||the lost chapter: Hop Louie and the Stockton Islander (image heavy)
Joined: Jun 06, 2003
|Posted: 2005-07-14 1:06 pm  Permalink|
I have been away for a few days and just caught this thread.
Cleen, this is a perfect thread of why I come here.
Thank you for the inspiring info. You never let us down.
Joined: Aug 22, 2002
From: San Francisco
|Posted: 2005-07-14 1:51 pm  Permalink|
Did you learn anything about the Islander that was in Los Angeles? Was it opened by Hop Louie, or by Tommy Lee (or someone else entirely)?
(Man, I've got a lot of Critiki updating to do now!)
Critiki - Hundreds of tiki bars, Polynesian restaurants, and other sites of interest to the tiki traveller, collector or urban archaeologist
[ This Message was edited by: Humuhumu 2005-07-14 13:52 ]
Joined: Dec 13, 2002
From: New York City
|Posted: 2005-07-15 11:09 am  Permalink|
I showed my dad Tikicleen's article, and asked him a lot of questions. But I left my notes at my parent's house, so I'll post what information I have later.
But anyway, it's no longer a rumor or urban legend, my dad confirmed that Hop Louie did indeed lose the Islander through gambling. But he said it was either through poker or pai gow.
Oh, and my dad said that Hop Louie didn't have mob ties. Darn it. That would make it only more interesting :)
|the drunken hat|
Joined: Dec 20, 2003
From: Modesto, CA
|Posted: 2005-07-15 12:15 pm  Permalink|
humu~ the LA islander had a different owner. but as to who it was i have no idea. ask bob at OA he'll know the name of the person for sure.
paranoid~ that's what we had thought! did your dad know if he lost minnies in stockton and modesto the same way?
i ain't drunk.......i'm jus drankin. albert collins
Joined: Oct 02, 2002
From: The Coast of Kauai
|Posted: 2005-07-15 6:30 pm  Permalink|
A+ for you and a
Perfect spelling, grammar and delivery. I will have one gumdrop for you the next time we see each other.
Hop louie what a cool name
Stoke & Flow
Joined: Jul 09, 2004
From: Rancho Santa Margarita, CA
|Posted: 2005-07-15 10:48 pm  Permalink|
What a perfect post! Great research Cleen & Hat. Now Nina & I really must make the trek to Minnie's. Sorry we couldn't make it out on the last trip. Thanks for sharing all of your most excellent sleuthing!
"Ah, good taste! What a dreadful thing! Taste is the enemy of creativeness."
Joined: Jul 13, 2005
|Posted: 2005-07-16 06:03 am  Permalink|
Just wanted to I really enjoyed your historical research, it made for a very enjoyable read.
Joined: Aug 02, 2002
From: Seattle, WA
|Posted: 2005-07-18 10:28 am  Permalink|
Here's pics of the Minnie's Stockton menu :
And Minnie's Modesto menu :
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Grand Member (first year)
Joined: Mar 25, 2002
From: Tradewinds Apartments, Alameda, CA
|Posted: 2005-07-18 10:52 am  Permalink|
What, no Oysta Beef on the menu?!
Joined: Nov 11, 2003
From: ripon: almond capital yet no orgeat
|Posted: 2005-07-18 2:57 pm  Permalink|
puamana~ awesome! that cover of the gong lee's menu looks eerily similar to the matson lines menu cover for hawaii. i also like the note to the diner on the inside cover talking about how minnie's "takes justifiable pride in being listed in Duncan Hines' latest edition 'Adventures in Good Eating'." if we only knew the year!! i'd love to track down that duncan hine's book.
paranoid~ thanks for clarifying and confirming the loss of the islander to gambling. keep looking for some pictures of your uncle hop!
Joined: Aug 28, 2002
From: Vallejo CA
|Posted: 2005-07-19 9:56 pm  Permalink|
Cleen, thanks so much to you guys for this thread. It just keeps getting better and better! I can't believe that Stockton Minnie's info. My strange, semi-inexplicable fondness for Stockton nurtured anew! Ahhhh.
Seriously...East Harding...I think that's about where some good thrift stores are now...yum, skid row(s). Always interesting, at least until gentrification destroys everything nifty. Dang, I'm jonesing for Stockton now. Not to mention Modesto.
Thanks again and see you soon I hope!
Joined: Sep 09, 2003
|Posted: 2005-07-20 12:44 am  Permalink|
This comment was lost in the change from fake name to the real name.
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Joined: Aug 28, 2002
From: Vallejo CA
|Posted: 2005-07-20 6:07 pm  Permalink|
Filslash, you've just helped fill in a HUGE Chris Isaak missing link for me. Neato! Thanks! I'd love to hear any of his or Kenny's reminiscences...
Joined: Jan 04, 2003
From: Trader's Jungle Outpost, Turlock, Ca.
|Posted: 2005-07-20 6:46 pm  Permalink|
filslash, I know it's a long shot but it would be very cool if Chris or any of his bandmates could meet us sometime at Minnie's. He could show up in a disguise,...or not,....and I promise we wouldn't reveal his true identity. uh-huh, really.
Joined: Aug 14, 2005
|Posted: 2005-08-15 12:30 am  Permalink|
I am one of Hop Louie's daughters, and I just signed on this forum yesterday.
FYI: Hop did not lose the Islander to gambling.
I am checking with my other sisters about some of the things we might have left from any of the restaurants since the 1950's.
Please understand that that I am not a real computer/internet savvy type and it will take me a while to get a hang of this and I will try to post interior shots of Hop's restaurants when they were happening.