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the lost chapter: Hop Louie and the Stockton Islander (image heavy)
LOL Tiki
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Posted: 2010-05-01 9:46 pm   Permalink

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On 2010-04-30 17:32, abstractiki wrote:
I just realized the front of the car was cut off in that last picture so I scanned it again. The colors are almost dead on comparing the computer screen to the original but in the original photo the car looks like it might have a bit of a gold tone to it.

The Islander/Latitude was right on corner of Pacific Ave. and Benjamin Holt Drive. Pacific Ave was the main drag and cruising was big there during the sixties. I used to cruise it myself in 79-82 and even at 14 I rode my bike to this corner to watch the action. Then it was outlawed in the mid 80's and just as the Islander left Pacific Ave in the mid 80's so did cruising, end of and era.

Yea, I love this picture, this is a classic period photo. I almost fell over when he showed it to me.






I think you're right about the color. I once had a '67 Camaro with factory gold paint; the car in the photo looks very much like mine did (with respect to the paint job) and is also a Chevy.

My buddies and I cruised Pacific in the late 70's/early 80's. Who knows, we may have passed each other once or twice!
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Posted: 2010-05-01 9:50 pm   Permalink

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On 2010-05-01 13:42, leleliz wrote:

...how I would of loved to have seen it first hand in its hey day.

such a bummer



I can tell you, the restaurant and its great sign illuminated at night was beautiful to my young eyes.

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Posted: 2010-05-01 11:12 pm   Permalink

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On 2010-05-01 21:46, LOL Tiki wrote:
My buddies and I cruised Pacific in the late 70's/early 80's. Who knows, we may have passed each other once or twice!




I think John Wayne said that in a movie once.


 
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Posted: 2010-05-03 6:35 pm   Permalink

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Abstractiki, do you know if the Latitude 20 addition to the Islander was moved with the rest of the building or not?



Tikicleen wrote-
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I think tobunga posed a good question. it seems like latitude 20 wasn't part of the move since it appears to be such a long extension from the a-frame. however, in all of the articles that talked about the big move to Pollardville, it only mentions how the cut the place into three sections; top, and halved the bottom.



I often wondered about this myself during the first expeditions to the old place. But only the main Islander building was moved. I compared the color Islander postcard to more recent pictures out at the Pollardville location and can count the same number of outrigger beams in both locations.

Also I could never find it in the Islander blue print photos I took, not even the word Latitude was mentioned on them. The Latitude must have it's own prints since it was added on a few years later. I don't know for sure that Warren Wong also drew those prints or not. I may have to mount another expedition to find the Latitude 20 blue prints. Oh my...


Unga Bunga wrote-

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Found this by accident:



That's a great photo and great find UB!

I interviewed a man once who told me that the Stockton Rotary club used to meet at the Islander often and had a group picture taken out front. He told me I should contact them to see if they still have it in their archives. Some times clubs like this have historians and they tend to keep old photos and newspaper stories. I put it on my list of things to do but it was moved to the back burner and I never got around to following up on it.

Thanks for posting it!



 
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Posted: 2010-05-04 9:11 pm   Permalink

Sven, you gotta include that photo of Marty Thorpe and his hot rod in front of Latitude 20 in your next tiki tome! It's a classic!

And you beat me to the punch on this:
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I remembered this matchbook: Looks like it was THIS guy:



Sort of a Tiki baby. Reminds me of Sponge Bob when his lips are trembling and his eyes are watering
Now Eric is gonna make a felt Tiki out of it !




A plush version of that tiki is a great idea!

I was considering doing a pendant of the little tiki, and I already depicted it in a painting that I did for abstractiki that I included when I drew his name in the mug swap from earlier this year. I used the matchbook cover from this post as a guide for the painting, and images from his urban archaeology posted here for some of the other logos.

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Posted: 2010-05-04 9:44 pm   Permalink

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On 2010-05-03 18:35, abstractiki wrote:
Tobunga wrote-
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Abstractiki, do you know if the Latitude 20 addition to the Islander was moved with the rest of the building or not?



Tikicleen wrote-
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I think tobunga posed a good question. it seems like latitude 20 wasn't part of the move since it appears to be such a long extension from the a-frame. however, in all of the articles that talked about the big move to Pollardville, it only mentions how the cut the place into three sections; top, and halved the bottom.



I often wondered about this myself during the first expeditions to the old place. But only the main Islander building was moved. I compared the color Islander postcard to more recent pictures out at the Pollardville location and can count the same number of outrigger beams in both locations.




I think
this aerial shot bears that out as well (you'll need to zoom in). I see no evidence of the extension.

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Posted: 2010-05-05 01:24 am   Permalink

Very sad ! RAZZ !

 
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Posted: 2010-05-26 9:27 pm   Permalink

I recently met with a nice lady named Jo who used to bartend at the Stockton Latitude 20 from 1976 to 1979. She wanted some bamboo and we did a swap for some rum.

She was hired by Tommy Lee and started out at $2.00 per hr. She loved her job and said she often would sell about $1000 in drinks in a night. The Latitude Manager was named Nehi.

