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Pago Pago Bar Next to Disney Studios |
Matterhorn1959
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From: Mile High City
|  Posted: 2006-11-03 06:29 am Permalink
I am looking for any information about the Pago Pago bar that was located across the street from the Walt Disney Studios in the 1940s. It was located on the East Corner of Buena Vista and Alameda. I believe the building is still standing but is now a travel office for the Disney company. Any help or images would be appreciated. Apparently the Pago Pago was the watering hole for the animators.
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GatorRob
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From: 3 hrs 33 mins to paradise
| Posted: 2006-11-03 09:14 am Permalink
Have you checked any of the bios of Ollie Johnston, Frank Thomas, Ward Kimball, etc? Ollie Johnston is the last of the Nine Old Men still living. Maybe try contacting him directly? Also, some years ago I spoke with Michael Broggie (son of Roger Broggie - first Imagineer, before they called them that). He practically grew up on the Disney lot. He later wrote the Disney trains book. You can probably contact him fairly easily. Website is here.
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Humuhumu
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| Posted: 2006-11-03 11:12 am Permalink
I think this is the first I've heard of it, and I'd love to learn more! Where did you learn the little bit you know so far?
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Haole'akamai
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| Posted: 2006-11-03 3:27 pm Permalink
I seem to recall a quick mention in a DiSneyland expose book I'm currently reading. I'll go see if I can find it....
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Matterhorn1959
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From: Mile High City
| Posted: 2006-11-04 3:58 pm Permalink
Thanks for the suggestions all but there is no mention in any of the Disney History books. Most talk about going to the Tam O'Shanter which has a large Disney history attached to it.
Humu- I posted a hand drawn postcard on my blog and received a rather lengthy post explaining all the sights noted on the postcard.
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Humuhumu
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From: San Francisco
| Posted: 2006-11-04 4:31 pm Permalink
Don't know how helpful this will be, but what the hey:
This is a snapshot of a Google maps image of the area. I added the highlights of the Disney Studios, the intersection of Buena Vista & Alameda, and the alley. From the note you received on your blog:
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| The pago pago was the local "studio" bar across the street from the studio East of the corner of Buena Vista St. and Alameda. (even warner bros. had their watering hole as well) Its now an unmarked Disney building that holds the travel office. (If you drove the alley to the pago, one would see all the studio work bikes parked in the alley). |
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Since (s)he says it was across the street from the Studios, east of the Buena Vista & Alameda intersection, and that there was an alley behind it, that seems to narrow it down to five possible buildings (with perhaps those closest to the named intersection the most likely suspects?). Perhaps someone more acquainted with the buildings can tell us more about what's in those buildings today, and if any of them date back to '47? Unfortunately, A9.com yanked their BlockView service a few weeks ago, that would have given us street-level photos of the buildings.
p.s. -- "even warner bros. had their watering hole as well" could possibly be a reference to the China Trader -- that's where the Hawaiian Eye crew hung out when they weren't filming on what I believe was the Warner Bros. lot. Dunno though -- I suppose any bar in the area was a watering hole for people at the studios.
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GatorRob
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From: 3 hrs 33 mins to paradise
| Posted: 2006-11-04 4:48 pm Permalink
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On 2006-11-04 16:31, Humuhumu wrote:
Unfortunately, A9.com yanked their BlockView service a few weeks ago, that would have given us street-level photos of the buildings.
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Well now, that's a bummer. I liked that service and was hoping they'd add more cities.
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TikiPhil
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From: Riverside, CA
| Posted: 2006-11-04 10:41 pm Permalink
Here's that area from http://local.live.com/
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bigbrotiki
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From: Tiki Island, above the Silverlake
| Posted: 2006-11-04 11:53 pm Permalink
Somewhere someone told me that the supposedly the animators had an UNDERGROUND PASSAGE to that bar...which always sounded intriguing, but highly unlikely. The Disney fan lore is sometimes even more "urban myth" inspired than any Tiki stories ever could be.
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Thortiki
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From: Maryland (Land of Pleasant Tiki Living)
| Posted: 2006-11-05 04:36 am Permalink
Interesting post, surfed web everywhere looking for info on Pago Pago Bar. ZIP!!!!
Thortiki
PS This joint must have been fairly short lived IF it did exist
in whatever form. Cool thread topic!
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chisel slinger
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From: columbus,ohio
| Posted: 2006-11-05 05:49 am Permalink
somewhere I have the matchbook from that bar, I'll look around.
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bigbrotiki
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From: Tiki Island, above the Silverlake
| Posted: 2006-11-05 1:09 pm Permalink
I have yet to see any proof of that Burbank one on paper. Might have just been a lowbudge joint with no money for printed paper paraphenalia.
There were several Pago Pago bars in the history of Polynesian Pop, starting in the Pre-Tiki era. There was one in Long Beach, one in Arizona,...where else? Anybody?
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Rum Demon
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From: Portland, Oregon
| Posted: 2006-11-05 2:22 pm Permalink
There was a Pago Pago in Portland, OR. Information on these joints seems pretty hard to come by.
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dogbytes
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From: seattle, wa
| Posted: 2006-11-05 5:00 pm Permalink
Arkiva Tropika has 8 paper items with Pago Pago ~ but nothing for the Calif location..
Puamana ~ anything else in your Arkiva that hasn't yet been posted?
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bigbrotiki
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From: Tiki Island, above the Silverlake
| Posted: 2006-11-06 10:12 am Permalink
Of course! Why look far away when great sources are so nearby. Any Pago Pagos on Critiki? Here's a good one, from Humu's Blog, from the SF airport exhibit:
http://photo.humuhumu.com/v/sfoexhibit/P1020667.JPG.html
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