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TorchGuy
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Joined: Apr 24, 2008
Posts: 241
From: Renton, WA
Posted: 2008-05-10 05:53 am   Permalink

Figured I might as well put this in here... My find was my FIRST find, besides torches - my first mug! I live in WA state, and found this in a little shop in a Seattle suburb. It's not really tiki per se, but it IS a cocktail mug.

Sorry, can't post a photo (yet) but... It's a cylindrical mug, about 7" by 2 1/2", showing a Chinese or Tibetan man, maybe a monk? with a white, bearded face, arched eyebrows and a long beard, and white shoes. He's wearing long brown robes, with a vertical sash in front with a pattern of X's, is holding a walking staff in one hand and what looks like a coconut in the other, and has black dot eyes. On the back, among the ties and folds of his robe, is written "Four Seas Seattle". Now that I search, I see Dogbytes has posted photos of one of these (front and back) elsewhere in this thread.

I thought surely this must be an extremely common mug, with whatever restaurant that bought it having their name added,. but... on the concave bottom (white) is written "Exclusively for Four Seas, Seattle". There's also a gold quatrefoil-shaped sticker reading:
M
O -o- C
JAPAN

I picked this up for five dollars from a shop owner I'm acquainted with... She says she thinks she has another mug somewhere, and will look for it for me. I passed this by my mother, and she says the Four Seas was (and may still be) a Chinese restaurant in Seattle's "International District" aka Chinatown, so I may be paying them a visit. If they don't use these any more, I'll ask if they still have any lying around. I'm curious as to whether this mug could be called uncommon, or even rare, though I have absolutely no intent on selling it. If the Four Seas has more of them and I can get them, I'll offer mugs in trade for torches.

Anyone want to guess at what sort of drink might have come in this wise old monk? I'm curious. Whatever it was, it was big - drink a few of these and you'll feel wise, too.

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bigbrotiki
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Joined: Mar 25, 2002
Posts: 11589
From: Tiki Island, above the Silverlake
Posted: 2008-05-10 11:58 am   Permalink

Aha, you're hooked! After you have shown such a refined taste in Tiki torch fuels as can only be compared to a wine connoisseur, your Tiki mug sense and Polynesian potion taste will quickly develop, I am sure! These Otagiri mugs are indeed NOT Tiki mugs, but some folks here collect them nevertheless and might even know what was served in them.

 
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TorchGuy
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Joined: Apr 24, 2008
Posts: 241
From: Renton, WA
Posted: 2008-05-10 1:12 pm   Permalink

If I DO ever drink out of this... Otagiri, is that the term for this wise monk? It'll probably be a sake cocktail of some sort. I like him, and he's kind of cool with his Seattle connection. I'll have to hit Four Seas, if it still exists, and see what sort of cocktails they serve.

 
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Koolau
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Joined: Sep 23, 2006
Posts: 323
From: Oahu, Hawaii
Posted: 2008-05-10 1:17 pm   Permalink

Is this your mug?





(Photos from Ooga-Mooga)


 
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TorchGuy
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Joined: Apr 24, 2008
Posts: 241
From: Renton, WA
Posted: 2008-05-10 7:31 pm   Permalink

That's him, Officer! Not Tiki, I do understand, but cool nonetheless. Anyone have a guess as to what sort of potions might have been served inside this guy?

 
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Koolau
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Joined: Sep 23, 2006
Posts: 323
From: Oahu, Hawaii
Posted: 2008-05-10 10:38 pm   Permalink

I'm lacking in Pacific Northwest tiki knowledge, but that mug seems pretty rare. There's only one listed on Ooga Mooga, and I don't ever recall seeing it while trolling through eBay. As per the writing on the bottom, it may have been manufactured exclusively for Four Seas by Otagiri, which would make it even more precious.

By the way, Otagiri is the name of the manufacturer of that mug - Otagiri Mercantile Company (OMC). Try not to wash off that gold label - they're tough, but they will wrinkle and come off.

Maybe some of the Pacific Northwest TC members can fill in more info about the Four Seas. It is mentioned in a couple of threads here on TC, but not much detail was provided. Use the Search function to find out more.

A drink menu would help you know if there was a specific drink associated with that mug; if not, start with your favorite tiki cocktail and you're on your way.

Congrats on a very nice find!



 
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TorchGuy
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Joined: Apr 24, 2008
Posts: 241
From: Renton, WA
Posted: 2008-05-11 04:00 am   Permalink

Thanks, Koolau! I just did some research - fourseasrestaurant.com is their web site, and it has a snapshot of their bar, the Dynasty Room. Yelp has about 12 reviews - they range from bad to mediocre, though more than one mentions incredible orange chicken and ridiculously cheap, potent drinks (one mentions a very strong $3 rum and coke, another a Long Island Iced Tea). So it looks like I'm gonna pay 'em a visit - I adore old 50s-60s Chinese restaurant decor and I love dimly-lit rooms in restaurants, and one reviewer says it's exactly that. Another calls the decor "the Chinese restaurant that time forgot".