She shared with me some personal photos and artifacts from her time at the Latitude.
Included will be the first ever interior 1970's photos of the Stockton Latitude 20. Also two of the Tikis now at Minnie's are seen in the photos.

If any one should have questions for her send me them via PM and I'll forward them on to her.

Big Mahalo to Jo for the sharing these personal photos and mementos.
I'll start out with these.




The Islander used to give out wooden nickles.



Tommy Lee's business card.



Nehi's card (Latitude Manager) Note: disco now used in advertising.



This was on back of both business cards. Any one know what it says?





This type of menu was posted at the beginning of the thread but there are differences such as the prices, special show prices and drink minimums and the surf rider drink in the surfer girl mug is no longer offered.


ahhh getting late, I'll post more tomorrow.

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Posted: 2010-05-26 9:38 pm   Permalink

cool! i like how tommy saved money in converting the hop louie menus to his own by substituting his name in chinese characters on the back. i always thought the bumatay menu was the coolest looking. it's neat to see that tommy used it up until the end.

eagerly anticipating your photo finds!
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Posted: 2010-05-27 12:12 am   Permalink

The business cards are great! Also interesting to see which drinks went with which mugs. (Looks like they had a price change for the Scorpion!)
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Dustycajun
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Posted: 2010-05-27 07:32 am   Permalink

Great research as usual abstract. Can't wait to see the interior photos.

DC

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Posted: 2010-05-27 4:27 pm   Permalink

Wow! Another great urban Archaeology score for abstractiki! Can't wait to see the interior photos!

Mahalo fer posting, abstractiki!
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abstractiki
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Posted: 2010-05-27 6:44 pm   Permalink

Thanks guys, here is the collection of entertainer promo pics. These acts all performed between 1976 and 1979.





My mother in law remembers this group, The Leland Four. She said they were really good! They started out in Hawaii as the Hawaiian Shadows 1961-1965. They moved to the mainland and changed the name to the Leland Four. They never had a hit record but they opened up for Frank Sinatra Jr. in Vegas and other big names. From 1967-1978 The Leland Four played in many casinos, hotels, clubs, cruise ships and the Fair circuit.




I'm not sure if this is a rock group or some kind of comedy act.




Kona, great name!




This is all I could find on this family group.

Type of Work:Musical work
Registration Number / Date:PAu000549302 / 1983-07-25
Date of Creation:1983
Title:Everyday / words Gary Frischer ; music the Muglestons.
Basis of Claim:New Matter: music.
Previous Registration:Lyrics prev. reg.
Copyright Note:C.O. correspondence.
Description:1 p.
Copyright Claimant:Blaine Mugleston, Robert Mugleston, Desiree Mugleston, Troy Mugleston & Lance Mugleston
Authorship on Application:music: Robert Kenneth Mugleston, Desiree Margaret Mugleston, Blaine Derrick Mugleston, Troy Rees Mugleston & Lance Matthew Mugleston.
Names:Gary Frischer (4 documents)
example document: School daze
Robert Kenneth Mugleston (1 documents)
example document: Three songs by the Muglestons
Desiree Margaret Mugleston (1 documents)
example document: Three songs by the Muglestons
Blaine Derrick Mugleston (1 documents)
example document: Three songs by the Muglestons
Troy Rees Mugleston
Lance Matthew Mugleston





I think this guy's name is Johnny, he was a Frank Sinatra type.




And this my friends is the one and only Dick Dale!! and at this time he was performing with Jeannie. He also performed with her and the Del Tones 1980 in Garden Grove and one other club that I know of in Balboa Beach.

This is the first I had heard of the Surf Guitar Legend playing at the Stockton Latitude 20. Thats a very cool historical discovery if you ask me!

Look for Latitude 20 interior photos tomarow night!





 
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Posted: 2010-05-27 9:11 pm   Permalink

Groovy! Bitchen! Outasight! Like Wild!

 
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abstractiki
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Posted: 2010-05-28 5:47 pm   Permalink

This first photo I had previously posted and am posting again for reference.




Stockton Record photo from newspaper.



It seams that the Latitude started out in 1965 with a more clean MCM type style and then at some point picked up some Beachcomber/Groovy 70s style.

Note that these pictures are done with an Instamatic camera and are all focusing on people at a Halloween Party.




Jo and Nehi with coworkers.




I'm guessing these colorful designs on the walls were not there when the Latitude was first opened and were added later in an attempt to update the decor. Hence the Groovy 70's style.




This decor was thick and protruded from the wall, most likely cut from plywood.




A nice big Tiki mask in this photo. You can also see publicity pictures and clutter now on the walls and door behind the bar. Note the boat props signed and hanging around the door. Hence a more Beachcomber type style.




Another big Tiki mask behind the bar and the Tiki off to the right is now at Minnie's in Modesto. Far right is one of the black velvet paintings.




There is another Tiki in the center and another black velvet painting off to the left.




Some nice puffer fish, floats and a Tiki in back of the bar. The green bar is cool!




Some nice big floats and some kind of fish-trap or something hanging from the ceiling.




You can see the big dance floor better in this black and white photo.


Mahlo Jo for sharing your personal photos and mementos from the Latitude 20.


Happy Hunting!


 
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