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Robin's Jade Carving update 4/3 actually got one done!
JohnnyP
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Posted: 2007-09-06 10:54 am   Permalink

Looks good! Nicely done.



 
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Posted: 2007-09-06 5:31 pm   Permalink

Robin,

I dunno, I think you are going to need to send that piece to me so I can go over it thoroughly and then provide proper comment. Please finish the cords to 14" so that I can accurately assess its pendantial qualities.

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Posted: 2007-09-06 8:17 pm   Permalink

That is beautiful...nice work. Really now...as a girly-girl, I feel I would be best to evaluate it (from a jewelry perspective) so slip that baby on a 20 inch lanyard and send it my way.
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benella
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Posted: 2007-09-07 12:29 am   Permalink

Hi Robin,

Happy you're back in Florida (you lucky man !) and back to work.
Your piece looks top first class.

Bravo,

Ben


 
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Tamapoutini
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Posted: 2007-09-07 03:18 am   Permalink

Quote:

On 2007-09-05 16:22, Robin wrote:
I don't know if you can see by the pictures, but there are some uneven areas I was kind of surprised about that showed up on the tongue near the mouth. Is this just a matter of more sanding/finer sanding, or do I need to go back and do something else? And the eyes...any suggestions? It kind of looks like the alien to me.



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Hi Robin. It is a little hard to tell from the pics but if its a problem with 'shaping' then you pretty much have to go back to your tools (most likely handpiece) to rectify. If the problem is better described as a 'ripple' or small undulation then you could probably get away with the slow/dry method; small circular scrubbing on the highest points, trying to blend/bluff them away. Keep in mind that diamond cloth and/or sandpaper are only smoothing or polishing tools, not carving tools. An early temptation is to avoid going back a step & thinking 'if I just go a little longer with this tool..' Hope this helps.

Nothing wrong with Alien eyes either. The Maori Hei-tiki IS the proverbial little green Man!; big eyes, three fingers, came from the stars bringing knowledge, etc... (cue the Twilight theme - doo doo doo doooooohh)

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G: "I dunno, I think you are going to need to send that piece to me so I can go over it thoroughly and then provide proper comment. Please finish the cords to 14" so that I can accurately assess its pendantial qualities."

Vamp: "Really now...as a girly-girl, I feel I would be best to evaluate it (from a jewelry perspective) so slip that baby on a 20 inch lanyard and send it my way."


And as for you guys: its a jade piece! You know where it has to be sent Robin...

TTT


 
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Robin
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Posted: 2007-09-07 09:51 am   Permalink

Hey thanks all for stopping by and for your comments, and best of all from such great artists/carvers.

Nice to hear from you JP. I have looked at and admired your work as well...more than admired. Enjoyed your post on the old guys thread too.

GMan...I would love to let you scrutinize this piece in person. I'm thinking that if I make all the cords in the specific lengths, you and Tama and Miss VampiressRn, ( thanks for stopping by VRN), could have joint custody. Thanks you guys....warmed my little heart.

Benella! thanks for the Bravo!...loving Florida and carving.

Tama, Thanks so much...I like that info on the eyes of the HeiTiki gives it a nice mojo. I understand what you're saying about thinking that I don't have to go back. It's not really a ripple. I'm thinking the stone is a tiny bit softer in that area, and my proficiency with the pressure of the handpiece isn't quite up to smoothing it. It's like getting caught in between the grain of wood...it's such tiny work. Will try with slow dry on the higher areas so I can see better. I will definitely drive your point about which tools for what into my head.

Thanks for your post of your ceramic work and insights on the 'old guys' thread too! You would have made a great ceramicist!

Jadi Warrior heading to the shop!



 
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Benzart
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Posted: 2007-09-07 10:02 am   Permalink

"Jadi Warrior"? I Love that. It slipped right by me at first as a Typo, Slow person that I am.
To heck with all those peeps wanting to assess, evaluate and go over your piece with their specific lengths of cord. Just send it to me and I'll give it a good home and when you visit I'll let you work on it awhile. The postage to NZ would be too much too.(sorry Tama)
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benella
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Posted: 2007-09-25 10:08 am   Permalink

Hi Robin,

Anything new ?

Ben


 
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Robin
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Posted: 2007-11-18 11:16 pm   Permalink

Well I found myself on page two....thought I'd have to go back a lot farther. I'm thinking of changing my name to slacker.

