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Change in TV Passion Fruit Syrup???
SuperEight
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From: Palo Alto
Posted: 2010-05-12 02:06 am   Permalink

I met Auntie last summer on my trip to Kauai. Very nice lady. I kept telling her that she has a devoted following on Tiki Central and she told me that been on here once or twice. I actually don't think she set out to make a cocktail syrup. It just ended up being used that way. It was probably intended for pancakes. By the way, her Wasabi Passion Fruit Mustard is delicious.

 
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Chinarose
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From: Portland, OR
Posted: 2010-05-15 1:55 pm   Permalink

I found a passion fruit concentrate at a local Asian market. It was called simply "Passion Juice". The flavor is fabulous -- real passionfruit concentrate mixed with sugar. It's very strong (the directions say to dilute 1:6 with water to make a juice drink). I may cut it with a little regular simple syrup next time because it is so intensely concentrated.
edited to add: I should mention that I paid $5.99 for a 28 oz bottle. It made a hell of a drink once I cut it with a some regular simple syrup. 1:1 passion juice concentrate to simple syrup. I tried it in a Hurricane (2 parts dark rum, 1 part lemon juice, 1 part passion fruit syrup). It made a fantastic drink!




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Chinarose
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Posted: 2010-05-15 6:47 pm   Permalink

Just in case anyone was wondering if this is a quality product or not, I thought I'd post the information from the back of the bottle to put your minds at ease (the typos, strange punctuation, grammatical errors and misspellings are not mine):

"PASSION JUICE

The sap is condensed from fresh and pure passion fruit. As passion fruit is rich in fragrance which is the best beverage refined from pure sugar and guaranteed no artificial pigment.

Drinking method is as follows : please pour six times of ice water or hot boiled water and it's flavor is excellent.

The juice is pure. Any sign of separation does not affect the quality.just shake and drink.

Ingredients:Pure passion juice.suger.

HONORABLY PRODUCED BY YUN CHEN CO., LTD."


 
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MrBaliHai
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Posted: 2010-05-21 5:12 pm   Permalink

Sweet Pele forgive me. I was dyin' for a Chief Lapu Lapu tonight, and I didn't have any Final Call passionfruit syrup left, so I broke out one of the bottles of Vic's that I've been sitting on for the past 18 months, refusing to use. Boy, do I regret it. The swill tastes like cough syrup. I totally wasted an ounce of 12-year Appleton, and 1 1/2-ounces of Barrelito making a totally undrinkable concoction that I wouldn't pour out on the weeds in my yard. I'll be doing penance tomorrow by making a pilgrimage to our local Supermercado and buying a couple of packages of frozen passionfruit pulp, then cooking up a batch of homemade syrup.

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Dapuma1
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Posted: 2010-05-22 09:22 am   Permalink

aunties makes a mean puka punch, must tone down the syrup .25



 
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Trader Tiki
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From: Portland, OR
Posted: 2010-05-24 06:22 am   Permalink

Yes, I'm pitching. I can't help but be excited to put a good product out.

Anyhow, I've got a Passion Fruit Syrup coming out that'll knock your socks off. It's available
online now!

I am putting this product out because I WANT good Passion Fruit Syrup on the market. No more trips to asian grocery stores, or taking this one product someone makes and reducing/modifying it. This is real-deal good stuff too. 4 ingredients: Sugar, water, Passion Fruit Concentrate (passion fruit juice boiled down... REALLY tarts it up!) and Guar Gum to hold the particulate in suspension, as the concentrate also contains a bit of pulp.

Anyhow, just thought I'd throw that out there on this thread. If you've got any local stores you'd like to see carrying it, send them my way.

-B

--edited to update URL for Passion Fruit Syrup
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Dapuma1
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Posted: 2010-05-28 07:26 am   Permalink

i have aunt liloki's syrup but it keeps overpowering my drinks

does anyone know approximatly how much i should cut the recipe by using her syrup

still makes a good drink a but a bit to sweet and too passion-y (if that is even a real word)



 
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The Gnomon
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Posted: 2010-05-28 09:41 am   Permalink

Quote:

On 2010-05-28 07:26, Dapuma1 wrote:
i have aunt liloki's syrup but it keeps overpowering my drinks

does anyone know approximatly how much i should cut the recipe by using her syrup

still makes a good drink a but a bit to sweet and too passion-y (if that is even a real word)





Though it is the best storebought I've found, Aunty's is on the sweet side. There are two approaches to take when making drinks:
1. If the recipe calls for RCS or simple syrup, you can pretty much just leave that out.
2. Modify the Aunty PF syrup.

If you reduce the amounts or leave out other syrups, the flavor is bound to change. If you leave out the Curaçao, for example, you'll have to replace it with something that retains the intense orange peel flavor with something else (such as orange zest). If you leave out the orgeat, well, you're rather screwed, because you'll have to replace it with the subtle flavors of almond, rose water, and orange blossom water. Leaving out RCS or simple syrup is the only one that does not require flavor enhancements as long as your RCS is not made to impart sugar flavors (mine has a turbinado flavor).

