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Johnnyp Tut 2/19
hodadhank
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Posted: 2006-04-29 8:18 pm   Permalink

Hey JohnnyP! Awesome new stuff. What's that little weapon that looks like a vienna finger with one tooth sticking out?

 
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Loki
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From: Boca Raton, FL
Posted: 2006-05-01 06:13 am   Permalink

JP,
I said small, but you really went small...nice. Did you use a hook knife or exacto blade? How long did you work on him?
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Benzart
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Posted: 2006-05-01 07:34 am   Permalink

More sweetness from JohnnyP. You are getting dangerous.

 
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GMAN
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Posted: 2006-05-01 6:06 pm   Permalink

Agreed, much sweetness from brother JohnnyP. He's been a busy boy. That pendant is really neat, and really SMALL! Jeeze! I guess you used the dime tip bar on that one? I'm digging the faux boar tusks. Paint those suckers white...real cool Johnny!

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JohnnyP
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From: Attica, MI
Posted: 2006-05-06 04:26 am   Permalink

Thank you for the complements - Keeps me going

Hodadhank- I really don't know what that little sausage thing is. I expect it is more of a utility tool than a weapon, maybe one of the Hawai'i ohana could answer.

Loki, this piece was all power. It is made from teak. I don't know if all teak is like this, but you can barely get a knife through it since it so hard.

Benzart I don't think I am dangerous, just to myself.


OK here is the question.

I am currently in the middle of a carving and have a dilemma. Imagine a tiki with teeth like a crocodile, lips pulled back exposing all the teeth. The tips on the teeth are contacting the gums of the opposite jaw., so every other tooth is up /down but has a gap between them. I would like to hollow out the area behind the teeth and I plan on doing this from the backside(similar to what Benzart does with his Lonos mouths). The question I have is: is it better to carve the teeth and the gaps between them and round the backside of the teeth before I hollow out the space or after?

I am afraid of not having wood behind the teeth to support them while I am carving them, but I also do not want to spend hours carving only to damage them during the hollowing process.


Thanks for the help.

John


 
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GMAN
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Posted: 2006-05-06 05:19 am   Permalink

JohnnyP,

I don't think I would finish carving the teeth and then break out the big stuff to hollow him out, nor would I hollow it out and then start the teeth. I would get the hollowing close, but still leave enough wood to support your work; then, I would do the teeth and slowly remove the wood behind them. Hope this helps.

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Benzart
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Posted: 2006-05-06 12:23 pm   Permalink

Dear John,,,
I think it would be best to carve out the front and sides of the teeth Only. You can take the gap between the teeth really deep, but don't carve the backs of the teeth out until you get the Back side of the carving hollowed out. As you go in deeper from the back then you can finish shaping the teeth all around. This way if you need to set the teeth further back, you will have the option, where as if you carve out the backs of the teeth before hollowing out the back, you are set at that depth for the teeth. I hope this makes sense. If not you can call me and I will try to help further.

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JohnnyP
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From: Attica, MI
Posted: 2006-05-08 11:58 am   Permalink

Thanks guys,
Appreciate the help and advice, Hopefully it will help me from messing up.

Benzart- yes it did make sense

Pictures soon.

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Basement Kahuna
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From: Jawja Province, Isle of North America
Posted: 2006-05-09 05:00 am   Permalink

Johnny-always keep a tube of superglue gel in your carving kit. If you get a chip that wasn't meant to be, it will pop it right back on. Cyanoacrylite loves wood (any organic material) and the bond is actually stronger than the original woodfiber bond, and when sanded it's invisible. That's an old antique dealer's furniture trick that made it into this phase of my life..

 
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GMAN
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Posted: 2006-05-12 4:11 pm   Permalink

JP,

I hope to see pics of the big project this weekend. Please don't hold out on us any longer. I don't think I can stand it.

-Greg


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tikigap
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Joined: Jan 19, 2006
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From: Arlingtron Virginia
Posted: 2006-05-12 6:38 pm   Permalink

Wow JP! That's some fantastic work there! Where did you get all those teeth? Very nice, and as Benz said "and out of oak too!". I'm impressed...
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GMAN
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Posted: 2006-05-16 7:23 pm   Permalink

We want pics!!!!!!

 
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JohnnyP
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From: Attica, MI
Posted: 2006-05-20 5:48 pm   Permalink

Here are some pictures that are long over due for Gman. The weather actually cooperated today and I managed to get some carving in. I worked on a few clubs and managed to finish blocking out a PNG crocodile canoe prow.

Here goes.

Roughly blocked in with chainsaw and angle grinder.


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Details sketched in for carving.


Maybe tomorrow Ill get more time on it.

I finally assembled all my sandpaper to do the Benzart sand paper sharpening system and actually took the time to sharpen a dull cheap Stanley flat chisel through 2000 grit. It was able to shave hairs off my arm. I then took it to some wood. I have to say, I did not know carving could be such a pleasure. I have never felt something cut through wood, even knots, so easily. I did not know what I was missing. The surface of the cut wood felt like glass, even on end-grain. And this with a cheap Stanley Kmart chisel. I've sharpened them with grinders and wetstoned, but have not gotten results like that. Never again will I use a dull chisel. Thank you for the tip Benzart.

Thank you TikiGap. I am trying to find some pictures of New Guinea bat carvings, when I do, I'll send you the link.

Thanks for looking
JP


 
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GMAN
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Posted: 2006-05-20 6:23 pm   Permalink

JP,

Yep, that's what I wanted to see! It looks great. you said this what what, 6 feet long? It's hard to determine the size in the pics. I imagine it must be awesome in person. I can't wait to see what you do with that Foredom on this bad boy. The pen layout looks serious. Sweet stuff!

Thanks for posting!

-Gman

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Benzart
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Posted: 2006-05-20 7:25 pm   Permalink

Johnny, Nice to hear you are enjoying Sharp chisels, they DO Make a diffrence and this canoe prow will certainly look better for it. This is new and interesting, I Love the piece. Very Nice design
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