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A-A… Some Stuff I'm Working On
Chongolio
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Posted: 2005-11-16 09:36 am   Permalink

Aloha A2,
Those pics are killer. It looks like you guys had a great time and you scored some pretty unique souveneirs. I bet the carvers don't get many visitors asking them for uncarved wood chunks. I bet you made a couple of good friends talkin story with them fellas and your interest in them. Great post thanks for sharing your adventures. Next time I want to go.

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sirginn
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Posted: 2005-11-16 09:53 am   Permalink

AA-
Great pics, when we were in Maui in July I met the first carver you posted pics of across from the banyan tree. We scored a large mask and I had him sign it, I will post pics and his name when I get home from work. He had some incredibly intricate carvings, he was also 4th generation tongan carver and had a 13 ft monster he, his father, uncles and brothers carved together for 3 months. (I'll post pics)
We are heading back to Napili point in January, can't wait.


 
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ManoKoa
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Posted: 2005-11-16 09:54 am   Permalink

Mahalo for sharing AA - -

I am planning a family trip for next year and am hoping to fit a similar adventure within the trip.

ALOHA


 
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MooneyTiki
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Posted: 2005-11-16 12:21 pm   Permalink

Aloha Aaron!!!!!!!
That lono is SWEET so SWEET i think I'm getting Cavities just looking at it . I love seeing your own individualities in your carvings Keep carving and having fun with it Aloha Your Friend Mooney


 
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sirginn
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Posted: 2005-11-16 5:34 pm   Permalink

AA-
Here are the phots of the first Tongan carver you posted, his name is Hia Lavaka.

the big tiki is one he carved with his family over a period of months, the intricate detail was amazing, and I loved how he worked with the natural shape of the wood and incorparated branches etc.. into the final peice.




the last image is a mask we picked up from him.





 
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Benzart
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Posted: 2005-11-16 8:34 pm   Permalink

Really nine vacation pix Fink. Makes me very jealous. Those Tongan carvers look to have micronesia carving background, I wonder if they would say if asked what Island they really come from??
What a vacation.
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Aaron's Akua
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Posted: 2005-11-17 1:01 pm   Permalink

Mahalo, my friends!

Alientiki: Which island are you on? We will probably return next year, not sure which island. Probably the big island or Kauai. It would be cool to look you up.

PCT: No pics up yet, but I will try to do it soon. The wood should have some mojo for me - coming from the islands and all. They will be for special tikis for my wife & son.

Spermy: Great pics! That looks like the open-air crafts market in Lahaina. I meant to stop by there, but didn't think dragging the whole family around looking at tikis all day would be wise! It was vacation after all. Those tikis in your picture are quite a bit different than the others that I saw, although the same basic style.

Palama, 5-0, 8 FT., Surfintiki & BK: I really enjoyed hanging out with the carvers for a short while. They are not used to tourists with much knowledge of tiki and carving, I could tell. It was a highlight of the trip for sure, and I think they also were pretty curious about the mainland carvers, tools, & other stuff we talked about.

BK & Raffertiki: Thanks for the comps. Well, I've posted about a zillion pics of this tiki from start to finish, so what's one or two more? BK, we're thinking alike. I'm doing a 3-tone stain job on this guy for an "ancient relic" sort of look. I hosed him down with ebony stain, even used a spray bottle to spray it into all of the cracks. Then I sanded it all down again so I could apply the next color. I have a few mores steps to go. Here's a sneak peak (I will do a little step-by-step on the finishing later):





Hewey: My son may be immune. After the 3rd or 4th stop he told me "no more tikis" (sternly)! He just wanted to go to the beach and play in the sand.

Chongo: Yeah, the first guy seemed a bit taken aback when I asked to buy a wood blank - not a common request. I forgot to mention, that "Hau" wood is also known as "Wild Hibiscus". It is hard as a rock, but should look pretty nice all sanded up.

Sirginn: Thanks for posting the great pics. Those particular carvers seemed like the most talented of the clan in my opinion. I saw a few similar pieces with the limbs incorporated into the piece like in your pictures.

Manokoa: Yes, definitely look these guys up. Any of the local carvers would spend some time talking with you I'm sure. Suggestion: If you have any decent mainland wood that is scarce in the islands, bring some along for a possible trade.

Mooney: Thank for the comps! Much appreciated!

Ben: I don't have that much knowledge of Tonga, but the style just looked cool to me. Tevita promised to carve me an authentic Tonga style tiki (not Hawaiian) if I let him know in advance before coming out next trip. I think that would be really cool.

Now I've gotta start thinking about the next carve.

Thanks for all the great comments!

Mahalo,

A-A

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Palama Tiki
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Posted: 2005-11-17 1:18 pm   Permalink

Man, Aaron, that's an incredible job... i'm liking the stain work! i would definitely be interested in the step by step stain tutorial.

