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Buzzy's work: Lasciate ogne speranza, voi ch'intrate
Bruddah Bear
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Posted: 2011-06-10 05:36 am   Permalink

Quote:

On 2011-06-09 11:13, Cammo wrote:
That snake is really scary, Buzz. MadMike's idea that it's probably a genetic freak is creepy as hell too. I'm staying in San Diego.




Okay, education time.

<Herpetologist Mode Activation>

Not necessarily a genetic freak, Cammo. But Mike is correct that cross breedings, correctly termed "intergrades," are not exactly a rare occurrence with many subspecies of Lampropeltis (Kingsnakes and Milksnakes).





From Buzzy's description, and from what I can make out in the photo, I'm betting that the snake in question is some sort of subspecies or intergrade of Lampropeltis getulus (Common Kingsnake), probably just a California Kingsnake with an aberrant pattern and therefore completely harmless to humans. A better pic would help to nail this guy's subspecies down.

Lampropeltis getulus californiae (California Kingsnake) has a very wide range, over most of California (including San Diego), a small portion of Southern Oregon, the South Western third of Nevada, South Western portion of Utah, Western half of Arizona, down into Northern Mexico where the Colorado river meets the Gulf of California and the entire Baja Peninsula.

L. g. californiae's color and pattern variations, just within it's own subspecies, are so numerous it can boggle the mind. There are banded patterns, ringed patterns, striped patterns, spotted patterns, AND to top that all off, combinations of these patterns have occurred. Colors can be black, various shades of brown, white, yellows, sandy colors and even albinism (albeit rarely occurring in the wild) producing a pale almost violet color. Just google or bing for images of Lampropeltis getulus californiae and you'll see what I mean.

Have a look at this guy from the Mojave.



Vs. this guy from Newport/Long Beach area



Vs. this guy from San Diego County



All the same Genus/Species/Subspecies Lampropeltis geulus californiae.


Many other species and subspecies of Lampropeltis' ranges abut or overlap L. g. californiae's range. This is where intergrades can occur. Lampropeltis is a pretty forgiving Genus regarding intergrades between subspecies and the occasional cross-species intergrade. I'm wondering if one of his ancestors may haveintergraded with a subspecies of Lampropeltis zonata (Mountain Kingsnake), L. z. parvirubra (San Bernardino Mountain Kingsnake) is the most likely candidate as it's range is near Mojave.

There is another subspecies or coloration "phase" of Lampropeltis getulus floridana (Florida Kingsnake) known as a "Brooksi" (Golden Phase) that can have patternation and coloring similar to a cornsnake, but California is on the other side of the country from it's range, so I doubt it's one of them. A domesticated specimen may have escaped or (stupidly) been set free. Who knows? I still doubt that's what we're looking at. Here's a pic of a "Brooksi."




All this having been said, it is possible for Lampropeltis and other Genus snakes to crossbreed, I've seen examples online of intentional crossbreeds that professional breeders have made with Kings and Corns, but I doubt that could happen in the Mojave as Cornsnakes aren't in the wilds of California. Again, somebody could have turned one loose or let it escape, but again it's doubtful. But here's pic of a Kingsnake that probably crossed with Pacific Gophersnake in the wild found in Yolo County, Ca.




So maybe an ancestor crossed with a local Gophersnake??? Anyway, here's a page with range maps of snakes in California listed by species with links to pages of example images. See if you can spot your snake.


But the real point I want to make here is that he (or she) is a handy friend to have around. Lampropeltis have demonstrated that they are at least resistant, if not in some situations immune, to the bite of many venomous snakes in their ranges depending on the size of the snakes involved. Lampropeltis is also cannibalistic and has been known to eat other snakes including rattlers, copperheads and water moccasins/cottonmouths (hey Buzzy, how about a cannibal Kingsnake tiki?). They like to eat lizards in the wild, but have been known to eat small birds, bird eggs, and can help keep the rodent population down in rural areas.

Don't mess with them as they can still bite if you try to handle them, they aren't used to it and will consider you a predator, plus they can carry parasites. They also will, as Mike wrote above, mimic behaviors of venomous snakes in their ranges, such as vibrate their tails or even coil like a rattler as a defense against predators, biting is a last resort. Otherwise, they have no reason or desire to bite you as you're way too big for them to eat.

Their fangs are in the back corners of their mouths and are used for shocking their prey with the first hit and then holding onto it while they wrap around it, they have no venom as they are constrictors (they suffocate their prey, squeezing ever tighter every time their prey exhales, further reducing the amount of air it can inhale with each constriction) but a bite needs to be thoroughly cleaned so not to get infected, wild snakes' mouths aren't all that clean (domestic ones either for that matter).