Here's hoping they still serve drinks in mugs, or at least remember doing so. If I'm lucky, they'll have some mugs poking around in the back. If I DO get some, as noted above, if anyone on here actually wants them I will (a) trade for Tiki Torches, (b) sell them cheap - I'm not looking to make a profit, or (c) trade for other mugs - whatever someone deems equal in value to these. I just want to add a few more torches or mugs to my collection.

Oh, and Koolau, I love that label. I do try to keep them intact on anything I collect, ranging from pipes to old lava lamps - even if it doesn't add to the value, it adds slightly to the 'all-original factor'. Anyone want to suggest a drink recipe for me to (eventually) mix up in him? As he appears to be a wise old Chinese monk, I'm sure it needs to be related in some small way - he's also holding what appears to be a coconut!


 
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Tipsy McStagger
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Joined: Nov 21, 2004
Posts: 3673
From: HELL
Posted: 2008-05-11 09:02 am   Permalink






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bigbrotiki
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Joined: Mar 25, 2002
Posts: 11589
From: Tiki Island, above the Silverlake
Posted: 2008-05-11 09:21 am   Permalink

Holy Moly, it's the sacred idol, one of the principal Tiki icons of the mid-century, the De Young Museum/Trader Vic/Kona Kai/Sam's Seafood logo Tiki ! The flash makes it reflect so much that I can't tell if it's a half carving mounted on the orange background, or if it's a Vacu-form plastic one-piece. Indeed worthy of a shrine of its own.

It looks brand spanking new ! What's the intel on it?


 
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Tipsy McStagger
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Joined: Nov 21, 2004
Posts: 3673
From: HELL
Posted: 2008-05-11 10:17 am   Permalink

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On 2008-05-11 09:21, bigbrotiki wrote:
Holy Moly, it's the sacred idol, one of the principal Tiki icons of the mid-century, the De Young Museum/Trader Vic/Kona Kai/Sam's Seafood logo Tiki ! The flash makes it reflect so much that I can't tell if it's a half carving mounted on the orange background, or if it's a Vacu-form plastic one-piece. Indeed worthy of a shrine of its own.

It looks brand spanking new ! What's the intel on it?




it's vintage....but in pristine shape....it's a half vacuum form piece, entirely hollow, and made of all plastic, including the frame..has original richter sculpture sticker label on the back......I believe there were 2 styles.....this one (my fav) and a marquesan style one......i've seen both here on tiki central a longtime ago and patiently waited for the day when one would cross my path......I picked it up for a song on ebay a couple weeks back....


 
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bigbrotiki
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Joined: Mar 25, 2002
Posts: 11589
From: Tiki Island, above the Silverlake
Posted: 2008-05-11 10:45 am   Permalink

Cool, congrats! "Richter Sculpture"? Never heard about it....where were they located? That name sounds German to me...

P.S.: Could you get a pic of the sticker?

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8FT Tiki
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Joined: Nov 30, 2003
Posts: 1400
From: Kansas City, MO
Posted: 2008-05-11 10:46 am   Permalink

Nice find Tipsy. Similar style body but different head than these statues I have. They're 14" tall.(No markings on them). There were also wall plaques of this style. My buddy Silverline would love to find a pair of those so if anyone can help him out on that, PLEASE contact him. Thanks


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dogbytes
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Joined: Mar 24, 2002
Posts: 2244
From: seattle, wa
Posted: 2008-05-11 11:08 am   Permalink

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On 2008-05-11 04:00, TorchGuy wrote:
Here's hoping they still serve drinks in mugs, or at least remember doing so.



they don't. the manager remembers drinking there when he was underage (he's about 50 now) ~ but it was just a bar. they also had marked 3 face bucket mug
see sabu's post

and the decor isnt great (definitely NOT tiki/polynesian or even fancy chinese), there are much better places to eat in the ID..


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Kabuddhabuddha
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Joined: Jun 20, 2007
Posts: 41
From: Sunny Southwest Florida
Posted: 2008-05-11 11:49 am   Permalink

Found these a few weeks ago, there was three of them but sent one to Uncle Trav.
No markings on the bottom but they do have the OMC Japan sticker on all of them, in great condition.
Uncle Trav, hope you can see the fence I am working on in the background.




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Mo-Eye
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Joined: May 17, 2006
Posts: 646
From: Taboo Island, USA
Posted: 2008-05-11 1:03 pm   Permalink

Got to love Craigslist!

I found a local ad for a large collection of matchbooks and match covers, and best of all the owner just wanted to give them away to a good home. I went to pick them up, hoping for maybe a couple cool, older Hawaiian or tiki covers.

It was the motherload! The guy came out with about 10 boxes of matchbooks, and 6 of those old green binders of match covers. Once I started going through them, it turns out most were from southern CA and from the 60s and 70s. I've pulled 100+ tiki and tropical matches from this collection. Now I've just got to get rid of all of these non tiki matches!

All of these matches have inspired me to spend the day doing some research on these places (at least as much as I can do on my laptop from the couch). I'll post any new info I may find.

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