edges. It is a very smoothe cut.
That is the same with the 1/4 pitch chain: Smaller teeth so you get a Much Smoother finish and you can actually carve More detail without risking large chunks tearing out. So if you want a very smoothe carving experience, go for the 1/4 pitch chainand then you can go down to the dime sized tip bar where you can really do some fine detail..
Keigs, I hope this helps and as always, just Ask and I'll be there!
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keigs20
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Posted: 2006-04-18 11:06 pm   Permalink

Thanks Benz I knew you would have the answer and very good one. I should have bought both bars they were only $25.00 each and he would have combined shipping. I will post pics of the makita set up when I get the bar and chain.
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Benzart
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From: Port Saint Lucie, Florida
Posted: 2006-04-19 05:25 am   Permalink

Thanks Keigs. Thats darned Cheap for the bars, where are you getting them?

 
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chrisgreenup
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From: Encinitas California
Posted: 2006-04-25 08:25 am   Permalink

Well I made some significant tool purchasing after doing as much research as I could on the TC and help from you all. I think I should have a good amount of start up tools and I am itching to put these tools to good use.
I will post pics of the tool gathering when they arrive.
NOTE I found a place that has great prices on Flexcut tools and Dennis who runs the store is really a nice guy!!
www.cybercarving.com
Check it out.
CG


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Bay Park Buzzy
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Posted: 2006-05-29 11:44 pm   Permalink

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tikigap
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From: Arlingtron Virginia
Posted: 2006-06-01 5:56 pm   Permalink

Hey! I got a question about cleaning Typhoon Burs - is it ok to clean them out by burning them with a torch? I thought I read that somewhere here, but I couldn't find it.

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Benzart
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Posted: 2006-06-02 10:08 am   Permalink

Yes, Heat them up and brush out the goo with a wire brush. Just don't heat it to glowing red hot and you will be OK.
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