Possibly the easiest way to do the second approach is to order a bottle of Aunty PF juice when you get the PF syrup. Then you can add juice to the syrup until it reaches the right sweetness. As for the passiony effect, it should get even stronger, but in the absence of excessive sweetness, you might find its passiony nature to be just right.


 
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Dapuma1
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Posted: 2010-05-28 09:56 am   Permalink

I guess my question is more along the lines of...am i getting too much sweetness (which i am certainly) but also am i getting two much passion fruit flavor...i dont have anything to compare it to, so it is hard to try to "balance" the flavor when i dont have a benchmark

i was thinking about reducing the amount by 1/4 to 1/2 -- but it is hard to say where that line is...


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Quote:

On 2010-05-28 07:26, Dapuma1 wrote:
i have aunt liloki's syrup but it keeps overpowering my drinks

does anyone know approximatly how much i should cut the recipe by using her syrup

still makes a good drink a but a bit to sweet and too passion-y (if that is even a real word)





Though it is the best storebought I've found, Aunty's is on the sweet side. There are two approaches to take when making drinks:
1. If the recipe calls for RCS or simple syrup, you can pretty much just leave that out.
2. Modify the Aunty PF syrup.

If you reduce the amounts or leave out other syrups, the flavor is bound to change. If you leave out the Curaçao, for example, you'll have to replace it with something that retains the intense orange peel flavor with something else (such as orange zest). If you leave out the orgeat, well, you're rather screwed, because you'll have to replace it with the subtle flavors of almond, rose water, and orange blossom water. Leaving out RCS or simple syrup is the only one that does not require flavor enhancements as long as your RCS is not made to impart sugar flavors (mine has a turbinado flavor).

Possibly the easiest way to do the second approach is to order a bottle of Aunty PF juice when you get the PF syrup. Then you can add juice to the syrup until it reaches the right sweetness. As for the passiony effect, it should get even stronger, but in the absence of excessive sweetness, you might find its passiony nature to be just right.



 
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CheekyGirl
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Posted: 2010-06-01 11:34 pm   Permalink

You got to refrigerate any of the TV's Passionfruit bottles that still contain the juice. Only way to keep it fresh.
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Swanky
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Posted: 2010-06-02 08:57 am   Permalink

I just cut the PFS by about a quarter when using Aunty's stuff. Compared to TV, I think that gets it about right. Compared to the others... I don't know. All I have is Torani and it just sucks. Way too sweet and wrong.
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rt_tiki
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Posted: 2010-06-24 1:36 pm   Permalink

Trader, wow, finally a passion syrup by someone that knows what we need! I'm in the Chicago area, and for some reason NOBODY carries passion fruit pulp. Nobody. There's obviously a sizable Hispanic population in Chicago, but I'm lucky to find Goya PF juice in Latin markets around here, only in one that I know of and it's not close. So I've been boiling that down and making the best syrup I can possibly get, but it's obviously not as good as with pulp.

Question-what's the shelf life or refrigerated life of your bottle of syrup? While I'd love to, and probably could if I tried, go through that bottle in two weeks, I'd be closer to tiki-drinking myself to death than I already am.

Thanks!


 
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Trader Tiki
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Posted: 2010-06-25 1:34 pm   Permalink

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On 2010-06-24 13:36, rt_tiki wrote:
Trader, wow, finally a passion syrup by someone that knows what we need!

Question-what's the shelf life or refrigerated life of your bottle of syrup?



Hi rt_tiki,

my syrup actually does contain a limited amount of pulp, but it's a light pulp and enough for texture, not flossing your teeth. Shelf life is 6 months unopened, refrigerated and open, a good month or so. No preservatives are artificial ingredients. Heck, the only things in there are sugar, water, passion fruit concentrate (passion fruit juice boiled down) and a bit of guar gum to keep it from separating.

Some folks have taken to adding a wee bit of high proof rum to it to improve opened shelf-life. But you have to be wary when serving as non-alcoholic then.

Anyhow, the passion fruit is available, and is damned delicious if I do say so myself. I put it out there because I couldn't find good stuff myself, and figured someone has to, so why not me? It's not available in Chicago except for online (
available here), but if you wanted to stop by Drinks over Dearborn and poke Kyle in the ribs, I'm sure he'd carry them.

-Blair
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mangrovemike
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Posted: 2010-06-25 4:35 pm   Permalink

Having started this post, I am pleased to see the continued interest. I too found the Aunty's sweeter than the original TV and of course infinitely more acceptable than the revised TV junk. I have also adjusted my recipes to compensate for the increased sweetness. I have found their is no exact 'adjustment'. Rather, I insist on multiple tests (in other words, drinks) to determine what I like and what I think my guests will like. I know that each of my guests likes a different tartness, level of alcohol, etc. My 'experiments' have shown that some recipes are too sweet, some recipes are so tart that you cannot add enough Aunty's and others are just right...........

Anyway, I believe the fun is finding what works for you and the receipients of your handiwork.


 
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amybean
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Posted: 2010-10-03 11:34 am   Permalink

Just ordered some Aunty's PF juice. The syrup sounded too sweet. Will let you know how it works out.

 
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