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Teadoir
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Joined: Dec 04, 2013
Posts: 65
From: Oregon
Posted: 2015-05-03 6:45 pm   Permalink

Picked up this tapa yesterday, and it's huge. It's a little strange though. The imagery seems Western. I don't know much about tapa cloth. Can any body fill me in on what I have here? Trying to convince the little lady to let me keep it. The woman at the estate sale suggested cutting it up and selling some of it and keeping the rest of it for myself, but that makes me cringe a bit.






These look like eagles and lions to me, maybe a crown? I dunno...



This looks like a crest or seal but I don't recognize it. The trees, sun and moon and star seem like odd imagery too.



Also not sure what to make of the birds and numbers going up the sides...









 
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Bay Park Buzzy
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Joined: Apr 07, 2006
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From: West Bay Park, San Diego, CA
Posted: 2015-05-03 8:10 pm   Permalink

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On 2015-05-03 18:45, Teadoir wrote:
Picked up this tapa yesterday, and it's huge. It's a little strange though. The imagery seems Western. I don't know much about tapa cloth. Can any body fill me in on what I have here?



You have a Tongan Ngatu. You can tell because the crest on it is the official seal of Tonga.

The pine trees are Holo Paini, the motif representing the Norfolk Pines that line the street to the Royal Palace.

The Bird is Ikale Tahi, the Sea Eagle, the Tongan national bird.

the Lion is synomymous with the King of Tonga.

I don't know what the pokey looking thing under the bird is. It's common, but I don't know what it's supposed to represent.

Buzzy Out!
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naugatiki
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Joined: Jan 02, 2004
Posts: 870
From: Port Angeles, Wa
Posted: 2015-05-04 05:54 am   Permalink

Found a tiki mask with a little information about it on the back, it's from Fatu Hiva




Tiki Eyes?


 
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hang10tiki
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Joined: Jul 18, 2010
Posts: 7306
From: Las Vegas
Posted: 2015-05-04 07:34 am   Permalink

I looked up Buzzy on Wikipedia

"Famous Tiki Man full of information"


 
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Teadoir
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Joined: Dec 04, 2013
Posts: 65
From: Oregon
Posted: 2015-05-04 09:13 am   Permalink

Thanks Buz! I knew someone amongst the big brains here would be able to tell me something! My next question though, is what would something like this have been intended for? Cream, was it made his tourist peace, where they going to cut it up and make skirts and of it, what?



And Nauga, that's awesome! Looks like you found a tiki chibi. *grin*


 
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Rob Roy
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Joined: Dec 03, 2004
Posts: 365
From: Ventura, CA
Posted: 2015-05-04 3:59 pm   Permalink

I have one of these but mine is still filled with booze. There is a post somewhere on here about those things.

Rob

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Pretty exciting finding something here in Aus. that isn't maori tourist stuff. Found at an antique store in Queensland when i went up there for a few days to visit friends. Appears to be a hobbyist's version as there are no markings at all.






 
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tikidon
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Joined: Oct 06, 2003
Posts: 49
From: Portland OR
Posted: 2015-05-04 6:41 pm   Permalink

Saw this cool Koa wood and resin coffee table at an antique store in Petaluma Ca, and only five thousand dollars, yikes!


 
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Bay Park Buzzy
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Joined: Apr 07, 2006
Posts: 3030
From: West Bay Park, San Diego, CA
Posted: 2015-05-05 2:11 pm   Permalink

I didn't find any tapa this week. Still a little soon to call it a drought, but I'm worried nonetheless...


I hadn't gone to Goodwill in months, but when I went by the other day, the voice in my head said to go. Spider sense tingling, I found this crappy Indonesian tiki on the shelf full of baskets.

It was either the tiki, or the 3 pair of work shorts I bought that made my spider sense go like that. Still can't tell which was the trigger...

Polyart unmarked Schirman piece.

I have two like this: one marked poly art, and the other not marked. This one is slightly larger than those two.

