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Clay Jams - Cannibal Bunnies - Mojave Mug 2012 - pg. 85
Tiki Kaimuki
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Posted: 2008-05-01 07:48 am   Permalink

Looking great! The slow drying and the bisque firing is that crucial scary part. I've filed the sand idea in my brain for future use on larger pieces. Good luck on the bisque!

 
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Kahu
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Posted: 2008-05-01 12:04 pm   Permalink

Man that is just an amazing piece to look upon!

 
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VanTiki
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Posted: 2008-05-01 1:48 pm   Permalink

Love this thread!

Babalu - a question about the sand. I've been wanting to do this to avoid splitting on the bottom of my mugs (which can get rather heavy), but I have a few questions. First - what kind of sand do you use? And I am guessing it bonds with the clay - do you then sand it off after the firing? And finally, do you use the sand on both the bisque and the glaze firing? A big mahalo for sharing your knowledge with the TC gang!

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Babalu
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From: Lemon Grove
Posted: 2008-05-01 3:59 pm   Permalink

Why thanks Kaimuki and Kahu!

Hey Henrik, For the bisque firing, I'm firing to cone 04. I can get away with using regular ole play sand under the work at this temperature. I won't need sand for the glaze firing as I will only be firing to cone 06 (not as hot as cone 04). However, If I remember right you are low firing your bisque, and then taking your glaze firing up to cone 6...is that right? If so, your work will still continue to shrink in the glaze firing. I would use silica sand, or grog (finely ground bisque clay) in the glaze firing instead of the play sand. Both of these can most likely be purchased where you are buying your clay. You should not see any fusing of the sand to the bottom of the work. Always keep a nice layer of kiln wash on your kiln shelves..I have to rewash mine now, it's been awhile...Hope all this helps. Man, those last 2 mugs of yours are to die for


 
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Robin
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Posted: 2008-05-01 7:40 pm   Permalink

Welcome home Babalu. Great to see more progress on your magnificent bowl.....and the no cracking report is really good news. That sloooooow drying is the ticket eh?

 
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Babalu
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From: Lemon Grove
Posted: 2008-05-01 10:36 pm   Permalink

Hey Robin...whoa, is it nice to be back!

I might have let this bowl dry out a little quicker, but I knew I still needed to build the bird heads when I got back from the trip so I wrapped her up tight before I left. She seems to be drying out pretty evenly. Honestly, I have no clue how this low fire clay will react to this design? If I were using the cone 6 clay with grog, that I normally use for sculpture, there would be no worries.

For those of you that might be following along that don't understand the whole drying out thing that Robin and I are talking about...

When you make something out of clay that has areas that are thicker than other areas, the thinner areas will tend to dry faster than the thicker areas do. The thin area shrinks..the thick area does not...this causes cracking in the clay. If you dry the piece out slowly the work will dry more evenly. The more sculptural clays with grog or sand in them tend to be much more forgiving with the whole thick and thin area thing.







 
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Babalu
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From: Lemon Grove
Posted: 2008-05-05 8:23 pm   Permalink

Didn't have the chance to touch this for a couple of days...third head done Kelly..only one more to go...she's drying up nicely now.





 
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harro
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From: Australia / Argentina
Posted: 2008-05-06 07:28 am   Permalink

Wow babs this is one monster of a project!! This thing is humungous.

How is it going to function once its all done? Its like a big bowl, with 4 receptacles (?) with lids... scuse my ignorance but i'm confused...!! I can just picture a circle of people staring at it full of a tasty tropical libation and tripping over themselves trying to get at it first!

good luck with finishing it all off.


 
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Robin
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Posted: 2008-05-06 10:23 am   Permalink

Hey Babs...I love the way the heads turn in different directions. What a great looking piece...it just keeps getting better and better.

I've built larger slab work with this clay, and it was tricky. I could get this clay with grog, but it left to much grit on the surface, and with translucent glazes, you could sometimes see it. I sometimes would wedge fine white sand into it to add strength and that was better. Seems to me you're pulling out all the stops to get this one through the process.....my feeling is that the kiln gods and goddesses are with you.

Beautiful piece.....


 
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Hiphipahula
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Posted: 2008-05-06 10:24 am   Permalink

The heads look great Babalu! really looks awesome & I'm pretty sure I know where your going??????
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Clarita
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Posted: 2008-05-09 08:14 am   Permalink

She is Amazing Babalu!! I have my fingers crossed to the drying and firing gods !
I thought the heads were going to be removable but now i see that they are hollow too, so you can pass the straws thru them too! Spectacular!!
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Babalu
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From: Lemon Grove
Posted: 2008-05-11 08:45 am   Permalink

The sculptural part of this bowl is done. The bowl is in a nice leather hard state right now...time to pick up the pace and dry it out faster. Thanks Robin for pointing out to me to finish drying it in the kiln...good idea.

Harro - Thanks for bouncing in! Big project for me, but lot's of fun

Robin - Hey, hey Mudslinger & Rock Muncher!...This clay has a little grog in it, but not enough to screw with those 06 glazes. It sure would be much stronger and more sculptural if I would have wedged a little sand into it, but I think your right...those gritty looking areas just don't cut it with the translucent glazes. It's not to bad with the more opaque 06 glazes. I guess I've just rounded first and headed towards 2nd on this here bowlie.

Clarita - Thank you C..It should hold enough liquor to make a moose mumble.

Hey Kel,

Sorry for the confusion, here is how I made this party bowl of yours to work. You get the fun task of figuring out the drink recipes Hope you like where this guy has gone...I know it just kind of took off and went where it was going to go.



















 
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congatiki
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Posted: 2008-05-11 10:26 am   Permalink

That is a beautiful piece of work Babalu, I can't wait to see this one
finished. A party bowl for the ages.


 
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Robin
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From: where the road and the sky collide
Posted: 2008-05-12 10:39 am   Permalink

Oh My! It is fabulous Babalu. The crowd roars as the runner heads to second!

"Thanks for pointing out to me to finish drying it in the kiln..."

Hard lessons won....leather hard clay is so tough, and bone dry so fragile.

Thanks for letting me be part of this...you're an expert handbuilder, clay guy, artist, carver...quite a repertoire...oh yeah...and mold maker! You really know your stuff...and it sure is fun for me to watch and learn....rock on Babs!


 
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Cammo
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From: San Diego
Posted: 2008-05-12 5:48 pm   Permalink

Freakin' unbelievable. The showstopper of showstoppers. People will stare at this in a museum 2000 years from now as the only example of true intelligence in the 21st century.

Fire that sucka!


 
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