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Best Fake ID where ?
sushiman
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Joined: Jun 28, 2007
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From: Kumamoto , Japan
Posted: 2007-08-07 7:20 pm   Permalink

My wife , daughter and I will be going to the Big Island next March . Mika is 19 now and will be 20 in February . The drinking age is 21 in Hawaii , so I'd like to purchase a fake ID for her that shows she is 21 . I can assure you that she won't be driving a vehicle or getting plastered , but I know she'd like to sip on a Mai Tai or whatever when we go out for dinner . In Japan she has already had drinks in bars and restaurants as they are much less strict here . and she looks 20 , which is the legal drinking age . Anybofy got any recommendations ? I've heard that most of the US sites selling fake IDs are a scam or ripoff .

 
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hiltiki
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Joined: Jun 10, 2004
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From: Reseda, calif.
Posted: 2007-08-07 7:25 pm   Permalink

You can get a mai tai for yourself and she can share it with you and with your wife as well...I don't think anyone would mind at all.

 
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JenTiki
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From: Wandering the eastern shores
Posted: 2007-08-07 7:29 pm   Permalink

I think the ABC would mind if they catch you. By letting a minor drink your alchoholic beverage in a public restaurant or bar, you're putting the establishment that serves you at risk of a citation, as well as yourself and your daughter. I'd rather not see you risking the future of fine tiki establishments by breaking the law in them.

 
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tekoteko
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From: The Abyss.
Posted: 2007-08-07 7:36 pm   Permalink

Quote:

On 2007-08-07 19:29, JenTiki wrote:
I think the ABC would mind if they catch you. By letting a minor drink your alchoholic beverage in a public restaurant or bar, you're putting the establishment that serves you at risk of a citation, as well as yourself and your daughter. I'd rather not see you risking the future of fine tiki establishments by breaking the law in them.



Actually in a lot of states it's perfectly acceptable by law for a parent to order a drink and allow a minor to consume it under their supervision. Not sure if this is the case in Hawaii, but it's certainly worth having a look. It could save a lot of time and trouble if you just order the beverages yourself.

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sushiman
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From: Kumamoto , Japan
Posted: 2007-08-07 7:53 pm   Permalink

Thanks for the replies .

I don't wish to get anyone in trouble , obviously , which is why I thought I'd get her a fake ID . The establishment certainly could not be penalized if they proofed someone and was shown an ID that was not obviously fake ...could they ?




 
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Tikisgrl
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From: Lowell, Mass
Posted: 2007-08-07 8:04 pm   Permalink

On 2007-08-07 19:53, sushiman wrote:
Thanks for the replies .

I don't wish to get anyone in trouble , obviously , which is why I thought I'd get her a fake ID . The establishment certainly could not be penalized if they proofed someone and was shown an ID that was not obviously fake ...could they ?



It's cool that you are trying to teach your daughter to drink responsibly. I don't think a fake ID though is a very good idea. Your best bet might be to ask our Hawaiian Ohana if it is indeed legal to allow your daughter to sip from your drink.

Culturally speaking it's perfectly acceptable for any Jewish child old enough to hold a wine glass to have a taste at a Friday Night Service. No one ever carded me!

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Mai Tai
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From: Exotic Isle of Alameda
Posted: 2007-08-07 8:07 pm   Permalink

I think you'll find that we're all well over the legal drinking age here on Tiki Central. I haven't had to use my fake I.D. for what, like.... a year now?
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JenTiki
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From: Wandering the eastern shores
Posted: 2007-08-07 8:39 pm   Permalink

Well, assuming that I'm reading this correctly, then it appears that you may, in fact, provide an alcoholic beverage to your minor daughter in Hawaii, even in a public place. But she will not be allowed to purchase her own. I stand corrected.

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sushiman
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Posted: 2007-08-07 8:44 pm   Permalink

Quote:

On 2007-08-07 20:39, JenTiki wrote:
Well, assuming that I'm reading this correctly, then it appears that you may, in fact, provide an alcoholic beverage to your minor daughter in Hawaii, even in a public place. But she will not be allowed to purchase her own. I stand corrected.



Thanks for that ! I knew somebody on TC would come through !


 
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Haole'akamai
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From: The Polynesian Port of NOLA
Posted: 2007-08-07 9:17 pm   Permalink

Quote:

On 2007-08-07 20:04, Tikisgrl wrote:


Culturally speaking it's perfectly acceptable for any Jewish child old enough to hold a wine glass to have a taste at a Friday Night Service. No one ever carded me!

Tikisgrl




In looking at that documentation JenTiki provided, not even religious events constitute as an exception.
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sushiman
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From: Kumamoto , Japan
Posted: 2007-08-07 9:45 pm   Permalink

Yea ...Looks like I'm back to the fake ID .

 
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JenTiki
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From: Wandering the eastern shores
Posted: 2007-08-07 9:55 pm   Permalink

I think if you read the right parts of the documentation, you'll see that the checkmarks indicate allowable exceptions to the law that prohibits providing alcohol to a minor. Therefore, religious observance and having alcohol provided by a parent are exceptions to the "no alcohol for minors" law. So it should be okay.

 
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Unga Bunga
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From: CaliTikifornia
Posted: 2007-08-07 10:39 pm   Permalink

Hey Sushiman!
What a dumb fuck way to red flag yourself.
Wake Up!


 
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sushiman
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From: Kumamoto , Japan
Posted: 2007-08-07 10:48 pm   Permalink

Quote:

On 2007-08-07 22:39, Unga Bunga wrote:
Hey Sushiman!
What a dumb fuck way to red flag yourself.
Wake Up!



What on earth are you on about ?


 
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sushiman
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From: Kumamoto , Japan
Posted: 2007-08-07 11:01 pm   Permalink

Quote:

On 2007-08-07 21:55, JenTiki wrote:
I think if you read the right parts of the documentation, you'll see that the checkmarks indicate allowable exceptions to the law that prohibits providing alcohol to a minor. Therefore, religious observance and having alcohol provided by a parent are exceptions to the "no alcohol for minors" law. So it should be okay.



Legal mumbo jumbo always confuses me , but I read it as furnishing is prohibited in all states , but there are some exceptions in some states and these are indicated by a PLUS + sign . So , Hawaii is no bueno methinks .

>>>>For Location and Family variables, a indicates the conduct is permitted only if both a Family exception and a Location exception are satisfied, e.g., a parent is present AND the conduct occurs on private property. A indicates the exception is not conditional on another exception being satisfied, e.g., a parent is present regardless of whether the conduct occurs on private property.


 
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