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Well THAT would kinda suck !: Vic's Beverly Hills a goner?
christiki295
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From: LA-2547 mls east Hawaii &5500 Easter Is
Posted: 2006-04-05 1:09 pm   Permalink

More pictures of Trader Vics BH, courtesy of Critiki:

http://www.critiki.com/cgi-bin/pictures.cgi?loc_id=15


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Posted: 2006-04-05 1:37 pm   Permalink

The Los Angeles Modcom group held an emergency meeting last night; they are working feverishly to put together plans to stop this. They'd love to have help. They're working on setting up a Yahoo! email account for the effort; until they have that set up, you can contact Chris Nichols if you already know him and have his contact info, or PM me and I'll give you his email address (I don't want to post it online). Hopefully they'll have a Yahoo! account by later today.

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tikibars
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Posted: 2006-04-05 1:38 pm   Permalink

I find these reports of people walking out with the decor to be curious.

Sure, the glassware and menus will vanish, but historically all of the Tikis and substantial items have been reclaimed and stored by the Trader Vic's people, to be used in future restaurant openings.

From their earliest 1970s closures right up to the closing of Chicago a few months ago, they've always kept the good stuff to reuse.



 
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tikijackalope
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Posted: 2006-04-05 3:46 pm   Permalink

How successful are preservation efforts in LA in a case like this in which the *owner* wants to destroy/alter the property? It doesn't have the same sympathy factor as a case involving a city seizing a property by eminent domain evokes.

What about an appeal to those vintage celebrities who are always being seen at TVs? If you end up trying to lead a customer-based campaign targeted at the hotel, they have name, voice and face recognition which might rally lesser-known people to write letters and emails.

Also, are there any local ordinances or hot-button issues in Beverly Hills that can be utilized to discourage such a construction project (aside from the height issue)? Traffic along Santa Monica affected by the construction, water-usage issues...anything like that?

Good luck!

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SoccerTiki
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From: TheSoccerTikiGrotto, Island of LongBeach
Posted: 2006-04-05 6:32 pm   Permalink

Quote:

On 2006-04-05 08:32, Digitiki wrote:
Any word on whether or not they are going to reopen in LA? It seems that TV's is undergoing a resurgence - opening new locations and all. It would be a shame to leave a city like LA without a Vic's.


How many years has it been now since we had a football team in LA???? I don't think I could wait that long for the next Kamaaina!!!


 
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christiki295
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Posted: 2006-04-06 12:45 am   Permalink

Quote:

On 2006-04-05 15:46, tikijackalope wrote:
How successful are preservation efforts in LA in a case like this in which the *owner* wants to destroy/alter the property? It doesn't have the same sympathy factor as a case involving a city seizing a property by imminent domain evokes.




The Derby in Los Feliz has presented a very similar issue. This is the status, according to the Los Angeles Conservancy:
http://www.laconservancy.org/issues/issues_list.php4#feliz


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tikijackalope
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Posted: 2006-04-06 3:20 pm   Permalink

As covered in other posts, Trader Vic's is the oldest tiki bar on Route 66 and is the only one of any appreciable age. The 66 connection might ramp up the appeal for preservation. There is a California Historic Route 66 Association, http://www.wemweb.com/chr66a/ , but I don't know how politically active they are.

Of tangential interest is the controversy over Rod's Grill in Arcadia.

Last I knew, Rod's was endangered by the city of Arcadia which has already filed eminent domain against one of its neighbors in an effort to allow for expansion of a Mercedes dealership: http://www.libertypost.org/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=132849 and http://www.pasadenastarnews.com/news/ci_3591421
There have been some protests, but I don't know the current state of their effectiveness.
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WooHooWahine
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Posted: 2006-04-07 08:01 am   Permalink

Today's Los Angeles Times Calendar Section has an article titled: "Tiki Tacky? Not to fans of Trader Vic's" on page 1 and continued on page E 22. It tells all about a developer's plan to say bye-bye to the home of the mai tai

 
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Michigan Rummy
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Posted: 2006-04-07 09:09 am   Permalink

Here's a link for the above mentioned "Tiki tacky? Not to fans of Trader Vic's" article:

http://www.calendarlive.com/nightlife/cl-et-vics7apr07,0,2536244.story?coll=cl-nightlife-top-right

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piwackit
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Posted: 2006-04-07 1:07 pm   Permalink

Want to keep Trader Vicís from the developerís ball?
Hereís what to do:

Email, call & write the LA Conservancy & ask them to declare Trader Vicís a historical site. Go to the Beverly Hills planning boards meetings & let them know that letting a developer destroy a landmark is unacceptable.