It's been a looooong while....injured my back, and then a while more to get some enthusiasm going. When I finally looked at my carving again, I realized it was practically done. I had thought to try some inlay in the eyes, but decided against it. I kept trying to fix things and just created more things to fix...time to move on! When I looked at the pictures I noticed a little bit more sanding needs to be done in a few places.
Oh well.

Learned how to do a 4 strand braid too.

I had to start something different...I loved the shapes and the repetition of shapes in the design work I saw in NZ. Complex overlay and repetition of shapes. These forms are from Kowhaiwhai..here's a link to some information. They are amazingly done with strict mathematical formulas.

http://www.aucklandmuseum.com/site_resources/library/Education/Teachers_Guide/Teacher_Resources_Library/Maori_Education_Kits/Maori_02Kowhaiwhai_1_.pdf
Maori_02Kowhaiwhai_1_.pdf (application/pdf Object)

Here are some pics.









Next I'm going to try some of those clubs and paddles.

Thanks for looking.









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benella
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Posted: 2007-11-19 04:59 am   Permalink

Hey Robin, Are you really back ? Yippee !
Beautiful tight pieces you've showed and realized here, my friend.
And you finally finished your superb first NZ piece: very nice, very very nice pendant. Go on like this, I beg you
Did I read something about future clubs to come ? Hope to see pix very soon

Benjamin.


 
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Benzart
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Posted: 2007-11-19 05:30 am   Permalink

Ditto what that Other Ben said!!!
Slacker? Sounds about right for you, Me and a few other TC'rs here Really happy to see you posting more beautiful stuff.
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Tamapoutini
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Posted: 2007-11-19 1:00 pm   Permalink

Kia ora Robin. Glad youre feeling a bit better and very cool to see you are back into some carving.

I love these kowhaiwhai pendants; very precise and nicely stylised. What sort of stone is the smaller one made from? delicious! (I can see a small but sexy detail in the way you have contoured the hole to better accommodate cordage on this smaller piece).

Getting technical: I like the crisp/contemporary look of the 'straight-sided' cutaway holes, but have you considered continuing with the edgeline/shaping right into the cutaway areas? It would eliminate the chipping at the edge of 'cutaway' on the larger piece. *Hope Im making sence here. Let me try again: if you started making a large 'bevel' on the interior of those cutaway/'almost circle' bits (sheesh - what sort of teacher am I supposed to be? haha) and continued that bevel until it reached half-depth/centre-of-thickness. With me? (I can illustate if neccessary)

Keep us posted of your carving progress. Remember: keep pushing and trying new things.

Tama


 
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Robin
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Posted: 2007-11-20 8:42 pm   Permalink

Hi you guys.

Thanks so much for your comments and support. Yep Ben...I'm really back...god willin' and the creek don't rise. I'm really interested in the shapes of those clubs and paddles...hoping to get into some surface design. I'm really looking forward to trying some. Thanks for hanging in there with me.

Benz...hey there...yeah major slacker here. Thanks friend...your work and support have been a major inspiration.


Kia ora Tama. Thanks for looking, and for your nice comments....I'm hoping that that little one is pounamu...that's what it's supposed to be! It looks kind of like a stone Kshaman used...at first I was disappointed in the color, but it is so soft and subtle with light, and really nice and dark without that I've learned to appreciate it more.

I was going to ask you about that chipping. The stone didn't seem to be flawed, but when I was closing in on the edges, bits started to fly. I thought maybe I was spinning the foredom to fast...any way...I think I know what you mean. I sort of saw that when I was working on the bigger hole,forming a sort of beveled edge... but had already committed to a straight edge on a small hole. Hadn't thought about going back.

The chipping is problematic...I was thinking I'd have to enlarge the smaller holes...which I think kind of spoils the design. I'll get a picture of that area and see what you think. There is a chip on the back near one of the points...small....but a problem...Wait...do you mean work toward a center line from both sides...or bevel from the front to the back edge???? I think the former rereading....a gradual/smooth transition from new center edge to the center of the pendant ....unnnnhhhh it's hard to describe huh? Maybe that pic is a good idea.

Thanks so much Tama for your input...I really appreciate your help....I think you're a great teacher!



 
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Posted: 2007-11-21 03:48 am   Permalink

Looking sweet Robin! Glad you're back!!

 
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GMAN
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Posted: 2007-11-21 06:14 am   Permalink

Hey Robin,

The pendant came out beautiful. Very nice job on a difficult piece. I hope you feel wel, enough to continue.

The new pieces are wild. Could you tell us more about their significance? I know you picked up a craving for them while you were over there - is there some history you could ket us in on?

I like the little one....need my address?

-G


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