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kick_the_reverb
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From: Originally Israel, now Oceanside, CA
|  Posted: 2009-06-29 9:19 pm Permalink
Sorry to tell you guys, but a year or two ago Monin stopped using real ingredients in their syrup, it's all artifical flavors now, and it doesn't taste nearly as good.
I just tried making passion fruit from frozen pulp+sugar cane syrup, tastes good.
Ran
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Mai Tai
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From: Exotic Isle of Alameda
| Posted: 2009-06-30 01:08 am Permalink
Ran, did you use the Goya frozen passion fruit pulp? I've been having a hard time finding that around my area, and finally called their distributors, who directed me to a place nearby in Oakland. I'm hoping to pick some up within the next day or so. Just curious if that's what you used, and how you like it compared to the old Trader Vic's stuff before it changed, as well as other passion fruit syrups.
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The Gnomon
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| Posted: 2009-06-30 06:37 am Permalink
Goya pulp isn't expensive at all. I forget what I paid for my last batch of passion fruit pulp. I still have three packs left. But fresh passsion fruits go for $2 per fruit around here, when you can find them. The pulp is the most practical way to go. It tastes pretty close to fresh when thawed and it is not coslty.
I'm not sure, but I think about 10 – 12 packs probably come in a single carton of Goya frozen pulp. I'm guessing that just about every major grocery store near everyone carries a line of Goya products, even if only a few. Any store that has an established account with Goya should be able to special order any Goya product, so you should probably go down to the corner store and ask the grocery manager to order you a carton.
I learned that little trick growing up in a household where two people were in supermarket management. Any time you want something that the store doesn't carry, just commit to buying a whole carton (or whatever minimum unit the store can order) and you can get just about anything delivered to your local market. That beats spending three times the money on gas and wasting lots of time if you can afford a carton of whatever it is and can deal with the quantity.
In this case, a carton of frozen pulp shouldn't be difficult to handle in size or cost. That's what I'd be doing if it wasn't as readily available in stores around here as it is.
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kick_the_reverb
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From: Originally Israel, now Oceanside, CA
| Posted: 2009-06-30 10:28 am Permalink
Mai Tai,
I was able to find a local Cuban Market that should have it, but they were out of it, they should be getting some on Thursday.
I found another brand in a Mexican supermarket (forgot the name, sorry), and used the whole packet to make a bottle.
Yesterday I added some rum to it, as it's in the fridge and I'd like it to keep for a while.
If/when I find Goya, I'll probably doa taste test.
I remember the taste of old TV, but back when I was using a lot of PFS I used Monin mostly (when it had fruit), so the old TV taste is not branded on my taste buds. From what I could tell, the pulp/sugar syrup mix that I made certainly resembled that. My only gripe is that it wasn't very thick.
Yesterday I also called around until I found a way to get Funkin brand PF puree to a local liquor store...but I held off at the last moment, becasue they said that a case of five 1 liter packets would be ~$120!!!
I almost said yes, but then I was thinking - that is way too much money for what it is...the frozen pulp was ~$2.50 and that 1:1 sugar syrup filled an 750 ml bottle.
Ran
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arriano
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From: Birdland - San Diego
| Posted: 2009-06-30 2:12 pm Permalink
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On 2009-06-30 10:28, kick_the_reverb wrote:
I was able to find a local Cuban Market that should have it, but they were out of it, they should be getting some on Thursday.
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A Cuban market in SD? Is that the Latin American market on Morena?
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Mai Tai
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| Posted: 2009-06-30 3:21 pm Permalink
Gnoman - Thanks for the tips. I have tried the trick of asking my local grocery stores to order me a case. No dice, even though they carry Goya products. I was surprised that they wouldn't help me out, as the stores are fairly upscale, but I guess customer service these days just isn't what it used to be.
So I contacted Goya's distributors directly. Usually they can locate a nearby store, or order a case for someone, and have it delivered nearby. The distributor gave me the location of four Mexican grocery stores in the Bay Area that carry the Goya frozen passion fruit pulp, two are in San Francisco in the Mission district, and the other two are a short drive for me into good ol' O-Town.
Ran - a lot of folks around here use the Funkin packs of passion fruit puree. But they usually split up the big 5 liter order amongst 4 or 5 people, that way it only costs about $20 per person. That stuff is supposed to go a long way, since it still needs to be made into a syrup, and it's really easy to work with since it's already in liquid form.
I am going to buy some of the Goya passion fruit pulp today. It would be interesting to see how it compares to the frozen pf pulp that you just tried out. I still have a couple bottles of the Trader Vic's pf syrup, and I think I still might have a bottle of Monin's too. And I have access to the Funkin pf puree. So I think I'll make up a batch of everything. Maybe we can have a taste comparison, at Tiki Oasis?
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The Gnomon
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| Posted: 2009-07-01 06:21 am Permalink
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On 2009-06-30 15:21, Mai Tai wrote:
Gnoman - Thanks for the tips. I have tried the trick of asking my local grocery stores to order me a case. No dice, even though they carry Goya products. I was surprised that they wouldn't help me out, as the stores are fairly upscale, but I guess customer service these days just isn't what it used to be.
