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stuckieshaft
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Posted: 2006-12-20 10:52 am   Permalink

Avis #1... Ok, then I believe it. If they say so then it must be true.

Obviously its not all about self esteem, avis is a large corportation. For them its about confusing the consumers to make a sell.

When it comes to artists, small business owners, I believe its ego and self esteem which cause self hype. Obvoiusly we all need to make a living and do what ever it takes to attain that grocery money. I just think its sad that so many people fall for the claims that are made to sell somthing.




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stuckieshaft
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Posted: 2006-12-20 11:21 am   Permalink

Teakey,
I got no gripes with you man. I just felt I needed to comment on the whole company/utilitarian/artist thing.
I just think the perception of what art is here in the States is wrong. Ceramics get a bad rap, here its basically just seen as a "craft", no where near the prestige of paint on canvas.
Often I see myself getting put into the Manufacturer category and not the artist category. I create originals and duplicates just the same as other artists. I don't see how a painter having prints made is any different.


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nitropic
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From: MA
Posted: 2006-12-20 11:33 am   Permalink

Wouldn't our mugs all be better served
If we spent more time drinking from them
Than thinking of them?


 
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teaKEY
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Joined: Nov 09, 2004
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From: The thumb !
Posted: 2006-12-20 3:30 pm   Permalink

"Wouldn't our mugs all be better served
If we spent more time drinking from them
Than thinking of them?"

That would be good for most people but bad for the like of say Munktiki, just to throw out a example.

I don't know how many hours I have in thinking tiki/ tiki mugs, but only an hour and a half tops in the drinking department. Drinking tiki drinks that is. More time drinking other non-tiki drinks from tiki mug though.


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pdrake
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From: las vegas
Posted: 2006-12-20 4:02 pm   Permalink

man, you spend a lot more time thinking about this than i would ever want to.

 
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Turbogod
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Posted: 2006-12-20 8:06 pm   Permalink

I concur.

 
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TikiLaLe
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From: Largo, Floriduh
Posted: 2006-12-20 9:12 pm   Permalink

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On 2006-12-20 10:52, stuckieshaft wrote:
Avis #1... Ok, then I believe it. If they say so then it must be true.

Obviously its not all about self esteem, avis is a large corportation. For them its about confusing the consumers to make a sell.

When it comes to artists, small business owners, I believe its ego and self esteem which cause self hype. Obvoiusly we all need to make a living and do what ever it takes to attain that grocery money. I just think its sad that so many people fall for the claims that are made to sell somthing.


Mr Stuckie needs a VACATION !!!!!!


















 
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Kon-Hemsby
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From: Andover, England
Posted: 2006-12-21 05:03 am   Permalink

Stuckie simply designs and makes fantastic mugs. Keep up the amazing work.

And I concur, let's use and enjoy the mugs and stop being so precious about them.

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stuckieshaft
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Posted: 2006-12-21 3:33 pm   Permalink

Yes, I do need a vacation. The holidays are bummin me out! Only 3 more days and Im in Vegas!

 
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teaKEY
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From: The thumb !
Posted: 2006-12-21 5:29 pm   Permalink

"I just think the perception of what art is here in the States is wrong. Ceramics get a bad rap, here its basically just seen as a "craft", no where near the prestige of paint on canvas - Stuckie"

Ture. I was been thinking of this a lot. In the Tiki Art Shows, a painting by a unknown artist or a quick painting will fetch least a starting price of around 300 maybe alittle less. As high as $8,000. This is gallery prices but still the work in the paint isn't anymore better than a original design sculpture or mug.

I think that it has a lot to do with, a mug is just something you drink with or a collector piece but not art. Its true that tiki mugs are collection items and drinking mugs but they very much could be art and should be art, if that is its purpose. Would I buy a $300 painting, did, and would I buy a $300 coffee mug, no. Would I spend more if that mug was an equally nice piece as the painting and was art in itself, yes.

I always try to crack what art is. I say, it has a lot to do with the artist. If the piece is an progression of thought with many overcome paths to lead down to the most meaningful expression one can produce, its art.
Is it a Bob Ross painting, does that fit the above idea, not to me it doesn't, that is a craft. If you can make it without the act of thinking, craft.

