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Ray's Mistake
ickytiki
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Posts: 58
From: Orangevale, CA
Posted: 2015-01-20 12:27 pm   Permalink

Ahoy kkocka!

Thank you for your comments...

This post was started in 2005 and is still going strong with the help of the Tiki Central Ohana.

I also have been contributing to it for the past three years and love all the positive participation it receives. I believe the input that all the users have made in the past have led us all in the right direction.

In general, most people read the last page of threads and that's why the recipe has been posted at the end. (So, others can locate the current version without digging through all the pages.)

You obviously believe the recipe is just a close approximation. We would all love to hear your version's measurements and ingredients and how you came to your conclusion.

Please share!

Here is what we originally started with:

RAY'S MISTAKE (from LA)

1oz lime juice,
1oz passion fruit juice
1oz sweet 'n sour
1 oz rum,
1 oz gin,
1 oz pineapple juice
1 oz coconut milk
1 oz guava juice

Shake vigorously, garnish with pineapple.

Looking forward to your recipe and contributions!

~icky


 
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TikiSan
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From: O.C., SoCal
Posted: 2015-01-27 4:45 pm   Permalink

Quote:

On 2015-01-19 23:27, ickytiki wrote:
RAY'S MISTAKE

1/2 oz Lime Juice
1/2 oz Passion Fruit Syrup
1/2 oz Maple Syrup
1/2 oz Simple Syrup
1/2 oz Orange Curacao
1 oz Soda Water
3 drops Vanilla Extract
3 drops Almond Extract
1/2 oz Light Puerto Rican Rum
1/2 oz Barton's Gin
3/4 oz Coruba Dark Rum (Floated)

Blend the above ingredients (Except the Coruba Dark Rum) with a cup of crushed ice for several seconds at low speed. Pour everything into a Collins Glass and float the dark rum. Garnish with a cocktail cherry and pineapple wedge.

Cheers!

~icky




Excellent drink! I think you are very much on the right track. I made it with Plymouth gin, 1/4 oz grade B maple syrup, and Monin Passion Fruit Syrup. Well balanced drink! Will be making more of these! Keep up the excellent work!
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ickytiki
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Posts: 58
From: Orangevale, CA
Posted: 2015-01-27 11:30 pm   Permalink

Ahoy TikiSan!

Thanks for your positive comments and input...

I've always made this recipe with Grade "A" Maple Syrup. It's just what my wife buys and I have never thought of using Grade "B" Syrup because... Well, it's not in my pantry. (haha!) I really didn't know that there was that much of a difference until doing some research a week or so ago. So, my wife and I had friends over a few days ago and we mixed the recipe using Grade "B" to see what it tasted like.

Well, it surprising makes a huge, huge difference! More than I would have ever guessed. It never really came up until recently on this post. But, I highly recommend using Grade "A" Maple Syrup... Grade "B" Maple Syrup is just too strong and dominates all the other flavors.

So, here is the latest version... Cheers!

~icky

RAY'S MISTAKE

1/2 oz Lime Juice
1/2 oz Passion Fruit Syrup
1/2 oz Grade "A" Maple Syrup (Grade "B" is too strong)
1/2 oz Simple Syrup
1/2 oz Orange Curacao
1 oz Soda Water
3 drops Vanilla Extract
3 drops Almond Extract
1/2 oz Light Puerto Rican Rum
1/2 oz Barton's Gin
3/4 oz Coruba Dark Rum (Floated)

Blend the above ingredients (Except the Coruba Dark Rum) with a cup of crushed ice for several seconds at low speed. Pour everything into a Collins Glass and float the dark rum. Garnish with a cocktail cherry and pineapple wedge.

[ This Message was edited by: ickytiki 2015-01-27 23:56 ]


 
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kkocka
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Posted: 2015-01-28 10:54 am   Permalink

Quote:

On 2015-01-27 23:30, ickytiki wrote:
I really didn't know that there was that much of a difference until doing some research a week or so ago. So, my wife and I had friends over a few days ago and we mixed the recipe using Grade "B" to see what it tasted like.

