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Robin's Jade Carving update 4/3 actually got one done!
benella
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Posted: 2008-02-05 01:47 am   Permalink

WOW, I missed that thing !!!
Amazing work ! Really good.
I love the toggle. And what you did with the cord too

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From: where the road and the sky collide
Posted: 2008-02-08 09:11 am   Permalink

Hi there Tiki friends. Thanks so much for stopping by and for your encouragement. Boy is it nice.


Aloha to you Mooney, and thanks. When I saw that picture of your kids, I thought if I had a couple of cutie pies like them I'd watch SpongeBob too!

Hey Craig/TF1...how's that TikiMan Basement coming. Thanks for stopping in...rolling is sure better than crash and burn!

Benz...always a privilege to have you stop by and thanks for the 'excellent' quite something coming from the master. I just might show up one day...you never know. I would love to see you in action.

Hi JP, thanks for having a look. I guess it's all those years throwing pots that help with the steady hands!

Benjamin, thanks mon ami, so glad you like it.

I have been working some on the Tiny Tiki face, minutely like Benz said. I took some pictures, but they don't really show to much difference without the 5X,some small improvements though. Currently am spending time looking at it and thinking. While thinking, I worked on another blade. Mere blade. Apparently, Mere and Patu are pretty much the same. Mere is when it's made from Pounamu, and Patu for wood/whalebone.



I read that this beehive design was pretty standard for Mere


This is Wyoming jade. I liked that amber colored streak where it got near the rind.


It was fun to do this while I contemplated the Tiny Tiki.

Still need to make the toggle. More blades drawn out, and am heading to the shop to rough them out.

Thanks again for all your comments, and for taking a peek.

Best

R.


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Benzart
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Posted: 2008-02-08 10:38 am   Permalink

These clubs LookGreat Robin, Really nice Minute work. My only suggestion would be to drill the cord hole a bit further down so it is not in the weakened area of the grove beginning nthe round head part, but it's No Big thing really, just me being picky
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Paipo
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Posted: 2008-02-08 1:55 pm   Permalink



Great save on the notched warclub....if we hadn't seen the pics it would be very easy to believe that the lashed handle was intentional all along! It makes good sense from a functional viewpoint (if your hands are 1" long!) and looks very pleasing too.

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On 2008-02-02 17:59, Robin wrote:

Here are some progress shots on the tiny face. More tiny fractures in this stone that I didn't notice...it's like they're buried in the stone. As I tried to work them small bits flew off the lips and nose that I had to then go back and fix. There's another one still on the lip that I'm having to be very careful with.





You're right - they are buried in the stone. As you cut into the jade it releases structural tension and pieces want to come adrift. Just one of the many foibles of the "Stone of Heaven" that we learn to work with. It's very hard to avoid this with some stones, but using fresh tools and trying a gentler edge can help. By this I mean there are a few different tools you can use for the same job...disc/lens shaped cutters, inverted cones, flats and balls. You could use any one of these to carve a tiki face into a stone, but the first couple mentioned are more likely to cause collateral damage....



Something I noticed with this picture (although not a huge issue because this stone is fairly clean) is your grain runs at about a 45 degree angle through the design. Whenever possible, for anything long and thin you need the grain running lengthwise with the design. I think the angle was the same on the one that broke? Also, by drilling your hole transversely you have taken a bit of stone out of the handle where it is needed most. I nearly always drill my jade pendants through from front to back (in this case I'd go through the "pommel"), or use the "hidden" bullnose in the back of the piece where space allows. Again, I'm not saying what you've done is wrong - it also comes down to a balance between aesthetics and durability...but these are things that can be make-or-break on certain stones. It's all about minimising risk!

Anyway, on with the show - I'm really enjoying these pieces. We seem to have lost momentum with the TC stoner movement, so it's up to you to carry the torch now!

PS Have you got the "Maori Weapons" book?
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Posted: 2008-02-10 4:34 pm   Permalink

that's funny robin, i did a few of those early last year.






 
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Robin
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Posted: 2008-02-11 6:05 pm   Permalink

Hey there, not much to post, wanted to say thanks for checking in....worked on the little guy some more...whittling away at it...probably to much. It's much better to start with a plan. Pics tomorrow I hope.

Hi Benz, thanks so much I'm really enjoying this work. Thanks for the advice,and compliments. I really appreciate it...being picky is what makes stuff good. I appreciate you taking the time to share your expertise. I knew it was risky, but not how risky as per Paipo's post. It was a purely aesthetic decision, and also wanting it to hang as a pendant. I'm not planning for those holes ahead of time unfortunately.

Hi Paipo...thank you for the great advice and compliments. It's so helpful. I thought that lashing would be good on an actual blade too for a grip. Maybe they didn't do it because it was easier to clean the blood off without it!