For me, its a journey, a love affair with the object, getting whats in my head out in the best way. I find it a spiritual act, being in the moment, finding the answers, and leaving with a higher being.

And now, to add to what Capo said that he doesn't get to always do his best work cause no one is willing to pay for it. I would like to see the art of tiki elevated but is the a market there for the mugs.

I see that Munktiki just made their Kustom ordered mugs. Two have came out so far and the points that they connect, is an awesome line. Not that a custom mug could be made but that a Brand Name can make your ideas and different form someone else is a radial idea. I see the level of tiki mugs being elevated and is going to make the rest of us push higher or fall behind.
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teaKEY
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From: The thumb !
Posted: 2007-01-25 11:58 am   Permalink




Love these new Kustomas. I am always impressed and wondering what the next ones will be. Both from what people wanted and what Munktiki created. Two TCers have posted three mugs and two TCers a mug apiece. I heard that there are more out there that haven't made it out to there owners so there is still more ideas that have to be made. Its going to get hard to have something new each time and still carry on with creating new in all the other mugs MUnk makes.

I would say that if I could have one of KTD it would be the Gorilla and if I could have one of Tiki Kate it would be probably the Bastard Bob, just cause I don't have a Bob, and the two members are similarly different. Are equal different from anything else and still have the tie.
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Tiki-Kate
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Posted: 2007-01-25 2:30 pm   Permalink

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I would say that if I could have one of KTD it would be the Gorilla and if I could have one of Tiki Kate it would be probably the Bastard Bob, just cause I don't have a Bob, and the two members are similarly different. Are equal different from anything else and still have the tie.




Umm. Those aren't mine. Munktiki mugs (although they have a swell style) tend to scare me. That's why I only own a handful of them. If you click the Munktiki tag on my collection, you'll notice that I only tend to buy the really cute ones.
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teaKEY
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From: The thumb !
Posted: 2007-01-25 3:09 pm   Permalink

Opps, I didn't mean to put the massive collector with a Chicks name like Kate when I meant to put the other Large Collector of fine mugs, AtomicChick. Of both collections I would trade mine for.
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teaKEY
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Posted: 2007-02-28 08:00 am   Permalink

I must say, It seems like Munktiki found their new glaze. I think it the new miracle glaze that's all the rage.

Know which one I'm talking about. Its the brown Earthy color. Ten Kustomas have been publicly displayed. The eight above and two on Ebay -One currently selling. Of the ten (which are ten totally new designs for Munktiki) eight have that Earthy brown. 9 out of the 10 have brown as part of the color, and the green one not mentioned is Earthy green.
Munktiki's new page on there site, shows this new Kustomas that is on Ebay, then its followed by a coconut bowl with the earthy brown volcanio center, followed by there new New Zealand Ebay mug, in that same Earthy matte brown, and then at the bottom, is a Monkey stacking set all done up in the same browns.

I think that Munktiki found there new favorite glaze. A glaze that I have yet to work with, but would love on my next mug. Its almost going back to a more simpler/ rustic time using that glaze.

Gecko even pulls that glaze out when he wants to wow he crowd. Gecko's shiny brown Pele's mouth, (got one, ok, got three) is cool, but put that earthy brown matte glaze over it (artist proof) and everyone knows its going that extra mile.

Maybe its a respectful glance back at the past. Maybe its saying enough with Target and cheap plastic travel cups. I know that there will always be a place for colorful mugs, cause after too many browns we want the rainbow back but maybe Treasurecraft just knew something that we are rediscovering again and again today and tomorrow.
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GO TIKI
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Joined: Feb 21, 2004
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From: SURF CITY HUNTINGTON BEACH
Posted: 2007-03-01 6:42 pm   Permalink

Tiki Ashtray, I can mold a bunch of ashtrays, Not of my own design, but from a Duncan 1960's mold, so like new, but old school. If all you want me to?



It's cool that I'm not on the list of making Tiki Mugs and Art but, My "Mambo Loves Tiki" mug will be ready soon:
http://www.tikiroom.com/tikicentral/bb/viewtopic.php?topic=22879&forum=18&4&PHPSESSID=e7cfc34b147513a79f0944d4497610ec

Past Tiki Mugs
http://www.ooga-mooga.com/cgi-bin/all/collection.cgi?mode=gallery&user_id=347


GOTIKI



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