Well, it surprising makes a huge, huge difference! More than I would have ever guessed. It never really came up until recently on this post. But, I highly recommend using Grade "A" Maple Syrup... Grade "B" Maple Syrup is just too strong and dominates all the other flavors.



What, you didn't believe my earlier post when I said that 1/2 oz Grade "B" syrup made the whole drink taste like pancakes?

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On 2015-01-27 16:45, TikiSan wrote:
Excellent drink! I think you are very much on the right track. I made it with Plymouth gin, 1/4 oz grade B maple syrup, and Monin Passion Fruit Syrup. Well balanced drink! Will be making more of these! Keep up the excellent work!



I'm going to make another one with 1/4 oz Grade A and see how that comes out...I have a feeling much better than 1/2 oz Grade A.
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ickytiki
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Joined: Feb 07, 2010
Posts: 58
From: Orangevale, CA
Posted: 2015-01-28 2:08 pm   Permalink

Ahoy kkocka!

I do believe you... I just needed to see how bad your version was.

Yep... You're correct; it was terrible!

Like I said earlier, I had been using Grade "A" Maple Syrup and I had no idea that changing it to Grade "B" would have such an awful impact. So, thanks for clearing it up.

Do you have any other substitution recommendations to ruin this drink page? (This could be endless...)

I'm shocked that you even keep making another one. You don't seem happy with it and by your own admission you think this recipe is just, "a close approximation."

So, please share your recipe...

Here, I started it for you:

KOCK'S MISTAKE

1/2 oz Grade "B" Maple Syrup (or 1/4 oz Grade "A" Maple Syrup... Because he has a feeling that it's much better than 1/2 oz Grade A.")

It's a rather "small" drink but it makes him happy!!!

Haha! I'm simply going to have to pass on your version so far, brother. Thanks for your contribution though. Your comments make for a good laugh.

Cheers!

~icky

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kkocka
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Posted: 2015-01-28 4:18 pm   Permalink

Why would I use 1/2 oz Grade B when I've largely written about how awful that drink version was?

I'd simply use 1/4 oz Grade A instead of 1/2 oz Grade A. I've not really knocked your attempt other than stating its not THE Mistake you'll get when you order at Tiki Ti. I think that much is obvious by anybody reading this thread or trying the drinks. I do think its on the right path however and "a close approximation" I believe is an accurate review, unless it's THE recipe and you're just trying to hold out on us by acting modest. I've never said I have my own recipe either. Please don't come off so butthurt when that's not my intention.
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hiltiki
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From: Reseda, calif.
Posted: 2015-01-28 6:49 pm   Permalink

There is absolutely no Maple syrup or Maple flavoring in this drink, none, zero, zilch.....

 
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happy buddha
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Posted: 2015-01-28 7:07 pm   Permalink

I recently made this recipe, and it was tasty enough, but pretty unremarkable I thought. By all accounts, the Ray's is one of the most beloved Tiki drinks out there... Does it really taste like this? What are the opinions of those who've recently had the real thing?

This is just my opinion, btw. Not to downplay yr hard work, Icky. Nothing better than trying to crack the recipe of a great drink!


 
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thePorpoise
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From: Tampa Bay
Posted: 2015-01-28 8:23 pm   Permalink

Quote:

On 2015-01-28 18:49, hiltiki wrote:
There is absolutely no Maple syrup or Maple flavoring in this drink, none, zero, zilch.....



so you're saying the recipe above is Icky's Mistake?


 
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ickytiki
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Posts: 58
From: Orangevale, CA
Posted: 2015-01-28 8:53 pm   Permalink

Ahoy!

Well... shucks.

I'll gladly put my name on this drink if nobody wants to claim it. Heck, I've been working on it forever. But, if my name's going to be on it, I might as share my personal recipe.

Ladies and gentlemen... For your drinking pleasure!

