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Change in TV Passion Fruit Syrup???
Haole'akamai
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Posted: 2007-07-11 2:22 pm   Permalink

Are we talkin' Monin Passion Fruit or Monin Passion Fruit, red?
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Koolau
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Posted: 2007-07-11 11:19 pm   Permalink

The Monin bottle I have is glass, 750 ml, and just says "Passion Fruit". The contents are pretty thick, and a golden color.

This was the only Passion Fruit syrup I could find here locally; I bought the TV passion fruit syrup on a mainland trip. I was making "Beachbum's Owns" for friends, and made sure to use the TV "good stuff" for them. When I finally got around to making one for myself, one taste and I thought "what the hells wrong with this drink?" The only difference was the passion fruit syrup I was using.

Maybe it was a matter of what I was used to, but I think the Monin makes better drinks.


 
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Posted: 2007-07-12 12:50 am   Permalink

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On 2007-07-11 14:22, Haole'akamai wrote:
Are we talkin' Monin Passion Fruit or Monin Passion Fruit, red?





The standard one. I wasn't even aware that there also was a red one.
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Haole'akamai
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Posted: 2007-07-12 10:13 am   Permalink

yeah, I saw on the Monin webiste you can get either.

I wonder if the only difference is the red color between the two?


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Quince_at_Dannys
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Posted: 2007-07-12 10:36 am   Permalink

To each his own, but personally I do not care for the Monin syrup at all. Maybe it's because I'm accustomed to the old Vic's formula, but I find the Monin to have a really weird overpowering taste that ruins a drink. I didn't think it tasted like passion fruit, but rather a really heady orange-flavored perfume. I bought two bottles a while back, ended up dumping most of one of them down the drain and the other one is collecting dust on my shelf. Lots of people love the stuff and it is all-natural, but be warned that it does not taste anything like the (old) Trader Vic's stuff. Just thought I'd throw that out there before somebody goes and orders a case without trying it first...

I'm definitely an advocate of the Aunty Lilikoi. And writing letters to TV corporate demanding they bring back the old formula.


 
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Haole'akamai
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Posted: 2007-07-12 11:33 am   Permalink

I just have to say I'm really REALLY enjoying this thread. The differing opinions are really exciting and interesting.


I want to invite everyone over to Hinky Drinks at Lund Manor and have a Passion Fruit Syrup Taste-off!
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Posted: 2007-07-12 1:53 pm   Permalink

One discussef in another thread that I like is Kukoi brand Passion Fruit except that it's turning solid after a few months in my fridge. The Kukoi Coconut syrup is by far the best one overall I've tried BTW, I like it even better than Coco Lopez and the Trader's. I've used Torani PF in the past and it's tasty but doesn't really have the true flavor of PF. I bought the Monin PF at Surfas while I was in LA last week (they also stock alot of Fee Bros inculding Falernum BTW). The Monin doesn't seem to have real PF in it either, it just says "Passion Fruit Flavor," although there's some thick stuff in the top of the bottle that looks like it could be derived from fruit. I haven't tried it yet but I'm happy with other Monin products, especially their pomegranate syrup.
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GentleHangman
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Posted: 2007-07-12 2:06 pm   Permalink

I have found that Beachbum Berry's recipe for Passion Fruit syrup (Pg. 173 "Sippin' Safari") produces a syrup that beats ANYTHING pre-made in a bottle . . . bar none! It's very simple to make and you can make it in small batches (so it doesn't go bad on you before you can use it up) and the ingredients are very easy to obtain at most stupidmarkets. I used the 14oz frozen package of Goya Passion Fruit Pulp and simple syrup in equal proportions - no heating or reducing and the results were a very fresh and natural tasting Passion Fruit Syrup.

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GatorRob
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Posted: 2007-07-12 3:30 pm   Permalink

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On 2007-07-12 11:33, Haole'akamai wrote:
I want to invite everyone over to Hinky Drinks at Lund Manor and have a Passion Fruit Syrup Taste-off!


So are you covering the airfare?

