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caerthe
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Posted: 2006-03-02 09:48 am   Permalink

A question regarding event marketing.

By what method do you usually learn of a future tiki event?

-Email such as Otto's "TikiEvents" posts
-Ads in a tiki magazine (Tiki News or Tiki Magazine) for example
-Event websites
-Direct mail announcements sent to your home.
-Radio announcements on stations like "Vegas Vics Tiki Lounge"
-Online discussion lists such as Tiki Central
-Word of mouth

Follow up question:

Which of those listed above prove to be the most reliable or persuasive?

Does hearing about the event from a trusted source sway your decision to attend more so than an informative website?



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caerthe
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Posted: 2006-03-02 7:12 pm   Permalink

A question for Tiki veterans.

What is one thing, common to the events you attend, that you'd like to see changed?


 
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Chip and Andy
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Posted: 2006-03-03 09:55 am   Permalink



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caerthe
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Posted: 2006-03-03 10:16 am   Permalink

I concur with Chip and Andy,

Any input, thoughts, etc. from those currently hosting tiki events would be most appreciated.


 
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WooHooWahine
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Posted: 2006-03-03 10:26 am   Permalink

How about instead of writing all about The Perfect Tiki Event; someone should plan the Perfect Tiki Event? Trust Me if You Post it TC'ers will show ~ WooHooo

 
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pappythesailor
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Posted: 2006-03-03 11:23 am   Permalink

Quote:

On 2006-03-03 10:26, WooHooWahine wrote:
How about instead of writing all about The Perfect Tiki Event; someone should plan the Perfect Tiki Event? Trust Me if You Post it TC'ers will show ~ WooHooo



Yeah, caerthe. You axe alot of questions. What's your angle? Are you going to get us all together and make tiki-flavored soylent green?


 
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tikibars
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Posted: 2006-03-03 2:46 pm   Permalink

Quote:

On 2006-03-03 11:23, pappythesailor wrote:
Quote:

On 2006-03-03 10:26, WooHooWahine wrote:
How about instead of writing all about The Perfect Tiki Event; someone should plan the Perfect Tiki Event? Trust Me if You Post it TC'ers will show ~ WooHooo



Yeah, caerthe. You axe a lot of questions. What's your angle? Are you going to get us all together and make tiki-flavored soylent green?



As someone who is quite involved in a lot of Tiki events, I have followed this thread with great interest.

Some of the ideas from caerthe and the people who have responded to his/her posts are great. Some of them are definitely things that Tikikiliki and I have thought of for Hukilau, and I will bet that some of the same ideas are also things that have been suggested during planning meetings for Tiki Crawl, Oasis, Exotica, and all the other annual events.

A lot of the suggestions are for things that already happen regularly at events. I think there has been a fair amount of feedback here on TC about what worked and what didn't.

At least a few of the new suggestions are things that are already slated for Hukilau this year, such as seminars (Jeff Chenault, for example will be doing a panel about Exotica music, and we're going to set up a few more panels for the same afternoon).

To answer WooHoo's question: I think I can speak for all tiki event organizers, past and present, when we say that we all try to make *every* Tiki event "The Perfect" one, but we are working within the constraints of the law, and of cash. It costs a ton of money to make an event happen, and planners have to make vey careful decisions about what to spend money on so that they don't have to completely massacre the attendees with high ticket prices. I think that Mondo Tiki in 2003, various Hukilaus I've been to or worked on, Oasis, and even small region events like Hot Rod Hula Hop in Columbus, are all ALREADY "The Perfect" events - within the constraints of the real world recources that the organizers have to work with.

One example of a great idea that just isn't feasible was having tattoo artists at an event.

I love this idea.

The word 'tattoo' is a Polynesian word, and Polynesian tattoos are among the most intricate and beautiful in the world. I have a few myself, and plan on more. I know a few master tattoo artists who would love to set up shop at a Hukilau or Oasis. BUT - this would be illegal. There are all sorts of laws about where tattooing can happen, and an entire event can get shut down if some cop decides to bust a tattoo artist who didn't go through the considerable legal formalities and expenses to get a permit. So it ain't gonna fly.