THE ICKY MISTAKE

1/2 oz Fresh Lime Juice
3/4 oz Monin's Passion Fruit Syrup
1/4 oz Grade "A" Maple Syrup Only
1/2 oz Falernum
1/2 oz Senior's Orange Curacao
2 oz Soda Water
3 drops Vanilla Extract
3 drops Almond Extract
1/2 oz El Dorado 5 Year Demerara Rum
1/2 oz Barton's Gin
1/2 oz Coruba Dark Rum (Floated)

Blend the above ingredients (Except the dark rum) with a cup of crushed ice for several seconds at low speed. Pour everything into a Collins Glass and float the black strap. Garnish with a cocktail cherry and pineapple wedge.

Cheers!

~icky

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Loki-Tiki
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From: Like...The Valley
Posted: 2015-01-29 08:57 am   Permalink

Quote:

On 2015-01-28 19:07, happy buddha wrote:
What are the opinions of those who've recently had the real thing?


It's the first drink I order when I walk in, then I contemplate what the second will be. So it's a favorite of mine.


 
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kkocka
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Posted: 2015-01-29 1:04 pm   Permalink

Quote:

On 2015-01-28 18:49, hiltiki wrote:
There is absolutely no Maple syrup or Maple flavoring in this drink, none, zero, zilch.....



Careful what you say here, you'll get speared. That being said, I think I am going to go on a Wednesday in the near future when they offer $6 Mistakes until 9pm. Great drink, again probably not my favorite, but you can't beat $6!
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AceExplorer
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From: Deep in the Jacksonville Florida jungle.
Posted: 2015-02-11 06:48 am   Permalink

The "mistake" in Ray's Mistake may have been the gin.

This past weekend I stopped by my local Wal-Mart liquor store looking for small bottles of Campari. (Duh, they don't carry a lot of variety.) But -- and this completely caught me by surprise -- they are the only place in my entire region where I've seen Barton's gin for sale, and I've even looked at various web sites. I had pretty much concluded that Barton's was going to be a local special-order item, or that it would be a mail-order item.

I observed that Barton's must be really really really good gin because it currently has bottom shelf placement at Wal-Mart and is priced at $13.xx for a whole 1.75 liter plastic bottle. It's labeled "extra dry London gin" and, when tasted neat, it really doesn't taste very good at all compared to the higher end London drys. If there was a shelf lower than the bottom shelf at Wal-Mart, I'm thinking that's where it might rightly belong. So it seems to be a low-cost well spirit, one that the distributors foist upon businesses with promises of higher profit margins.

I bought one jug of Barton's and will be testing various Mistake recipes in this thread. I'll publish some comments later when I get around to it. I have a list of 6 other cocktails I'm testing right now, so the lab bench is pretty full.
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Tonga Tiki
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From: The Tonga Lounge in Safety Harbor, FL
Posted: 2015-02-12 6:18 pm   Permalink

I've looked at this thread now and then enjoying all the reverse engineering. I have never had the pleasure of having a real Ray's Mistake. Has there ever been a consensus that one recipe in particular was close to the real thing? Since I won't be at the Tiki Ti anytime soon I would like to at least have an idea of what I'm missing.

 
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AceExplorer
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From: Deep in the Jacksonville Florida jungle.
Posted: 2015-02-13 06:32 am   Permalink

Tonga, check the last 20 or so posts and I think you'll see that this thread doesn't seem to have arrived at a final consensus, and I'm not sure that's ever going to happen, but what's posted is considered acceptably close. But there are easily a couple of nights of material here in the last 20 posts for you to test at home. I tried a couple of the recipes, but I'm not finished, and I won't really comment on the recipes until I go back and re-test and come up with something decent to say.

Since I just recently acquired some of that "very fine high-end" Barton's rum, it's back to the bench in the lab to start all over again. Thank gawd testing and trying this stuff is fun to do.

A "real" Ray's Mistake is on my bucket list the next time I'm out in LA. That along with dragging my 82-year-old mom into another real tiki bar. What a hoot - she rolls with it and is a great sport and enjoys the drinks. I found that out when I took her to Frankie's Tiki Room and also The Hukilau three or four years ago. I wish she could live forever...


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