Write/email Hilton corporate headquarters & let them know that many view this as a historic landmark & it would be better to revamp the restaurant to draw in the very large Tiki community. How about a floor show to go w/the new look? Dinner, dancing & a show anyone? Wouldnít it be great to see Royal Crown Revue, Brian Setzer & other swing acts there? How about a new food menu designed by a celebrity chef? Have a menu w/a large price range. Not to mention the drinks!

Remember, the Hilton & developers are looking at this from a money standpoint. You have to make them see it will bring in money if they take the time to revamp the whole thing the right way rather than destroy everything. Point out new restaurant openings here in Los Angeles & other places. Let them know they are neglecting a whole community looking for places to go. Let them know about ebay auctions, Tiki mug collectors, etc. Point out the brand new Trader Vicís Tiki Party Book which is selling great. The Tiki Oasis conventions, all the web sites devoted to Tiki culture, revamped hotels, anything you can thing of that would show them how important places like this are to the community as a whole.

People to contact:
Los Angeles Conservancy:
Ken Bernstein Director of preservation issues
Linda Dishman Conservancyís executive director
Adriene Biondo, chairwoman of the conservancy's Modern Committee

Marie Garvey spokesperson for Oasis West Realty, Alagem's firm

Make sure to keep to the point in a polite, professional manner.
Come up w/solutions rather than just criticisms. People respond better that way.
Good Luck to us all!


 
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tikiyaki
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Posted: 2006-04-07 3:05 pm   Permalink

Quote:

On 2006-04-07 13:07, piwackit wrote:
Want to keep Trader Vicís from the developerís ball?
Hereís what to do:

Email, call & write the LA Conservancy & ask them to declare Trader Vicís a historical site. Go to the Beverly Hills planning boards meetings & let them know that letting a developer destroy a landmark is unacceptable.

Write/email Hilton corporate headquarters & let them know that many view this as a historic landmark & it would be better to revamp the restaurant to draw in the very large Tiki community. How about a floor show to go w/the new look? Dinner, dancing & a show anyone? Wouldnít it be great to see Royal Crown Revue, Brian Setzer & other swing acts there? How about a new food menu designed by a celebrity chef? Have a menu w/a large price range. Not to mention the drinks!

Remember, the Hilton & developers are looking at this from a money standpoint. You have to make them see it will bring in money if they take the time to revamp the whole thing the right way rather than destroy everything. Point out new restaurant openings here in Los Angeles & other places. Let them know they are neglecting a whole community looking for places to go. Let them know about ebay auctions, Tiki mug collectors, etc. Point out the brand new Trader Vicís Tiki Party Book which is selling great. The Tiki Oasis conventions, all the web sites devoted to Tiki culture, revamped hotels, anything you can thing of that would show them how important places like this are to the community as a whole.

People to contact:
Los Angeles Conservancy:
Ken Bernstein Director of preservation issues
Linda Dishman Conservancyís executive director
Adriene Biondo, chairwoman of the conservancy's Modern Committee

Marie Garvey spokesperson for Oasis West Realty, Alagem's firm

Make sure to keep to the point in a polite, professional manner.
Come up w/solutions rather than just criticisms. People respond better that way.
Good Luck to us all!




Do you have contact inof for these people ?


 
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Humuhumu
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Posted: 2006-04-07 3:32 pm   Permalink

The Los Angeles Conservancy and Mod Com are the same thing (Mod Com is short for the Los Angeles Conservancy's Modern Committee). Mod Com is looking for volunteers to join their effort and help give it as much traction as possible. As Mod Com chairwoman Adrienne Biondo said to the Los Angeles Times, "Itís not an issue thatís going to go away."

If you'd like to help out, send an email to
savebhtv@humuhumu.com .

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Cherry Capri
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Posted: 2006-04-07 6:16 pm   Permalink

If you are interested in the preservation efforts for Trader Vics Beverly Hills, please join our discussion and the "Save Trader Vics" team at the Los Angeles Conservancy Modern Committee's Message Board at Lotta Living
http://www.lottaliving.com/bb/viewtopic.php?t=5513
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tikisuz
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Posted: 2006-04-09 12:37 am   Permalink

Well, I will be working to help save TV Bev Hills. I just went there tonite for drinks with some tiki loving friends - and the place was bustling. The food could be improved...but I think that the new owner just wants to level it. We had a 30 min wait to get a table. And we were some of the only people that were there for the tiki-osity. There is plenty of room to add on condos without leveling Trader Vic's. The owner just wants what he wants.

So we need to make that really difficult for him. Bad press is what it is all about.

Our hope is Hollywood. We need some movers and shakers to weigh in, and for the Hilton to not get bookings related to the film industry. Otherwise it will face the fate of the Ambassador Hotel.


 
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procinema29
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Posted: 2006-04-09 10:15 am   Permalink

It looks like there's a few different avenues a person can take to help preserve this place. I think the objective is worth the effort--actually EXPERIENCING the place last week was an inspiration to me! I'm gonna jump in and do what I can!

 
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