Why do I know all this about Lampropeltis? We used to have a beautiful Kingsnake we raised from a baby. She was a Nigitus or Mexican Black intergrade. Her mother was a pure L. g. nigritus (Mexican Black Kingsnake) that was bred to a male that was an intergrade himself, half L. g. nigritus, half L. g. splendida (Desert Kingsnake). She looked like a Splendida with thin yellow stripes on her back merging into a yellow and black speckled pattern on her sides with a yellow belly when she was hatched. She gradually lost her pattern as she matured, she was almost entirely black at full maturity except for yellow spots on her belly (gift from dad's side of the family) that showed she wasn't pure Nigritus. She grew to over 4 ft long, but due to the size of her tank and her feeding schedule she never got to be her dad's size. He was a big damn snake for a King. BTW, the folks we got our snake from also owned the monitor lizard that was in the movie "The Freshman," she was HUGE.

Anyway, don't be scared of the snake, if it doesn't have a broad flat head and rattle, it's a good guy. Snakes are pretty much misunderstood creatures and many harmless snakes are killed annually by fearful yet uninformed people. Some may be spotted during "Going Primitive" so folks should be clued in to the differences between good and not so good snakes.

<Herpetologist Mode Deactivation>

Sorry for hijacking the thread, Buzzy.

Okay, back to the tikis...





Bear



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tiki tonz
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Posted: 2011-06-10 7:56 pm   Permalink

I think it's a tortle! Buzzy PI, that's classic!!!

 
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Bay Park Buzzy
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Posted: 2011-06-12 11:26 pm   Permalink

I came across the owls sitting on some rocks out in the lake a day or so ago:




Tiki Update:

second guy, second pole mostly blocked out now:



Quote:

On 2011-06-09 11:13, Cammo wrote:
See? All you need is a cardboard box and it's a ZOO.
Time to start charging 25 cents to look at the Desert Tortoise.



I just did some upgrades to his authentic Mojave Desert environment, so I'll be charging fifty cents to see him now. He'll soon be at my new Living Mojave Desert Zoo, located in the corner of Everythings Pistachios(opening soon on the corner of RT 66 and Newberry Rd, in Newberry Springs)

Soon as I catch a rabbit, duck, toad, lizard or something else breathing here, I'll start charging a buck to get in. Legally, how many animals do you need to have to qualify as a real zoo?

Quote:

On 2011-06-09 19:44, MadDogMike wrote:
I suspect Western Box Turtle



I'll go all Mojave Magnum and find out...

Quote:

On 2011-06-10 05:36, Brudda Bear wrote:


Sorry for hijacking the thread, Buzzy.

Bear





Thanks BBear for that post. No problem at all. That was great! I'll try to catch him with a better picture next time I see him. My pop is actually something of a herpetologist. His area is mostly CA and mexican Rosy Boas. He used to have a bunch of banded, striped, and albino Ca kings. Now I think he only has few Grey banded, if he has any of the kings left at all.
A few years ago, I had striped kingsnake that lived in my yard in SD. I'd run into him every few months or so. I also took a few common gopher snakes out of neighbors garages because they knew me as the "snake guy." I guess word got out because I had a couple Coloumbian red tailed boas, a pair of ball pythons, and some Chinese water dragons at the time.


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On 2011-06-10 19:56, tiki tonz wrote:
I think it's a tortle! Buzzy PI, that's classic!!!



and right now, The Mojave Magnum needs to find out what the hell all these animals out here are.


My campaign for Mayor of Newberry Springs begins tomorrow...
Buzzy Out!

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Posted: 2011-06-13 01:22 am   Permalink

Awesome carves per usual Buzzmeister.

GROG put some of your pics in the wildlife thread.
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Cammo
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Posted: 2011-06-15 3:17 pm   Permalink

Sorry, I meant "Cannibal Intergrade of Lampropeltis Getulus California Kingsnake with an Aberrant Pattern". If that was meant to reassure me, it AIN'T WORKIN'!!! (That was an all-time classic post, just kidding.)

Buzzy, 2 animals = 1 Zoo. Just throw an orange-spray-painted rock out into the desert and tell people they have to go to the rock, circle it and come back. It's called "The Desert Trail" and costs only 50 cents added to the Zoo admission.

I never thought Buzzy's thread could get an order of magnitude more interesting, but it's happened...


 
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Bay Park Buzzy
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Posted: 2011-07-08 4:12 pm   Permalink

I'll start off with a san Diego sunset from my recent trip home:


and here's yesterday's from lovely Newberry:


I just got a new camera, so regular updates will commence once again. I haven't got around to taking any tiki pictures yet, so this junk will have to hold you over

Poki started becoming a lake dog recently. Here she is taking a break from the afternoon heat:


I wanted to share some owl photos with owl lovers out there, so I did a search for owl fan sites. I typed in "owl central" and all the links took me to Tiki Central conversations about the mythical owl central. Therefore, by default, Tiki Central has now become the defacto Owl Central. So,...

