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paranoid123
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From: New York City
Posted: 2005-04-26 3:57 pm   Permalink

I haven't been looking at TC for a few months now so I've been out of the loop. I did do a search so I know that some people are aware, but speculation is running rampant, but does anyone know about situation of Caliente Tropics being sold. I am not attending Tiki Oasis V, but I'm sure it's still going to take place.

Anyway, I called Caliente Tropics about a week ago, hoping to book a room for last Saturday, they told me that I needed to stay 2 nights minimum, when I told them that I stayed there 2 months back, and they didn't push the policy, they responded that they have a new owner and new management. I was shocked but couldn't find anything on TC about this news.

Well, we stayed at the nearby Royal Sun this weekend anyway, but walked over to Caliente Tropics for drinks at the Reef, and to snoop around. Going to the Reef bar, it's changed a bit. The one bartender we met before isn't there, it's now staffed (and managed - I asked) by La Casita, the Mexican restaurant that is next door to Caliente Tropics. They will serve food from the restaurant, and they give chips and salsa to everyone who drinks there. They no longer play Frank Sinatra, rat pack, and 50's music, but instead, hip hop.

We didn't see Casey in the lobby. And that Tiki Central member picture frame is gone.

If anyone has information, I'd appreciate it. We stayed last stayed in Caliente Tropics when Shag's "Gracious Oasis" show was opening on Jan 29th. I hope the new owners have as much dedication to Tiki as Casey did.
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Satan's Sin
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Joined: Jun 13, 2004
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From: Imperial Beach, CA
Posted: 2005-04-26 4:21 pm   Permalink

If the new owner is a chain, then forget it. All funky, tiki ambiance will soon be toast. It's the law.

If the new owner is a private individual or a very small group of investors, then the most beautiful of TCers must be sent to him to sink her fangs in his throat and convert him to ... The Way.


 
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mrsmiley
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Joined: Apr 03, 2002
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From: Las Vegas, NV
Posted: 2005-04-26 4:25 pm   Permalink

Quote:

On 2005-04-26 15:57, paranoid123 wrote:


Well, we stayed at the nearby Royal Sun this weekend anyway, but walked over to Caliente Tropics for drinks at the Reef, and to snoop around. Going to the Reef bar, it's changed a bit. The one bartender we met before isn't there, it's now staffed (and managed - I asked) by La Casita, the Mexican restaurant that is next door to Caliente Tropics. They will serve food from the restaurant, and they give chips and salsa to everyone who drinks there. They no longer play Frank Sinatra, rat pack, and 50's music, but instead, hip hop.



Hip hop? Wasn't that the choice of music from Vegas' Taboo Cove just before it closed!?!?! (unless of course, the Reef now plays Tiki Hip Hop!)


 
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martiki
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Posted: 2005-04-26 6:56 pm   Permalink

FYI- this has been discussed, but is no longer available.

Per Otto, only management has changed, not ownership. Please see below post from Otto:

Baby Doe and I talked to the management team at the tropics on Monday afternoon and we have excellent news for you.

They assured us that they are fully supportive of Tiki Oasis 5 and are currently working hard to make sure everything goes smoothly

The Reef bar will be open for business but we are not sure whether there will be satelite bars. Still working on those details.

There will be some room changes but I doubt you would have noticed them had I not pointed them out right now - there will not be free water and sodas in the fridge (tip: bring some of your own or plan to make a run to the store), the cool embroidered towels are not standard equipment in the rooms, but are still available for sale in the lobby (tip #2: bring your own fluffy towel for poolside and/or bathing. Bonus tip: if you really like said towel write your name on it somewhere so it does not get lost), the hotel is no longer non-smoking (good news for some!)
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My understanding is that the Reef has always been owned by La Casita.

Sorry to hear about the hip hop.

VERY sorry to hear about the TC picture board in the lobby. I really hope that that got back to Monkeyman. That would be a disgrace if it was just shitcanned after all the work he put into it.







 
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The Monitors
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Joined: Apr 08, 2003
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From: The ILL streets of Santa Clarita, CA
Posted: 2005-04-28 1:50 pm   Permalink

I agree with Satans Sin, it's the law. The minute a tiki bar plays hip hop, it's the beginning of the end.

The drinks at the Reef were still good, but I demand confidence from my bartender when they make my Mai Tai. I could tell that the people behind the bar were just there for the job, and could care less if there was grenadine in my Mai Tai.


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Hakalugi
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From: Redondo Beach, CA
Posted: 2005-04-28 2:07 pm   Permalink

Quote:

On 2005-04-26 18:56, martiki wrote:
VERY sorry to hear about the TC picture board in the lobby. I really hope that that got back to Monkeyman. That would be a disgrace if it was just shitcanned after all the work he put into it.




Maybe Casey moved it into protective custody.

Casey?


 
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Swanky
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From: Hapa Haole Hideaway, TN
Posted: 2005-04-29 06:45 am   Permalink

The thing to realize is that what Caliente Tropics is today is thanks in large part to Casey Jones.

He had no idea when he went in, but BigBro and others turned him on to the history of the place and he went with it. He then found the ohana and great people like Bamboo Ben and Crazy Al who passionately helped with the renovations.

Tiki Oasis was spawned from this friendship. The cooperation of Otto and Casey make Oasis happen and grow.

