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Benzart
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Posted: 2008-10-13 07:28 am   Permalink







"Mangle you own language if you must . Leave the indigenous one of this country intact ok ."

C'mon Jock,no one is "Mangling" Anyones language here man, I don't understand the issue.

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GMAN
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Posted: 2008-10-13 08:02 am   Permalink

double post


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GMAN
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Posted: 2008-10-13 08:04 am   Permalink

Jock - I apologized already. I already said I didn't mean to offend anyone. People often abbreviate terms when writing on the web. What you are doing here is trolling and it is frowned upon here at TC. I request that you back off.

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GMAN
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Posted: 2008-10-13 08:06 am   Permalink

triple post - TC was not loading on my end.

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Toataiaha
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From: Otautahi , Te WahiPounamu
Posted: 2008-10-13 1:24 pm   Permalink

There is no such word in the Maori Reo as teko.
And the 'internet practice of shortening words , does not legitimise the invention and use of it .
Gman , you said that you already knew , yet you went ahead and did it anyway Why ?

I am not 'trolling' , my seconed reply was to benzart.

About that particular tekoteko , there is a very good chance that it was moulded on a machine like this

'Hemi' the carver ?

The giveaways are the lack of clean sharp lines and the sanded smoothness . Some sanding marks are easily seen.
Maori wood carvers here do not generally use sandpaper. They usually surface pare .
There is some obvious tearing in the wood . Tearing that , if it did happen when being handcarved , would be pared away .
It is highly unlikely that the wood is kauri . No carver worth his salt would stain kauri , because that would destroy the chatoyance that kauri is prized for .



There is a fair chance that the 'tekoteko' was not even manufactured in either Te WahiPounamu or Aotearoa NZ .

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GMAN
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Posted: 2008-10-13 2:07 pm   Permalink

Dude, what gives? I've tried to be cool about this. I have apologized and asked you to back off. I already said I meant no offense.

I said I knew what a tekoteko is, most of us do. I apologized for calling it a "teko", a shortened version of the word I have used a thousand times here as have many other people on TC. I understand it is not a real word....I will try not to refer to things as "tekos" if others are sensitive to that. I meant no offense. You could also avoid my thread if it bothers you that much. That might make both of us happy.

Any info I posted about the carving is what was offered up to me from some other NZ carvers when I asked them about it. I'm not going to debate that with you.

To me, you seemed to just want a fight? I'm not going to give it to you here. Please go away now. Thank you. Have a nice day.
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Toataiaha
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Posted: 2008-10-13 2:24 pm   Permalink

Have it your own way mate .
Enjoy your machine made pinus radiata object .
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tikimecula
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Joined: Apr 27, 2004
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From: BFE, KS
Posted: 2008-10-13 5:35 pm   Permalink

No way that was Machine Made. You can see chisel marks in the spirals and other places. I get the same marks when i try a spiral.

Good score on that one Gman. I would be VERY happy if i had one just like it.



 
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Benzart
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Posted: 2008-10-13 8:23 pm   Permalink

I Agree T-Mec, Unless you have laid a chisel into wood carving those Koro you would have no idea what kind of marks were left by that chisel and there is no other tool that can leave those marks like that.

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benella
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From: Meudon, France
Posted: 2008-10-14 01:11 am   Permalink

Hey G-, thanks for the pix, it makes me really happy... And happy that a carver like you fell on this treasure.

Sorry for not having answered before but I moved and I'm "internet-less" !

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tikifreak1
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From: Northern Virginia
Posted: 2008-10-14 04:07 am   Permalink

WOW! Maybe you should put it back on Craig's list? JK, I bet it looks cool in the "man room". Enjoy.

 
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GMAN
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Posted: 2008-10-18 07:11 am   Permalink

Benella - You are welcome for the pics. Let me know if there are any other parts of him you would like more pics of.

TFreak - Nah man, He's not going back on Craig's list. He will be right here being enjoyed by me - just as the carver who made him for the tourist trade intended.

I am set to try to fill my last lizard tag tomorrow night. Hopefully I am able to do that and then get back to carving this fellow here. I would like to do some more sanding and then get to carving some small stuff on his surface. I appologize for the lack of carving progress here, but as I get older all the other things I like to do seem to be getting harder on me and I take longer to recover.



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Tiki Duddy
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Posted: 2008-10-18 08:30 am   Permalink

Looks Great Gman!
always loving that red!


 
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Babalu
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From: Lemon Grove
Posted: 2008-10-21 7:00 pm   Permalink

GMAN! GMAN! GeeeeeMAN! You the bomb GMAN! You rock this house from the foundation to the rafters! Keep it comin' brother.

 
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seeksurf
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From: Buckley, WA
Posted: 2008-10-22 11:34 am   Permalink

Sweet carve GMAN you are a master at this.

Old man or not I love seeing your work.
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