Here are some new pictures of the owls in the yard:



Since my last post, I had a couple trips back to SD to get some project stuff. I got to hang out at home sweet home for a while. Here's the view as you walk by my front sidewalk:

The big red dog's the new security system there. Right now they're both standing about 5 feet up on my log pile. They both continously bark and howl at anyone who walks by. I notice most people walk across the other side of the street now...


More Later,
Buzzy Out!







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Posted: 2011-07-08 10:36 pm   Permalink

beautiful region where you abit

 
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Bay Park Buzzy
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Posted: 2011-07-10 10:34 am   Permalink

Desert sunset:

We've had the desert version of rainy days here the last 3 days. It's kind of nice because the temp drops from over 100 to the low 90's when it starts.


About 3 weeks ago, the summer kicked in here. It was 108-112 for a week straight. It's a little cooler now, 102-104 in the day, with nighttime lows of about 90. I've been trying to switch to a nocturnal schedule and get work done when it cools off at night.
I installed a shoplight on my back porch to help facilitate my night carving. Here's my 94 degrees at night well lit outside work area:


I'd usually be working on the floor, but the rain got my carpet all wet:


Second pole is rough carved. Bottom right face is now blocked out:


Since this picture was snapped, I did some final adjustments to the one on the left:

A little clean up sanding and it's detail time.

Meanwhile, I picked up the fence bamboo when I was in SD last week:


In owl news, I went to do some lake raking and came across one getting a drink:





Quote:

On 2011-07-08 22:36, eric 21 wrote:
beautiful region where you abit



Yeah, it's pretty here,... pretty HOT!

In other news, it's hot!

See you tonight...
Buzzy Out!


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Posted: 2011-07-10 11:41 am   Permalink

Hey Buzzy I talked to the Horned Toad guy at the San Diego Fair (he does pewter casts of horned toads and is an encyclopedia of HT facts) and he said where you are, you're surrounded by these guys:



They eat about 100 ants a DAY so if you catch one just cage it over an anthill and it'll be real happy.


 
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Posted: 2011-07-10 1:30 pm   Permalink

Buzzy, the new poles you have carved look great. Looks like you have a nice set up there. Keep posting pictures of the place, they are interesting.

 
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Bay Park Buzzy
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Posted: 2011-07-11 10:15 pm   Permalink

Sunset:

It was pleasant today. It barely broke 100.

I got the two hanging tikis sanded and stained:











Now back to the final touches on the other two...


Quote:

On 2011-07-10 11:41, Cammo wrote:
the Horned Toad guy said you are surrounded by these guys...
.... just cage it over an anthill and it'll be real happy.



Haven't seen one since I've been here...
However, the ants here are ready for one if it ever turns up:

I was thinking about mixing up a couple glasses of resin and pour it down that hole to see what's up. Clear resin would show how many I get, too! They did it on a science show once...



Quote:

On 2011-07-10 13:30, hiltiki wrote:
Looks like you have a nice set up there. Keep posting pictures of the place, they are interesting.



Sure thing...

Here's the set up:

I'm in the little house in back


My carving area is on the right side, on that porch:


That's part of the set up, now on to some other interesting stuff around here

The Mermaid Lounge shuttered up, waiting for the next party:


A ceiling full of decor in it:


A closer look at the red globe light...:


and the dove nest above it:

Two babies in it right now, but I'd have to cut the net to get a shot of them. I tried to scare away the dove before it had the eggs, but it kept coming back. She makes a big mess, so I had to cover the bar with scrap wood. Soon as those little birdies are 18 years old in bird years, I'm evicting them and their deadbeat squatter mother!

I went to water the lawn this morning and saw this:

There were two there, but Poki started to go after them and chased both away

And finally, there's a photo contest this month themed "the dog days of summer", so I keep taking pictures of my dog like this:


And in very sad news, my petting zoo closed because the turtle passed away

More tikis interesting desert stuff to come...
Buzzy Out!

















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Posted: 2011-07-11 10:17 pm   Permalink

Aloha Buzz, nice to meet u at caliente. I just moved from Vegas to San Diego. No good palm in Vegas so I used all kind of hardwood there for carving. How long do I have to let this So Cal palm wood dry out? Saw some guys cutting down 2 giant fan palms n they gave me a bunch. Cleaned em, carved a couple, then mold started growing on the bottoms. Not that I can't appreciate the green color, but mold!!!!! Any ideas? Thanx
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Posted: 2011-07-12 9:44 pm   Permalink

Thanx for the PM. C u at oasis! Keep up the good work!!!

 
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Posted: 2011-07-13 1:49 pm   Permalink

I don´t get it. Or I just can´t find, where it is written. Are you on vacation or did you relocate?

 
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Bay Park Buzzy
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Posted: 2011-07-20 11:40 am   Permalink

too many pics on this page already....

Let's meet up again on a fresh page, shall we?
Buzzy Out!


 
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