Auction catalog:


Some of the listings are credited "From the collection of a gentleman"

Samoan outrigger:



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On 2015-05-04 09:13, Teadoir wrote:
Thanks Buz! I knew someone amongst the big brains here would be able to tell me something! My next question though, is what would something like this have been intended for? Cream, was it made his tourist peace, where they going to cut it up and make skirts and of it, what?


Just some ramblings about tapa off the top of my head:
Tapa didn't work well for clothes because moisture would separate the layers. They would have used it as decoration and hung it up. They're often made for wedding and funerals. Some were packed away that had important historical value, like "the King gave this piece to Grandpa..."
Tapa is really labor intensive, so it has a value to them for that reason. The larger the piece, the more the value. Most tapa is sectioned out in predetermined sizes. Your piece is cool because it has both edges. That was the standard layout, two white borders, Design up middle, numbered up the edge. All these are standard sizes. That's why we get so many pieces that have a 15 foot dimension in them. The numbers mark how big the piece is. Larger piece= more numbers=more value. Your piece, based on it's size would have a special name attributed it. Like half sheet, full sheet, quarter share, based on how many numbers.
Plus, there is this whole cultural thing going on so far as the value. If you got no tapa on Tonga, you're poor. Rich people got a lot of tapa. When an important guest would come over, you would slice off a slab of your big tapa and give it to your guest to show how rich you are. Kind of like the Native American potlatch give away deal.
Yours is pretty standard with nothing real unique about it, so I'd cut it up and do stuff with the pieces. Unless you want a whole wall of your house done in tapa. I've paid between $15-35 for pieces like that, about that size. I'd cut it as needed, though.
After WWII, they added a few motifs of planes and stuff. I'd like a piece of tapa with a P-38 on it. They're out there somewhere... There's also a Hailey's Comet one I'd like to get some day.

Buzzy Out!






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tikicoma
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Joined: Jan 16, 2010
Posts: 720
From: wakinekona
Posted: 2015-05-05 11:15 pm   Permalink

Found a couple things last weekend.



Looks like Witco, 2 feet tall but no marks.

And six of these mugs.


They're not tiki but I like them. Couldn't find them on Ooga-Mooga, no marks or stickers, anyone know anything about them?

aloha, tikicoma





 
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lancelink
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Joined: Jun 10, 2012
Posts: 26
Posted: 2015-05-08 2:57 pm   Permalink



Found this on top of my wife's car.


 
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exquisitecorpse
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Joined: Feb 26, 2009
Posts: 309
From: philadelphia
Posted: 2015-05-08 5:04 pm   Permalink

Last week's finds





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Biotron2000
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Joined: Apr 13, 2002
Posts: 383
From: Bakersfield, California
Posted: 2015-05-09 07:02 am   Permalink

Nothing too spectacular, but a friend got this for me at an estate sale. She knows I'm into Tiki but didn't realize I had actually been to The Tonga Room. Wish I had bought souvenirs, now.






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CongoPete
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Joined: Jan 23, 2015
Posts: 29
From: AZ
Posted: 2015-05-09 07:38 am   Permalink

Picked up a Trader Vic's Fog Cutter Speckled Mug

Is there anyway to tell how old it actually is besides the 1963 date on the bottom ?



 
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hang10tiki
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Joined: Jul 18, 2010
Posts: 7306
From: Las Vegas
Posted: 2015-05-09 7:20 pm   Permalink

Kool finds all

I'm On a dry spell....

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uncle trav
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Joined: Apr 27, 2005
Posts: 2255
From: Kalamazoo
Posted: 2015-05-10 04:23 am   Permalink

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On 2015-05-09 07:38, CongoPete wrote:
Picked up a Trader Vic's Fog Cutter Speckled Mug

Is there anyway to tell how old it actually is besides the 1963 date on the bottom ?




The 1963 date is the date the mold was made. The mug was most likely made in a number of runs over the years. My thought is that the lack of detail in your mug may mean it is a late production as the molds tended to wear out with continued production. I think pining down an actual date beyond 1963 may be difficult. Nice find though.
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