 
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surfintiki
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Posted: 2005-11-17 2:38 pm   Permalink

Oooooooooooh AA, that looks like serious fun, playin with stains like that. That Lono is so cool.
I love those Tongan carvers stuff, and I'm wondering who might of carved this guy I bought 2 years ago (Lamo-ebay) from Hawaii. Maui, I think. But I notice resemblances to the styles you showed. Pretty contrasting colors in the wood too. Thought you'd want to see.


 
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surfintiki
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Posted: 2005-11-17 2:44 pm   Permalink



 
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Aaron's Akua
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Posted: 2005-11-20 10:27 pm   Permalink

Palama: I'll get the step-by-step together shortly. Be advised - there will be some "what not to do" stuff in there too. Stay posted!

Surfintiki: Thanks for posting your tiki. Nice piece! It definitely bears the mark of the Tongans. It's hard to tell, but I think the wood is "Hau" (Wild Hibiscus). It looks too dark to be Monkeypod. Next time we go back, maybe I can score you a small piece of that same wood.

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surfintiki
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Posted: 2005-11-21 11:57 am   Permalink

Not if I beat you there first my friend!
Wait, get me a piece too, then I can stop by on the way back and pick up another piece from you!!!


 
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ManoKoa
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Posted: 2005-11-21 12:42 pm   Permalink

The carvers for the site below are using that Tongan style as well.

They also have some pretty cool weapons on there.



http://www.tikimaster.com/c=kaxMlqZcFWs4x0UttoBakQSYX/



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Aaron's Akua
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Posted: 2005-11-21 3:33 pm   Permalink

Antique Staining & Finishing Step-By-Step

First I finished all of the sanding down to 60 grit. Unlike some of my previous tikis, this one did not want to be fine-sanded.



I dumped the idea of using tile for the eyes, and carved them out instead. The first mock-up for the staining didn’t turn out all that well, so I tried again and settled on my final stain combination. I was shooting for an aged, vintage sort of look. Benzart had given me some tips on one of his methods of using a dark stain then hitting the rough spots with sandpaper to age it up.

Here’s the final sample stain piece.



Step One: I started with a heavy coat of Ebony, so heavy it looked like I had dipped it in a big can of stain. I also used a plastic spray bottle to spray the stain into all of the cracks so the light wood would not show through.







Step Two: Once the stain had dried well, I sanded the whole thing back down with 60 grit. This is where I deviated a bit from how Ben did his finish on his big palm pieces. With Ficus wood, the contrast is a bit much between the light wood and dark stain. So instead of just roughing the high spots, I took it all down as much as I could for a second color coat. At this stage you can see every spot that you missed sanding. But with this approach, every missed spot is an asset, and helps with the antique look. The relief carving gets a torched look in all of the deep spots.







Step Three: A coat of "Provincial" for the torso, face, eyes, hair tie, and middle parts of the headpiece.







Step Four: A coat of "Red Mahogany" for the hair, mask, and uprights for the headpiece.







One minor setback was the "Liquid Rawhide Redwood" stain that I used for the pedestal. It turns out to be a tacky thick kind of stain that is meant to be used on fences and sets up without any wiping. I had tried it on a sample, but for some reason it came out all wrong on the piece – really orangey and thick. After I did the pedestal, I switched to the Red Mahogany for the headpiece.



The pedestal woyuld probably have looked okay, but after all of the work so far, I decided to do a little redo rather than settle. After all, this thing is going in my living room.

Sanded the base back down…



More Ebony stain…



More sanding, then a coat of Red Mahogany….



And what would have been Step Five Final lettering with the Provincial stain.



A while back, Ben gave me some advice on finishing, which I decided to take.

Quote:

On 2005-06-26 07:05, Benzart wrote:
I use that Deft lacquer too and it is a great finish. If you want a nice sealer that is quick drying and easily sanded, try using plain old shellack. they make some that is pretty clear and you can build up 3 or four coats in an hour and have a beautiful finish with it in no time. After it dries thoroughly (couple hours), then go with a couple coats of the deft for a glass smoothe finish.




Step Six: Four coats of shellac, one every 15 minutes.



Step Seven: Waited one hour, then applied three coats of lacquer, one every 30 minutes.



Ben’s finishing combination worked out great. I am so stoked! My old method was to
Brush on Spar Varnish, wait 48 hours between coats, sand with 220 to get out all of the brush marks and drips, then repeat the whole thing again for four more coats. This method worked twice as well and took just one afternoon without any sanding between coats.

I was just browsing through this post and noticed how many peeps offered up tips. Thanks for all the tips, especially to you Ben.

Here’s the
finished project if anyone wants a look-see.

Cheers,

A-A
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hewey
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Posted: 2005-11-22 04:47 am   Permalink

Thanks for the step by step. I cant that good anyway, but if I did, thats how i would stain my next piece. Awesome
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