Gentlehangman - I echo your remarks. I made some using Goya's frozen passion fruit pulp recently and it took me maybe 10 minutes of my time. And you don't have to mix a large batch either. Just pull off a hunk of the frozen passion fruit pulp, thaw it and mix it with equal parts simple syrup. Done. Of course, I won't do that every time, so I will still keep a bottle of commercial passion fruit syrup handy for when I'm time constrained.


 
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tin_omen
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Posted: 2007-07-12 7:37 pm   Permalink

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On 2007-07-11 10:34, thejab wrote:
On 2007-07-10 19:23, tin_omen wrote:


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Yup. That's the stuff. Ingredient list from the bottle: Water, Passion Fruit Juice, Pectin.





Not sure if that would work in a recipe that calls for syrup, though it may work well in recipes that call for passion fruit juice. Passion fruit syrup should be thick and very sweet and concentrated in flavor. I'll make the switch from TV's to Monin for my Knockout Punch, but I wish Monin was easier to find locally. I have made my punch with Torani and it tastes fine but it's slightly different in taste than it was with the old TV syrup.

[ This Message was edited by: thejab 2007-07-11 17:30 ]



Heh, clearly there's a variety of opinions in this thread. From our end, I like the Aunty Lilikoi's, been using it for awhile. We made some outstanding Spindrift's last night using it. :^D

As to the consistency, it's definitely a "syrup". It's much thicker than a "juice" like orange or pineapple... or the "stuff" that TV is passing off as "passion fruit syrup" these days. It's just not as thick as real maple syrup. Or, going to the far end of the spectrum, molasses. ;^P


 
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The Ragin' Rarotongan
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Posted: 2007-07-15 8:03 pm   Permalink

How about Fee Bros passion fruit syrup. They have 3, one golden, one red, one green.I am assuming that the golden would be the closest to tv's old syrup. I still have almost a whole bottle of the glass tv left, and have yet to try the new plastic bottles. I have had fee bros orgeat and falernum and they are both awsome, has anyone had their passion?
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Posted: 2007-07-16 10:49 am   Permalink

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On 2007-07-15 20:03, The Ragin' Rarotongan wrote:
How about Fee Bros passion fruit syrup. They have 3, one golden, one red, one green.I am assuming that the golden would be the closest to tv's old syrup. I still have almost a whole bottle of the glass tv left, and have yet to try the new plastic bottles. I have had fee bros orgeat and falernum and they are both awsome, has anyone had their passion?




I would suggest you avoid it. There's no passion fruit juice in it at all, tastes really sweet and kind of chemically. It's probably closer to the plastic bottle TV syrup.


 
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thejab
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Posted: 2007-08-03 1:47 pm   Permalink

I just bought a bottle of Finest Call at BevMo per Beachbum's recommendation and will try it in my Knockout Punch this weekend. I want the make the homemade syrup from Sippin' Safari but I can't find the frozen pulp and the Bum says it lasts for 3 days in the fridge, which makes it fine for a party but for everyday use I would just end up dumping most of it out.

Has anyone found the pulp in the Bay Area?


 
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Posted: 2007-08-03 2:29 pm   Permalink

I'll checkout bum's recipe, but thought I'd share my home recipe. Last time, it came out a touch syrupy, but I've remade it and... WOO.

Just reduce 1 pack of Ceres Passion Fruit Nectar until it's good and thick (but not burnt), measure, add an equal amount of organic cane sugar, and 2 oz. of Alize for preservation/flavor. Take that to a boil, and immediately turn to low. Let simmer for 30 minutes or so, then cool and put in a bottle, and refrigerate.

Basically, using the reduced nectar as the water for a simple syrup, with Alize for fun. It's nowhere near the bite of the Trader Vic's double-whammy, but the passion fruit flavor is pretty impossible to beat. Hmm, wonder if adding some citric acid would encourage some kick. Things to think about!


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Posted: 2007-08-05 03:00 am   Permalink

So back to the first question,
Why did Vic's sell out on their own product.

Martiki's right, it LOOKS and taste like shit.
What's classic is, half of us wouldn't even have noticed if you didn't change the bottle.

Dumb Shits!


 
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