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Interview with Kern Mattei of the Mai Kai
Loki
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Posted: 2007-09-03 12:34 pm   Permalink

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On 2007-09-03 11:35, GatorRob wrote:
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On 2007-09-03 09:22, Loki wrote:
We don’t have a right to tell the Mai Kai how to their job. I don’t see Kern on this site begging the TC ohana for business ideas.


Chris, man, maybe you read something into these posts that I didn't, but I didn't hear anyone suggesting that we tell the Mai-Kai how to do their job. Or that they should somehow consult us before they do anything. They run a business. It is theirs. And we are patrons of said business and, other than Hukilau, we represent a tiny fraction of their revenue stream. (Although Pablus has obviously been skewing that statistic lately.) All that I hear Sven suggesting, and I am in agreement with him, is that we encourage those who are doing creative work for the Mai-Kai to do some research before doing that work.



Hey Rob, I appreciate hearing from you, as I believe I have perhaps been misinterpreted and would like to clearify. Were I agree it is an intrinsic and personal responsiblity to encourage some fellow tiki-artisens to present their "replications" in a traditional fashion in keeping with the spirit of the presentation. However, generally I am not of the nature to offer unsolicited, allbeit, constructive criticism.
My original intention for posting was merely to offer the awareness of the "cultural landscape" that has developed over the years at the MaiKia....In fact it has created it own cultural twist to what we call, to tribute Sven, "Poly Pop". I personally am resistant to trample on what I refer to, as the "Culture of the MaiKai" ,that has been created over the years.

My retort was truely to address Sven's remark of "the wisdom of the general public". I regret straying from the topic at hand and hope I have set the record staight on the matter as I am in agreement with the opinions you have so accutely summarized. So when are you coming back down so discuss this "properly";-) over a MaiTai, or two....or three ??


 
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Chip and Andy
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Posted: 2007-09-03 1:27 pm   Permalink

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On 2007-09-03 12:34, Loki wrote:
... So when are you coming back down so discuss this "properly"...



Yes! As was mentioned earlier in this thread, the pictures make these things look horrible! If we are to discuss these tiki's and how they fit in to the greater world of Tiki, we really should do it in thier yard.

I would love nothing more than to cary on this conversation with anyone who is interested while sitting on the back porch of the Mai Kai with a tall frosty rum drink in hand......

What time shall we expect you?


 
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icebaer69
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Posted: 2007-09-03 3:46 pm   Permalink

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On 2007-09-03 06:24, pappythesailor wrote:
... Can't support the Mai Kai because you can't GET to the Mai Kai? Call and order some t-shirts, mugs, mousepads, pens and a Mystery Bowl.



i tried - but they don´t answer emails !!!


 
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GatorRob
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Posted: 2007-09-03 5:26 pm   Permalink

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On 2007-09-03 15:46, icebaer69 wrote:
Quote:

On 2007-09-03 06:24, pappythesailor wrote:
... Can't support the Mai Kai because you can't GET to the Mai Kai? Call and order some t-shirts, mugs, mousepads, pens and a Mystery Bowl.



i tried - but they don´t answer emails !!!


So call them on the phone! Or email Pia at
pia@maikai.com. She always replies promptly and while she doesn't deal with merchandise sales, she can probably get an answer to you. But now that I think of it, they shut down their online store some time ago and I don't know if they do mail order anymore. Pia can tell you.

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GatorRob
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Posted: 2007-09-03 5:33 pm   Permalink

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On 2007-09-03 12:34, Loki wrote:
So when are you coming back down so discuss this "properly";-) over a MaiTai, or two....or three ??


Oh man, I'd be there tomorrow if I could. I can't think of much I'd rather do than sit around drinking Zombies and Jet Pilots while talking about the Mai-Kai with you guys. But keep in mind my conversation skills are inversely related to the number of Jet Pilots consumed.

Actually, working up the details on an October visit now. Will PM you all.


 
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pablus
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Posted: 2007-09-03 6:21 pm   Permalink

In October, this Mai Kai of yours is going to undergo a serious crazing.
Things will crack. Tikis will dance. Colors will fade.

Haole Kats! Crazed Mugs! DVD being shot! Live music being recorded!
It's gonna get crazy.
That's the plan anyway.

Maybe we'll have a tiki painting party at Will's place.
I want to paint them with a shrunken head dipped in blood.


Oh.

Yeah.




 
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RevBambooBen
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Posted: 2007-09-03 8:51 pm   Permalink

Quote:

On 2007-09-03 18:21, pablus wrote:
In October, this Mai Kai of yours is going to undergo a serious crazing.
Things will crack. Tikis will dance. Colors will fade.

Haole Kats! Crazed Mugs! DVD being shot! Live music being recorded!
It's gonna get crazy.
That's the plan anyway.

Maybe we'll have a tiki painting party at Will's place.
I want to paint them with a shrunken head dipped in blood.


Oh.

Yeah.






Pabby!

I'll donate a pint!!

Anything for the MAI KAI!!!
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Surfer
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Posted: 2007-09-04 07:05 am   Permalink

Ok, this is getting near and dear to my heart, lets clear up a bit of mis-information. first of all the comment about the area that the Mai Kai is in as being "Low rent". I live about a block from it, and my house appraises at about $650,000, thats a low average for the area. Yes there is a strip club close, but a very upscale club, that has a grandfathered land deal. Chip and Andy your comment about Historical commissioners is a bit rude, and totally off the mark. First off, all of the historical commissioners are appointed, they do what they do as a service not a job. The commission is made up of several local Mayors, representatives from the Seminole tribe (can you say owners of the Hard Rock chain) and my wife who has a PHD in medical ethnography, and adds great input to my tiki indulgence. To become a historical site, the Mai Kai would have to apply for the status, the commission just can't come in and take over. Cheers

 
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The Mayor Of Exotica
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Posted: 2007-09-04 07:27 am   Permalink

"The only way to 'Save' places like the Mai Kai is to GO to places like the Mai Kai." Well said, Andy! My only regret is that I live so far away that I can't be there every other night.