Really interesting about the stress fractures popping up...The Stone of Heaven, so tough, and apparently finicky. I was wondering if I was spinning the wheels to fast as well..if slower would also make a difference.

That's interesting about the grain too, and it makes sense. I positioned it to use the slab economically, and for aesthetic reasons. I'll be sure to keep the grain in mind next time.

I really thought if I got that hole in there that I'd be home free. As above, I haven't really been planning for the holes in the design, will definitely plan ahead from now on.


"Anyway, on with the show - I'm really enjoying these pieces. We seem to have lost momentum with the TC stoner movement, so it's up to you to carry the torch now!'

Now that is quite an assignment! Where are the stoners anyway? So glad you're enjoying them, and thank you again for your help...couldn't ask for a better teacher.

"PS Have you got the "Maori Weapons" book? "

I looked on Amazon for Maori Weapons. Is it the book by Jeff Evans? Pre-European Maori Weapons? I mostly look online and TC for pictures and information. I have only three books now. Mana Pounamu/Russell Beck, Jade Country/T. Schoon and The Decorative Arts of the NZ Maori/T. Barrow.



pdrake...Thanks for stopping in. Aren't those blades cool. Pounamu seems to lend itself so well to these shapes. Yours are very nice, and you got the holes going the right way! Really sorry about your fingers...Glad you're working again though. I remember that interesting MoKo design you started...is it going to be resurrected? Hope so.

Carrying the torch in Florida!

R.


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Posted: 2008-02-14 3:04 pm   Permalink

Hi there, Happy Valentines Day....don't forget your sweeties.

No preamble this time....ah well, just a little. This tiny thing has made me more nervous than just about anything in awhile. I'm a bit sorry that the proportions have suffered with my whittling, but it's coming along. Here he is so far.











Thanks for looking.

R.


 
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Posted: 2008-02-14 3:04 pm   Permalink

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Posted: 2008-02-14 7:49 pm   Permalink

Incredible little fine detail on that! NICE!

 
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Posted: 2008-02-16 09:40 am   Permalink

Nice grinds Robin. He looks goodz. I knew you would figure him out. He'll look great when you soften him up.
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Posted: 2008-02-18 5:04 pm   Permalink

Yeah, Looks to me like you figured him out for sure, Looks great. I think I see a Mean expression there, So Tiny! Cool.
Love the set with the earrings too!
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Posted: 2008-02-18 7:30 pm   Permalink

Fantastic art! I don't know how you can work on such minute and detailed designs, but you are VERY good at it!

Thanks for sharing all of this beautiful work.
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Robin
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Posted: 2008-02-19 3:56 pm   Permalink

Hi guys...thanks for the comps and the encouragement. I almost cut his head off a couple of times! I think you saved him.

Hey thanks for the 'incredible' Seeks.

Thanks G....softened and trying to figure out the cord...thanks for talking with me about it.

Benz...still looks a bit like a wide eyed child to me...also a walrus...but at least he looks a little more dangerous! Found some better pictures to look at for the next one. Thanks so much Ben..I always appreciate your comments.

CarvenImage. Another Florida person! Thank you for posting. Wow. Really nice words, much appreciated. Looking forward to seeing what you're doing.

Couple more coming...ordered the Maori Weapons book. Got it cheaper from NZ than here even with shipping...I now have four books and counting...and about 20 from the library.

R.





 
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Robin
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Posted: 2008-02-28 3:33 pm   Permalink

Well I figured out the cord on the little butt head Wahaika. No hole, just lashed. Had to reduce the overall size some because the head got so little. Started another Kotiate. I got my Maori weapons book today, and it turns out 'according to popular tradition, and borne out by the name Kotiate ( to cut liver),'it was used for disemboweling, as well as temple bashing when they got past the longer weapons. I also saw a Patu that had lashing on the handle so lashing was used sometimes. I wonder if more were lashed, it makes sense for a grip, and that the lashing was lost or rotted off over time. Anyway, I'm happy to have this book...many more weapons than I was aware of, and some nice descriptions and pictures.

Butt head #1. Quite the challenge and learning experience. Proportions not great, but better.





I left this huge knob for the head on this one 'cause the other one kept getting smaller and smaller so I have lots to play with.




Thanks for looking!


 
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Posted: 2008-02-28 4:07 pm   Permalink

I knew you'd like that book! Seeing you're specialising in clubs it's a must-have. There are some really funky and unusual items in there I haven't seen in any other book. The others you mentioned are great - I would also recommend Donn Salt's "Stone, Bone and Jade" to complete the essential trilogy of NZ jade books (along with the Beck and Schoon volumes you have).
Great work as always with the carvings - I really like the suspension method on this latest one!
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