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teaKEY
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From: The thumb !
|  Posted: 2007-03-24 5:40 pm Permalink
"I am currently looking for that spirit" -BigBro
Big Bro, I think that you will see what you are talking about. I think their will be both kinds. Most of the Tiki Farm winners were traditional.
As for your spirit, I found him.
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morbidboy
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Joined: Jan 22, 2007
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From: Minneapolis, MN
| Posted: 2007-03-24 5:43 pm Permalink
cool
THANKS NOTCH
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morbidboy
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Posts: 56
From: Minneapolis, MN
| Posted: 2007-03-24 5:53 pm Permalink
... I think the only mug that I have that comes close to a traditional mug is my Cheeseburger in Paradise one.
My brother is big on collecting the traditional, while I like the wacky/odd/monsteroius type of mug. Speaking of which, I'm hoping that after my brother and I are finished reinoventing our house (inherited a small 1930's spanish tile home. It needs work.), we'll start on working on our tiki mugs. I got some good wacky designs while my brother has been cranking out all kinds of traditional stuff... too many drawings to count. I'm hoping with some reseach, sculpting fun, and my past experience in Special effects mold making, we'll have a mug or two ready by 2008 (ish)...
Fingers crossed!
[ This Message was edited by: morbidboy 2007-03-24 17:59 ]
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Tiki Diablo
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Joined: Jun 24, 2002
Posts: 1890
From: socal
| Posted: 2007-03-24 10:44 pm Permalink
Sven, the gauntlet has been thrown down. I will try to do us proud with future carvings. Yeah, i feel it is time for me to grow as an artist. Crazy Al and I had a good talk a few weeks back about the newer carvers keeping us on our toes.
I told him it was my time to go like gang busters like I did when I first started.
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GROG
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Joined: Jun 21, 2006
Posts: 6195
From: Tujunga
| Posted: 2007-03-24 10:48 pm Permalink
GROG looking forward to seeing what you produce Dablo Dude. Your stuff is always top-shelf.
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Unga Bunga
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Joined: Jun 06, 2003
Posts: 5734
From: CaliTikifornia
| Posted: 2007-03-24 11:47 pm Permalink
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On 2007-03-22 12:37, teaKEY wrote:
Not straight tiki but a straight tiki mug.
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It's a great looking "Viva Las Vegas" mug.
(I still have some Country Bear Jamboree memories in me)
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TIKIBOSKO
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Joined: Oct 17, 2004
Posts: 297 | Posted: 2007-03-25 10:25 pm Permalink
When I originally saw Sven’s post my first thought was; finally someone is addressing THE issue and my second was he is going to kill this thread because no one will respond to all this harshness. But it is a genuinely important subject if you are really into Tiki and maybe (HINT) this should be a thread all its own instead of hijacking this one.
That having been said, when I first met Sven he really stressed the importance of knowing all the original styles, imbuing the idol with mana and taking off on your own path. It’s the mana part that I think many are missing and it is not a tongue in cheek type phrase. All great carvings have a depth or energy all their own, the Polynesians were the only “primitive” culture that I know of to have this concept. When creating a piece it is not about putting something in, it’s about bringing something out. When you look at a true carving it has a feeling like the thing inside can’t be contained by the material, but when you see a bad copy it just lays flat, it lacks something you can’t put your finger on. All the pieces that should be there are, after all it still looks “nice”. There are very seemingly simple or crude carvings which can convey volumes when you look at them, but the more you look the more complex they become.
Also this is not to suggest slavishly copying an original, those pieces usually look quite stiff or uninspired, no matter how well they are technically. If you understand the idea you are after often it can be done with a few quick lines, there is a vitality that is hard to explain in these pieces.
The ideal is taking a concept to the next level not just making changes just for the sake of change, or because it would look cooler with bigger teeth, three eyes, a mile of tattoos or more whatever.
The future of Tiki depends on you so go make something good, no pressure.
My very best alohas,
Bosko
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Tiki Diablo
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Posts: 1890
From: socal
| Posted: 2007-03-25 11:04 pm Permalink
Hanford/ Michelle , can we get Sven's post moved to a new thread. This stuff is important to the quality of our tiki future. Bosko, you are true artist. Well said! This is a post we all need to discuss and not sugar coat.
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RevBambooBen
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From: Huntikington Beach
| Posted: 2007-03-25 11:15 pm Permalink
Or better yet........move the VLV mug to Beyond Tiki?
( if it ain't got tiki in it, it ain't tiki???)
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morbidboy
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Joined: Jan 22, 2007
Posts: 56
From: Minneapolis, MN
| Posted: 2007-03-25 11:15 pm Permalink
all I wanted was to get one of these mugs, not everyone to get on their soapbox about what "style" is truly better...
If you like traditional design mugs, thats cool
If you like contemporary design mugs, thats cool
if you like either or both, because of the time, thought, and effort that goes into each design, that's cool too.
but if you want to show you appreciation for either (or both) then show your support and buy the mugs that you like, instead of wasting time trying to big the biggest bully in the schoolyard.
There's enough art and style for all of us to share!
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RevBambooBen
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From: Huntikington Beach
| Posted: 2007-03-25 11:20 pm Permalink
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On 2007-03-25 23:15, morbidboy wrote:
all I wanted was to get one of these mugs, not everyone to get on their soapbox about what "style" is truly better...
If you like traditional design mugs, thats cool
If you like contemporary design mugs, thats cool
if you like either or both, because of the time, thought, and effort that goes into each design, that's cool too.
but if you want to show you appreciation for either (or both) then show your support and buy the mugs that you like, instead of wasting time trying to big the biggest bully in the schoolyard.
There's enough art and style for all of us to share!
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Blah blah Blah.
you're missing the point!
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morbidboy
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From: Minneapolis, MN
| Posted: 2007-03-25 11:27 pm Permalink
Anyways, if you guys happen to go to Viva Las Vegas10, please try to pick me up a mug.
Thanks!
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RevBambooBen
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From: Huntikington Beach
| Posted: 2007-03-26 12:03 am Permalink
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On 2007-03-25 23:27, morbidboy wrote:
Anyways, if you guys happen to go to Viva Las Vegas10, please try to pick me up a mug.
Thanks!
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Classic reply!
LOL!!!
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TikiLaLe
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Joined: Feb 09, 2006
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From: Largo, Floriduh
| Posted: 2007-03-26 08:28 am Permalink
Nothing gets the 'TC' girls more excited then talking about mugs !!!
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Tom Slick
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Joined: Aug 26, 2005
Posts: 1083
From: The Beaches of South Bay, SoCal
| Posted: 2007-03-28 09:15 am Permalink
It is an important topic in itself,so i created a link below as in hopes NOT to derail this thread any longer. Morbid just wants a VLV mug, thats all this topic was about. So I posted images and hope that Sven, BBen, Bosko, Danny and everyone else interested can add information in a positive on-track thread. You guys are all a wealth of knowledge, and I'd hate to see it wasted in this thread. So if you would, click the link below and see some of the images from a book auction i found. Besides, technically the title of topic says Viva Las vegas Mug...And the mug itself, based on design factors would fall into the Kustom Kulture realm, making it a Kustom Kulture mug...Now, there is
a parallel between tiki and kustom kulture,but they are completely 2 seperate entities...
And sorry Morbid...alot of us at TC have a tendancy here to veer the original subjects off of the original topic. I hope you get your mug...
Go here if you want to discuss OA/Polynesian Culture/Art
NEW OCEANIC/POLYNESIAN CULTURE ART TOPIC
[ This Message was edited by: Tom Slick 2007-03-28 11:11 ]
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