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Unemployment must be at an all time low. Employers must be so desperate to staff their operations that they accept people who can only provide customer disservice. I've been using plastic lately, are stores still taking cash? USD? Or do I have to dig out my Euros? Do any brick-and-mortars take PayPal?
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kick_the_reverb
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From: Originally Israel, now Oceanside, CA
| Posted: 2009-07-01 6:39 pm Permalink
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On 2009-06-30 14:12, arriano wrote:
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On 2009-06-30 10:28, kick_the_reverb wrote:
I was able to find a local Cuban Market that should have it, but they were out of it, they should be getting some on Thursday.
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A Cuban market in SD? Is that the Latin American market on Morena?
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Yes, that is the place 
I'll see if they got any of that tomorrow, if I have the time.
Ran
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kick_the_reverb
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From: Originally Israel, now Oceanside, CA
| Posted: 2009-07-01 6:47 pm Permalink
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On 2009-06-30 15:21, Mai Tai wrote:
Ran - a lot of folks around here use the Funkin packs of passion fruit puree. But they usually split up the big 5 liter order amongst 4 or 5 people, that way it only costs about $20 per person. That stuff is supposed to go a long way, since it still needs to be made into a syrup, and it's really easy to work with since it's already in liquid form.
I am going to buy some of the Goya passion fruit pulp today. It would be interesting to see how it compares to the frozen pf pulp that you just tried out. I still have a couple bottles of the Trader Vic's pf syrup, and I think I still might have a bottle of Monin's too. And I have access to the Funkin pf puree. So I think I'll make up a batch of everything. Maybe we can have a taste comparison, at Tiki Oasis?
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I thought of splitting the funkin batch amongst a few people, but I don't know that there are as many SD folks that are into mixing at home vs you guys in SF. Even if I just buy one, it works out to $24 per 2 liters of syrup, while the forzen stuff is $6-8 for the same quantity.
I'd love to do a taste test, If I get some Goya, I'll keep it in the freezer, plus I'll get the other frozen pulp that I found. Then we can prepare it on one of the days at Oasis, and do the taste test. Weird Uncle Tiki mentioned to me that he gets pulp from Whole Foods Market. I can probably look for some and bring that, too.
We could taste a little bit of each syrup, then mix in a drink and compare.
Ran
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Shaun of theTiki
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Posts: 109 | Posted: 2009-07-05 8:25 pm Permalink
Has anybody tried Da Vinci's PF or the Boba Tea brand? http://www.bobateadirect.com/Passion-Fruit-Syrup-pr-280.html
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skillbilly
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From: The Isle of Style (Alameda)
| Posted: 2009-07-09 11:23 am Permalink
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On 2009-06-30 15:21, Mai Tai wrote:
So I contacted Goya's distributors directly. Usually they can locate a nearby store, or order a case for someone, and have it delivered nearby. The distributor gave me the location of four Mexican grocery stores in the Bay Area that carry the Goya frozen passion fruit pulp, two are in San Francisco in the Mission district, and the other two are a short drive for me into good ol' O-Town.
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Hey Mai Tai
I've been trying to find this in the East Bay. I found Coco Lopez in Alameda but no Goya so far.
Would you mind sharing where you found the PF pulp in O-Town?
I'm about to order some of the Aunty Lilikoi but would really like to try the Goya.
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jimsunrisefl
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Posts: 1 | Posted: 2009-11-13 09:42 am Permalink
In beachbum berry's book Sippin' Safari, he suggests using Finest Call passion fruit puree mix. Or he says you can make your own with frozen passion fruit pulp and equal amounts of sugar syrup. You can usually find the pulp in most latin markets.
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The Gnomon
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From: MD-DC-VA
| Posted: 2009-11-13 10:29 am Permalink
Make our own with frozen passion fruit pulp? Say. That just might work. Why didn't we think of that before? Thanks. 
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Swanky
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From: Hapa Haole Hideaway, TN
| Posted: 2010-01-09 08:54 am Permalink
I now endorse Aunty Lilikoi's PFS. I ordered a few bottles and tried it last night. The taste is right. It's what we got used to with TV PFS. Two things: 1) Shake it before pouring 2) it is a bit stronger tasting than TV's, so you will want to dial back the amounts a bit to compensate.
Having an "off the shelf" source that has a consistant taste makes it a winner for me.
One real problem with it is the order form is not SSL. If that is a worry, call and order instead.
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The Gnomon
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| Posted: 2010-01-11 10:38 am Permalink
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On 2010-01-09 08:54, Swanky wrote:
I now endorse Aunty Lilikoi's PFS. I ordered a few bottles and tried it last night. The taste is right. It's what we got used to with TV PFS. Two things: 1) Shake it before pouring 2) it is a bit stronger tasting than TV's, so you will want to dial back the amounts a bit to compensate.
Having an "off the shelf" source that has a consistant taste makes it a winner for me.
One real problem with it is the order form is not SSL. If that is a worry, call and order instead.
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It's about time you finally tried their stuff. Lori Cardenas (aka Ms. Aunty Lilikoi....I guess Tony is Mr. Aunty Lilikoi) used to make up quart jars for me, which made it possible to ship more product for the same postage, but she doesn't do that any more because she can't ensure that they won't break in transit. The PFS is reasonably priced, but the shipping to the mainland is expensive.
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