There are many other examples of great ideas that we'd love to see but that just won't work for various reasons.

Fire is very hard to get permission for....

So, yeah, we ALWAYS strive for "The Perfect"... but there are obsticles, and there is also the fact that everyone's idea of perfect is different.

Ultimately, if as many members of the ohana as possible can gather in a place that is relaxing and comfortable, and enjoy seeing faces tat we don't get to see nearly often enough... to me, that's all you really need. It's people. The rest is all gravy.

Now, a question for caerthe:
I wonder the same thing as Pappy.
Are you planning an event?
You're asking a LOT of very detailed, very specific, very diverse questions.

Have you been to an Oasis, an Exotica, a Hukilau, a HRHH, a Crawl, a Tabu Tiki Night, or even to one of our ohana's home bars?
If you want to know what makes an event great, come on out to one, meet the 'ohana, make some friends, and you'll learn real fast what makes us tick. I will be first in line to buy you a Zombie, and welcome you to the club. Just friendly advice. And if you've already been out to some events, then I can't wait to see what you're cooking up on your own.

Hmmm... 'cooking'?

Did I say "It's People" that make the events rock?

...with gravy?

Maybe Pappy is right!

Soylent Green!


 
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Humuhumu
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Posted: 2006-03-03 2:51 pm   Permalink

As always, tikibars, well said.


 
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TikiMaxton
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Posted: 2006-03-03 3:06 pm   Permalink

Quote:

On 2006-02-27 21:20, caerthe wrote:

Question for event hosts: Are commemorative mugs really worth all the trouble? I haven't had a tiki mug made and it seems like a considerable amount of time, energy and money to have one created. I'm asking because I'm wondering if a tiki mug is a good source for a secondary revenue to help offset other event expenses.



We provided event mugs for both NW Tiki Crawl 2 and NW Tiki Crawl 3. The #2 mug was an off the shelf mug with a custom decal fired on. The #3 mug was custom designed by our own Tiki Tronic, and we basically learned how to cast, fire and glaze them ourselves. Yes, it was a lot of trouble, but it was definitely worth it. The mugs were beautiful, we got a huge number of compliments on them, they were another source of pride in an event that we were already proud of, they paid for themselves, and they made us enough extra revenue to help seed this year's event. This year's expanded NW Tiki Kon will have a signature mug, and we'll never do another NW event without a signature mug. Worth whatever it takes to make it happen.


 
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caerthe
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Posted: 2006-03-04 03:28 am   Permalink

Hello Tikibars,

You have my gratitude for your post. Some good info and some fair questions.

To give you a little background on myself, my discovery of tiki was completely by accident and though I've come to realize that I've spent large portions of my life around Tiki, I only developed a true passion for it a little over a year ago. My tiki experiences (when not the result of my own efforts) have been far and few between (yet quite excellent) and because of budget and timing, I've enjoyed the events you've mentioned, but only within the pages of tiki magazines, tiki event websites and by viewing conversations of these events on the Tiki Central lists. The area in which I live is almost completely devoid of any tiki and very far from any formal tiki gathering. Though it would greatly sadden my wife, my dog and I to be apart, I do yearn to attend these incredible events and would be willing to sign up for a tiki foreign exchange or tiki "semester at sea" if such were available.

Anyhoo, Tiki within the area I live is struggling, at best. I'm currently endeavoring to assist it's growth in a number of ways and one of those is an event. The reason; however, that no site has been confirmed, date been set or volunteers solicited is because I truly feel that the event has one shot at succeeding. If I rush my attempt and the arrow falls too far from the bullseye, then I think it's unlikely that someone (including myself), will try to hit that target again for many more years. I could be wrong, but since no such action has yet been taken, I don't think I'm incorrect. Therefore, since I've decided upon this course of action, I'm simply gathering as much information as possible before embarking on some of the more daunting facets of such an effort.

