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The Lurid low-brow Tiki-Art of Brad (tiki-shark) Parker
little lost tiki
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Posted: 2007-04-02 09:43 am   Permalink

So....what Todd Schorr is saying is that an artist doesn't have to be well-read and literate in history and myth and literature,because the viewer ain't never gonna "get it" on that level...Is that what I'm hearing? True, the viewer always creates their own narrative,but the artist should take that and his knowledge and make a painting that appeals to both aspects of them... I think too many artists use mystery and cryptic symbols to confuse the narrative of a painting,because they themselves don't often know what they paint,only what appeals to them and is "cool".Art should be able to be digested by the masses,but should also have some solid reference for the continuation of an intelligent artistic interpretation....its place in Art History...Mystery is good,but you've been failing to tell us the REAL STORY behind this masterwork....Why are you all "Bush Administration" with the scoop?
Sorry...I felt like a Monday Morning rant...Any thoughts?


 
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GROG
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Posted: 2007-04-02 10:24 am   Permalink

Blah, blah, blah, blah. You missed Todd and Brad's point completely. D-

 
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little lost tiki
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Posted: 2007-04-02 10:46 am   Permalink

What were we talking about?
What was the point?


 
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Tiki Shark Art
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Posted: 2007-04-02 1:19 pm   Permalink

First off, I was told, by someone whom I've forgotten, that everything an artist draws or paints is actually a self portrait. So, I guess this is a painting of me. Beyond that, I know that all artist's are greatly effected by their surroundings. After I've moved here to the BI I've gotten a much better look at tropical plants. ( OK my palms trees need work, I know) And, obviously, the cruise ship is from looking out my window: four days out of the week one or another Cruise ship is anchored off Kona Bay. The puppy is a reference to the pet that the lady who commissioned the piece owns. She's an older lady and her life is all about that cute little dog, that barely ever touches the ground, cause she carries it everywhere. Even when she takes it for a walk. I guess, it's actually taking her for a walk then. The painting is called "The Tourist". It was meant as a double meaning. The first meaning is that the puppy is the tourist. It was brought to this tropical paradise by the cruise ship, visited a local exotic place, attended a luau, and it just chowed down in a major way. Everything a "tourist" wants on a vacation. The second meaning is more like "find the tourist in this picture" Well, there's the ship that brought the tourist, there's the exotic local the tourist visited, there's the tourist's dog, and... looks like the locals just had a big cook out of some sort and have all retired to the hut, while their local god watches the puppy clean up the scraps. Hmmm... that bone, looks a bit large for pig. Perhaps "Long Pig"? Well, where is that tourist? That is a mystery! ( and actually, now, I like Professor Grog's explanation better! ) Sorry Ken, I guess there is always gonna be different ways to interpret a painting, but that's the ideas that started the work. I can't actually say they are what it's about now that I've finished it (almost) . BUT, what Todd Schorr said made me think about the tikis and symbols in my paintings. I'm not painting traditional carved Hawaiian Ti'i. Not even close, nor do I want to try. I'm painting symbols from MY understood mythology - Americanized tikis that I saw growing up in the Midwest and California, and much later, the more traditional looking ones I saw in Hawaii. It takes a lot of pressure off me, I thought I had to be part historian on Hawaiian anthropology. Not really, I just have to interpret Hawaiian culture and the world as it sifts through the filter that is my brain, and down out my paint slingers. So the only thing I really have to do is keep slinging paint. Anyways, Let's just hope I can finish it today.......
Thanks for looking!
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little lost tiki
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Posted: 2007-04-02 1:42 pm   Permalink

Hooray!
Finally a rational explanation for that piece!
Your take on the Tiki is totally valid! Polynesian Pop is what drew most of us mainlanders into Oceania! You nail that feeling and more in this piece! And you're totally spot on about some of the personal meanings placed onto objects in the paintings,and how they change and evolve as the piece progresses....Wouldn't mind seeing you tackle a scene/derive inspiration from an Island myth! Your ghost shark made an appearance in one of your earlier Mystic Tiki paintings,would be cool to continue that story! Hope you finish that one today! Then you can bask and relax for a few days while formulating the next eye-popper!


 
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GROG
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Posted: 2007-04-02 2:15 pm   Permalink

GROG liked that the mystery to GROG was whether the little dog ate the tourist or whether the dog was the tourist's dog and the dog is staying with the bone, which is the last remnant of the tourist. Or the dog could even be just a local cute doggy that discovered the remnants of the tourist. Or the dog could BE the tourist and just came upon the remains of the pig/long pig from the luau that just finished. But, to GROG that puppy is just trying to be TOO DAMNED CUTE, so it is obviously trying to appear cute and innocent to hide something. Thus making the evil little dog the obvious killer of the poor tourist whose bone we see, which the dog has not yet disposed of. Any way you look at it, it's damned funny painting and well executed. As Bamboo Ben says, " BRAD ROCKS!!!".

 
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little lost tiki
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Posted: 2007-04-02 2:22 pm   Permalink


Blah! Blah! Blah! GROG liked the mystery...Blah! Blah!
The real mystery is why hasn't anyone executed Ernie....
Maybe the dog is gonna eat Ernie for his way-too-long diatribes!


 
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GROG
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Posted: 2007-04-02 2:26 pm   Permalink

Way too long diatribes? This from a man who writes half a book on his own thread before he posts pictures of his artwork!!

 
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little lost tiki
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Posted: 2007-04-02 2:29 pm   Permalink

Oh ya?
Well your momma!


 
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GROG
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Posted: 2007-04-02 2:33 pm   Permalink

YOUR momma!!




 
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Posted: 2007-04-02 2:47 pm   Permalink

see, I thought the dog came upon the bone and realized that she was the next course for dinner!(with that look on her face~wide eyed and all)... that was the narrative as I see it anyway...

K.


 
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little lost tiki
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Posted: 2007-04-02 2:52 pm   Permalink

don't talk about my momma that way!

 
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Posted: 2007-04-02 2:52 pm   Permalink

Quote:

On 2007-04-02 14:33, GROG wrote:
YOUR momma!!






oh and GROG, don't be sayin' your momma, that's just not right....

it's "yo' momma!" (you sound too white bread the way you were doing it!)
K.


 
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Posted: 2007-04-02 3:02 pm   Permalink

I guess sumbuddies momma is a bitc@!
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