"In October, this Mai Kai of yours is going to undergo a serious crazing.
Things will crack. Tikis will dance. Colors will fade.

Haole Kats! Crazed Mugs! DVD being shot! Live music being recorded!
It's gonna get crazy.
That's the plan anyway."

Knock 'em dead, Pablus, Mugz, and Cats! Can't wait to see the fruits of that labor, with the "new" tikis! And just thinking about that Rum Barrel song...
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pablus
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Posted: 2007-09-04 11:10 am   Permalink

<<first of all the comment about the area that the Mai Kai is in as being "Low rent". I live about a block from it, and my house appraises at about $650,000, thats a low average for the area.>>

Well here's what was actually written:
"It's almost a good thing that the surrounding area is kind-of "lower scale" adult clubs and cheap motels, etc. "

I personally drove by more than one "gentleman's" club - and no matter how wonderful they may be... inside there are naked ladies and this generally goes on in the lower scale places in whatever city allows that sort of thing. Las Olas is not going to have one. Oakland Park has them within a short distance of the Mai Kai. I had to pretend I wasn't checking them out while my wife was in the car.

And the hotels I've stayed anywhere within a 3 mile radius of the place, including the Best Western and another one further south on Fed. Hwy. are in very questionable locales and in ratty shape and cost me next to nothing for a night.

I'm not trying to bust on your 'hood. I'm looking at it as a plus for the Mai Kai. In Ft. Lauderdale, Oakland Park is a 'once-was' and maybe a 'gonna-be' but it's not peaking right now for sure. That allows for some leverage for the ownership of the Mai Kai, IMO.

As far as the historical designation - anybody ever hear of this place:

El Jobean
Charming El Jobean has its own old-Florida flair. A former winter home for circus and carnival performers, it features a historic post office museum and cafe that hosts weekly Bluegrass jam sessions.

I've been to those bluegrass jams. The place is owned and operated by individuals. It's a registered historic landmark - I think nationally. I don't know what their restrictions are but there certainly don't appear to be any. If you know what I mean, and I think you do.

Anyway, certainly this place in the middle of nowhere isn't much of an indicator, but perhaps the guidelines are state or national and not regulated by whatever local governing body would interfere with the Mai Kai's thing.
I believe the bristling attitude is in the very clear fact that the code restrictions can get seriously uptight when left unchecked. I'd personally hate to see someone come in and start snapping fingers and telling them to get rid of the thatch just because they can.

Anyway. Surfer, next time I'm down there please stop on in and let me buy you a drink or three. It's always good to know someone within staggering distance of the Mai Kai, even if they live in a little 650,000 dollar hovel.



 
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GatorRob
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Posted: 2007-09-04 11:29 am   Permalink

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On 2007-09-04 11:10, pablus wrote:
And the hotels I've stayed anywhere within a 3 mile radius of the place, including the Best Western and another one further south on Fed. Hwy. are in very questionable locales and in ratty shape and cost me next to nothing for a night.


Who was president the last time you stayed at the Oakland Park Best Western? We've stayed there, let's see... times two, carry the one... about 5 times in the last couple of years. Rooms have been completely renovated. All shiny new. Pool is always clean. Hedges always trimmed. And the pool area still has a mild mid-century feel to it. Never felt unsafe with my kids there or had my car broken into or anything like that (knock on monkeypod). Rates vary from around 100 bucks out of season to much more in season.


 
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tiki_kiliki
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Posted: 2007-09-04 11:38 am   Permalink

I'll 2nd that GatorRob - the area isn't "ratty" and has some of the best mid-century homes in Fort Lauderdale. I honestly can't think of any poorly looking hotels in that area - one was leveled recently - maybe you're talking about that one.

Anyway, to get back to the original concern for this posting - glad the Mai Kai is still around - and it will be for quite some time.


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Tiki Diablo
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Posted: 2007-09-04 12:16 pm   Permalink

I'd be down to help paint some tikis.

 
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pablus
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Posted: 2007-09-04 1:00 pm   Permalink

I perceive I'm unintentionally pressing some buttons here but I'll just make this my last post on this thread before I start having to soak my mail.

Glad to hear the Best Western is in stable hands. Last time I was there in 2003 with Palm Farmer Johnny, we found a hypodermic needle next to our door and about 3 wet porno magazines in the parking space next to mine.

(And that's just what I brought with me - bahdamboom.)

No for real. I got a witness.
Hence, I brave the 7-11 trail of Fed. Hwy. North and stay at the Riverside Hotel.

It's Mid-Century too.

BTW, my wife's family has lived in Ft. Lauderdale, mostly Oakland Park, for nearly 50 years.
Her mother worked at the Mai Kai for a short time. I'm not trying to paint the area as anything other than what it is. Much like the Cabana and many other South Florida Icons of yesteryear, certain places need some TLC in an immediate fashion. Oakland Park is one of them, IMO.

That means "In My Opinion" and that's what it is, just like the premise that it's hunky dory and a prime area is an opinion.




 
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Surfer
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Posted: 2007-09-05 05:29 am   Permalink

Pablus, "gotta defend the hood", and I see / live first hand how much work the Historical commission does to preserve what little is left of old Fort Lauderdale. At last nights commission meeting a new member was introduced, representing Oakland Park. If you happen to be around on Friday 9/7, my band will be playing in the Molokai from 6 to 9. Say hi, the barrels on me.

 
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