One part of my information gathering, so you know, will be attending at least a few of the events mentioned in your post. Ultimately, I won't be able to solely rely on the words of those who have and will hopefully continue to respond to this thread (Thank you all!), I'll need the experiences these grand gatherings offer, first hand. This is crucial. Not only to better know and be a part of this great community, but to better formulate my own approach to the event I wish to host.

Regarding the "Perfect" tiki event. I've been in the event game some time and I've yet to see (at least from a creator's point of view) a perfect event. I know from personal experience that what an event creator hopes to achieve generally differs from the final product. The creator always sees the slightly off angle in the final piece that nobody else does. However, if the final product or event (in this case) is seen as perfect by everyone else, then pass out the champagne (or Mai Tais)! I realize that there can be a great difference between what is desired and what can be realistically achieved. That doesn't mean anyone should stop trying for perfection. In fact, unless I'm mistaken, our tiki heritage is heavily dependent upon the past pursuits of Polynesian pop perfection. The Tikis come to mind as one example. I sorely wish the "if you build it, they will come" analogy was the rule more than the exception. Sadly, this isn't usually the case. Especially in a nearly tiki devoid region, like mine. Therefore, to better strive for tiki perfection, I think we all need to question and re-examine convention on occasion. Sometimes, that means questioning ourselves and others as to what we see as perfect.

Just to be clear, because I think it needs mention, the purpose of this thread is not to nit-pick or degrade current tiki events, it's just to find out what tiki event attendees want to experience, experience differently or experience less of and to explore all of this through discussion. Please know that if this thread or any comments that I have made within it have implied that there is anything wrong with any current tiki event, it was not intentional.

Whew! It's late and I have to work tomorrow. Well, Tikibars, I hope I've adequately answered your questions and given you and everyone else a little insight into who I am and the intent behind this thread. Thank you for the offer of the Zombie (a favorite drink of mine before I even knew it was tiki). When we do have the chance to meet, I'll gladly accept. This has been an excellent exchange.

Hmmmm...zombies.

Zombies like brains and I've been trying to pick all of yours with this thread.

Well, if you're feeling charitable, please send your brains in a sealed, non-returnable container to:

Rob the Zombie
1515 Moose and Squirrel Ave
Frostbite Falls, MN

Mahalo



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caerthe
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Posted: 2006-03-04 03:32 am   Permalink

Question on Tattoos:

Because of the legal ramifications of a Tattoo artist at a tiki event, mentioned by Tikibars, what about Henna?

It's not permanent, but it would last the weekend. I wonder if there's a version that leaves a black stain rather than the orange-ish hue it generally leaves?


 
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mbonga
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Posted: 2006-03-04 04:03 am   Permalink

Quote:

On 2006-03-03 14:46, tikibars wrote:
Fire is very hard to get permission for....



Couldn't such an event be held as a party on private property? I went to a pretty cool drum circle event in Florida once out in the boonies, and we sat around a bonfire and played drums and people were passing the bottle, dogs and kids were walking all around, and people were passing out drunk by the fire. People just brought tents and camped out there and used the house only for the bathroom. If I hadn't caught somebody's virus from the bottle and gotten sick for the next few days, and had some flake forget to pick me up to get there, I would've ordinarily had good memories of the event.


 
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Chip and Andy
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Posted: 2006-03-04 05:20 am   Permalink



[ This Message was edited by: Chip and Andy 2009-06-05 17:31 ]


 
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thejab
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Posted: 2006-03-04 07:03 am   Permalink

More single women!

 
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caerthe
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Posted: 2006-03-04 6:30 pm   Permalink

Well a sharpie would do the trick, but the design would last well beyond a few days.

It would be fun to see the reactions of coworkers on Monday, however.

Does anyone out there have experience with Henna and could lend insight?


 
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