Casey is no longer managing the Tropics. Changes have already been made that would upset us tikiphiles and who knows what direction they will go in from here. You have to worry. If the tiki-friendly managment is gone, it may well mean a new direction. Let's all hope it's just a retooling, not a complete change.

That said, Otto is going to have a rougher time than normal this year. You guys have to have seen Casey running around all Oasis weekend keeping things under control and making it all work. Otto will not have that help, nor any of the staff that has ever worked Oasis before probably. This is a time to support your host and hostess and lend a hand, not a time to complain. Enjoy and revel in what you have. I wish I was going to be there to help out and enjoy the whole scene.

Cheers to Otto, Baby Doe and Casey!
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mrsmiley
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From: Las Vegas, NV
Posted: 2005-04-29 5:31 pm   Permalink

Quote:

On 2005-04-29 06:45, Swanky wrote:
The thing to realize is that what Caliente Tropics is today is thanks in large part to Casey Jones.

He had no idea when he went in, but BigBro and others turned him on to the history of the place and he went with it. He then found the ohana and great people like Bamboo Ben and Crazy Al who passionately helped with the renovations.

Tiki Oasis was spawned from this friendship. The cooperation of Otto and Casey make Oasis happen and grow.

Casey is no longer managing the Tropics. Changes have already been made that would upset us tikiphiles and who knows what direction they will go in from here. You have to worry. If the tiki-friendly managment is gone, it may well mean a new direction. Let's all hope it's just a retooling, not a complete change.

That said, Otto is going to have a rougher time than normal this year. You guys have to have seen Casey running around all Oasis weekend keeping things under control and making it all work. Otto will not have that help, nor any of the staff that has ever worked Oasis before probably. This is a time to support your host and hostess and lend a hand, not a time to complain. Enjoy and revel in what you have. I wish I was going to be there to help out and enjoy the whole scene.

Cheers to Otto, Baby Doe and Casey!




I second that emotion!


 
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tikiyaki
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From: The Exotic Port of REDONDO BEACH, CA
Posted: 2005-04-29 7:08 pm   Permalink

UGH ! Hip Hop.... why do owners always feel like they have to satisfy the MTV generation to make money ? I love that place. I really hope they stay true to the cause. It was nice having a tiki getaway 2 hours away, and that pool is amazing.
Crossing my fingers....


 
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Jeff Central
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From: Columbus, Ohio
Posted: 2005-04-29 8:53 pm   Permalink

I third that emotion! Nice post Swanky. Has anyone heard from Casey? I don't think he has posted on TC in a long time. I hope he is ok.

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PoisonIvy
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Posted: 2005-04-29 11:15 pm   Permalink

The thing to realize is that what Caliente Tropics is today is thanks in large part to Casey Jones.

He had no idea when he went in, but BigBro and others turned him on to the history of the place and he went with it. He then found the ohana and great people like Bamboo Ben and Crazy Al who passionately helped with the renovations.

Tiki Oasis was spawned from this friendship. The cooperation of Otto and Casey make Oasis happen and grow.

Casey is no longer managing the Tropics. Changes have already been made that would upset us tikiphiles and who knows what direction they will go in from here. You have to worry. If the tiki-friendly managment is gone, it may well mean a new direction. Let's all hope it's just a retooling, not a complete change.

That said, Otto is going to have a rougher time than normal this year. You guys have to have seen Casey running around all Oasis weekend keeping things under control and making it all work. Otto will not have that help, nor any of the staff that has ever worked Oasis before probably. This is a time to support your host and hostess and lend a hand, not a time to complain. Enjoy and revel in what you have. I wish I was going to be there to help out and enjoy the whole scene.

Cheers to Otto, Baby Doe and Casey!
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Tiki-bot
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Posted: 2005-04-30 12:03 am   Permalink

Yes, Casey had a big hand in making the Tropics what it is and he was apparently motivated by the tiki ohana that volunteered to help him out. But his departure is by no means a death-knell of the tiki mana that exists there. Let's reserve judgement til Oasis weekend and see what happens, shall we?



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Swanky
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From: Hapa Haole Hideaway, TN
Posted: 2005-04-30 08:28 am   Permalink

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On 2005-04-29 23:15, PoisonIvy wrote:
How the hell do you know? Good thinkin' good wishin' but I neva' seen ya. Neva.



From hours of conversation with Casey. From lots of talks with BigBro. From working side by side with Casey at Hukilau, even though he was supposed to be there to have fun and relax. That's the kind of guy he is. A hard worker. A reliable person. A giving person. From having done Hukilau for years and knowing what it takes and knowing all that Oasis means to a manager like Casey. That's how the hell I know. Never seen you either.
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Swanky
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From: Hapa Haole Hideaway, TN
Posted: 2005-04-30 08:32 am   Permalink

Quote:

On 2005-04-30 00:03, Tiki-bot wrote:
Yes, Casey had a big hand in making the Tropics what it is and he was apparently motivated by the tiki ohana that volunteered to help him out. But his departure is by no means a death-knell of the tiki mana that exists there. Let's reserve judgement til Oasis weekend and see what happens, shall we?



What I am saying is, the many thousands who know of the Caliente Tropics thanks to the transformation Casey did and because of the promotion of Otto, need to make it known that they are a big part of the customers there. Oasis weekend should give them a chance to see all the fans of the Tropics as it is today. A huge positive influence.
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mrsmiley
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Posted: 2005-04-30 10:07 am   Permalink

I understood what you were saying, Swanky. I got yer back, buddy!
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