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Conga....Wisconsin stuff!
surfintiki
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From: S. Chatham, MA
Posted: 2011-04-18 09:56 am   Permalink

Wow! Nice nice work! I don't think I'll ever get to doing a face.
Big Northern basswood huh? Ooo, what's next?


 
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TheBigT
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From: Fabulous Houston
Posted: 2011-04-18 12:03 pm   Permalink

Quote:

On 2011-04-15 20:40, congatiki wrote:
Greetings Poobah, Amate and McTiki, appreciate your nice compliments about the latest carve.
No problem sharing my techniques Amate...pretty simple...time consuming...but generally produces
nice results.
A venerable carver, someone named Ben, has posted about staining, sanding, staining, sanding, and
so forth. His stuff always turns out pretty nice so I have started putting a little more effort
into the staining process.

On this carving I started with a coat of a stain called "special walnut"...which was a little more
brown than a typical walnut stain. I sanded off as much of the stain as I could without going crazy,
leaving some dark crevices (such as the deep carved areas around the nose...eyes...etc.) Then a
second coat of the same stain...repeated stain seems to show more grain and create a little
translucence to the whole thing...excuse my explanation...have had a few cocktails tonight.)
After sanding off the stain a second time I switched to "walnut" stain which is quite a bit darker
than the special walnut. That gave me the general color that I wanted...along with some nice
grain and the darker accents around the eyes and facial features. Then...three coats of
tung oil...each one giving the carving a little more character. Tung oil gives the project a nice
"glow" without being shiney.


The stain/sand/stain/sand/stain process gives the finished produce a "glassy" look that is
pretty cool in real life...a little hard to capture in a photograph. There is a depth that I have
not been able to achieve with a single coat of stain. Basswood is wonderful to carve but can be
a bit blotchy if you don't take the time to finish it properly. But...as Jackie Mason would say...
I don't know.

At any rate...I appreciate all positive comments...they keep me going when I wonder what it all
means.



Fantastic piece of art, Conga! Killer job. I love it. I also find our staining method interesting. I see your pics where you have sanded after a coat of stain but left places where the stain is still fairly untouched. How long are you waiting between coats for the stain to dry (or how long is it taking, rather)? You can actually stain right over an existing coat of stain. The linseed oil will finally cure, but the wait may be a while. Are you finding it slow to dry when you coat over the patches with a lot of the pre-existing stain still left? I'm assuming you're using oil based stain?




 
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congatiki
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From: wisconsin northwoods
Posted: 2011-04-18 2:52 pm   Permalink

Many thanks Seeksurf, Surfintiki and BigT, you guys do great work
and I really appreciate your comments.
As for the staining steps, I have found that work-and-work/hobby
things are taking more of my time so I can usually wait a couple of
days for stain to completely dry before I re-sand. I'm not an expert
on this...but it seems the second and third stain dries more
uniformly than the first coat. While the color of the stain is
removed...I am sure something stabilizes the wood....minimizing
the blotchiness that I often experience in a single-stain effort.
I don't sweat the darker crevices or moderately different shades...
I see them when I look in the mirror too
I would have a difficult time with the committment to re-sand a
large project but a mask-size piece can be sanded in a fairly short
time...once the previous coat has completely dried...again 2-3
days before I get back to it...the piece can be sanded in around an
hour....
At any rate....sorry for the lengthy diatribe...I appreciate your
interest.


 
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TheBigT
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From: Fabulous Houston
Posted: 2011-04-19 8:04 pm   Permalink

Quote:

....sorry for the lengthy diatribe...



Not at all. We might as well trade some useful knowledge every once in a while in between all the 'at a boys.

It sounds like you're creating your own "wood conditioner" method by sanding away most of the stain, leaving some in. You're right I don't think I'd want to use that method on a large piece. I can just imagine the pile of sandpaper it would take...


 
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congatiki
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From: wisconsin northwoods
Posted: 2011-04-20 7:25 pm   Permalink

That would take too much sandpaper and sanding Big T.
Meanwhile...we are back at it again....this is a "ridicule mask" that will eventually
become a companion to the recently finished feller.
These pics are following the first re-sanding process...which only took around 25 minutes...


I realize that the "ridicule mask" concept is not tiki...but since it will be part of a
piece with another carving that might be more tiki...well...you know...


 
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seeksurf
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Posted: 2011-05-05 7:36 pm   Permalink

No, I think you are the expert stain man myself.

 
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congatiki
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From: wisconsin northwoods
Posted: 2011-05-06 03:54 am   Permalink

Thanks for the little "bump" Mr. Seeks.
I've been making a little progress on this fella, whatever he may be. I guess that's
open to interpretation


It's mahogany stain on one side....oak on the other...with a few splashes of
pigment thrown in for good measure. Loosely based on NW Pacific Coast "ridicule mask"
which I can explain at a later date.
Again Seeks, and everyone, thanks for peering into this little spot amid the
great carvers of TC.


 
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McTiki
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From: Sunny Florida
Posted: 2011-05-06 12:18 pm   Permalink

Conga, the grain you have sanded is just popping. I love this concept of two in one. beautiful piece sir.

Thank you for sharing.

Mahalo


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amate
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Posted: 2011-05-08 11:39 am   Permalink

You have a nack for capturing the primitive even with the satin finish. That primitive spirit is why I enjoy your work. Keep em' coming!

 
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finkdaddy
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Posted: 2011-05-15 06:54 am   Permalink

Conga, those are looking amazing! I love the facial features on that last piece! You're style has really become pronounced and unique. I can't wait to see more!

ps, what's going on with our weather?!?!
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congatiki
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From: wisconsin northwoods
Posted: 2011-05-30 3:34 pm   Permalink

Many thanks McTiki, Amate, and my old friend Finkdaddy. Your kind words are always appreciated,
even when it takes me a month or so to respond
Well, what's new in the northwoods?
Well, the last two head-cases are up and surveying the Conga Lounge...and...I think..looking pretty
snazzy...


And...I have been thinking while I wait for big chunks of basswood, what can I do next?
Don't we all love these from our grandparents' and parents' living room?

The infamous "ducks on the wall" or were they "geese on the wall?"
This is Congas take on an old favorite, looks like cheap pine in the pics but it's really
made from nice black walnut


I know this is "tiki central" not "50s wall decor central" but I do plan on some touches
that will make these tiki-fied. I'm sure I will be accused of ripping of Witco or Bosko,
but how about changing my name to "Congo-tiki?"
Look for more fun from the northside of the cheddar curtain...see you soon!


 
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TheBigT
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Posted: 2011-05-31 12:16 pm   Permalink

I like those. Did you steam the wings to shape them? My grandparents had the pink flamingos on the wall. Man I hated those..


 
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amate
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Posted: 2011-06-02 3:38 pm   Permalink

yeah... how did you do those wings?

 
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tikigodz
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Posted: 2011-06-02 9:14 pm   Permalink

Yup wings r nice!

 
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congatiki
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From: wisconsin northwoods
Posted: 2011-06-03 03:46 am   Permalink

Hi guys....thanks for looking over here!
Here's a few more wings in progress pics...



Pretty simple procedure to shape the wings, just an angle grinder with a
sanding disc, and bearing down to create lots of dust. The black walnut
is pretty hard and chippy and the grinder disc works better than mutilating
the wood with chisels. Plan on doing some knife or dremel detail work
once i get the wings shaped and contoured.
It's fun and a nice diversion until I get some big basswood in the next couple
of weeks.
Thanks again.


 
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