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my first palm tiki - finally dried
domin
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Posted: 2009-08-10 2:08 pm   Permalink

still not positive on this log, but its looking more like hackberry to me with these latest pics, all the hackberry I've worked with at all, even fairly young fresh cut healthy trees, have a pale white almost grayish look to the wood as opposed to the more common yellowish glow of most white woods, and also hackberry has medium gray spots in it, big streaks or blobs of grey that just seem randomly distributed thru the log. you might check out my thread ive got a hackberry Ku going with more greenish spalting at the ends and a bit of the grey black streaks like yous in it thru the middle but if yours has large random areas of gray like the sides of my Ku's chin it may just be hackberry.

oh by the way looking good, can't wait to see all that spalting all cleaned up.


 
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Tikilizard
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Posted: 2009-08-11 1:10 pm   Permalink

Does the wood have small holes, about 1/4 of a inch, running throughout the piece? If it does then it may be ambrosia. If not then it's definitely spalted.... maple? If it's spalted then it's a great find and much sought after type of wood due to it's grain color. Your tiki is coming along great and has a nice outline. Leave the sanding and detail to the last though. Keep up the great work and look forward to it being finished.

IF you post a pic of the leaf then we will definitely know what type of tree it is.

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seeksurf
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Posted: 2009-08-11 9:30 pm   Permalink

Looking sharp both of those guys coming along great.

 
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Benzart
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Posted: 2009-08-12 10:18 am   Permalink

Hey BigT, its what all carvers gon through in the beginning, Carve Deep they are told and they think they are caarving All the way through the log when they are only barely scratching the surface. Your current piece is looking pretty deep but in time you will find yourself even going deeper. Don't sweat it for it Will Come. Pretty soon we will be telling you to "Leave a bit MORE Meat on" for that is how far it will go. You are doing Great and ar Far ahead of where I was even at 30 or more tikis.
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TheBigT
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Posted: 2009-08-13 08:50 am   Permalink

Domin: I think you may be right about the Hackberry. There's plenty of it around here. I knew what it was when I put this log up but have since forgotten. Thanks for the comps.

Tikilizard: Thanks a bunch. Nope, no small holes. Plenty of large ones though as you can see from the pic below. Oh, this log was cut and debarked a long time ago so no more leaves around.

Seeks: Thanks man. Did some more work on the eyes and face.

Ben: Yep, you guys have been telling me to carve deeper for several carves now. Don't worry, I'm trying and hopefully getting better at it. I appreciate all the pointers!

Worked some more on the face. It has a real heavy set look that I kinda like. A bold look. I still have to put some decorations on the helmet.



Discovered a fair amount of damage as I go deeper on the back. Maybe I'll be able to cut through these bug channels and there will be solid wood underneath. I hope so. Any suggestions if there isn't?? I want to stain this dude a light color so I don't know how wood filler repairs might look on this guy. Luckily, it's on the back and not the front.



Thanks all for the input!







 
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big daddy
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Posted: 2009-08-13 09:35 am   Permalink

just a couple of old war wounds picked up on raiding trips. gotta get a wife, right? good work t.

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Bali_Dan
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Posted: 2009-08-13 09:40 am   Permalink

Hey BigT, it looks good. They make this stuff called plastic wood made by DAP. It takes a stain well but you can still tell its there when used on larger holes. I usually leave the holes, just coat the inside of the hole with the stain. Makes the tiki look more old and ancient. Give it some character. I wouldn't do that on a museum type piece, but the ones I make for myself or my friends I just work with the imperfections. In fact one guy that I carve for actually prefers the holes and cracks. He says it it adds that antique looking quality. Keep the chips a flying.

 
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Tikilizard
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Posted: 2009-08-13 11:20 am   Permalink

Noooooo.... Don't use a filler! It won't match the original color of the wood when stained. Unless you are going to paint it. Leave the tiki as close to the original wood as you can. The holes on the back side are just fine just smooth them out when you sand him down or add a chisel texture to the tiki that comes close to the holes. I think tiki's look good with a crack or blemish.
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Benzart
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Posted: 2009-08-14 06:31 am   Permalink

I Agree, no fillers, they just fall out anyway and the holes will Always Look filled.
The bug that makes those tunnels in the wood are some type of beetle larvae/worm and look like a big Hammerhead type thing on the end of a fat worm. Most likely they are still inside the log chewing away and will emerge some day. Easiest way to kill'em is to let the log spend a day or 2 in a freezer. probably not a big deal though. Lookin good!
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nomolos
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Posted: 2009-08-23 05:50 am   Permalink

That spalting looks excellent, great looking tiki, did you do anything to treat any borers that may still be inside?

 
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TheBigT
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From: Fabulous Houston
Posted: 2009-08-24 12:18 pm   Permalink

Quote:

On 2009-08-23 05:50, nomolos wrote:
That spalting looks excellent, great looking tiki, did you do anything to treat any borers that may still be inside?



No, didn't treat it. Didn't like the idea of carving into a log that's been soaked with insecticide. Nor do I have a freezer large enough to freeze em. Was just hoping to carve em out as I went along. Any remaining beetles will just have to be sealed up in there when I finish it up.

Switched gears and started working on this guy again. Carving is all finished up and have the first coat of stain on.






 
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congatiki
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Posted: 2009-08-24 12:22 pm   Permalink

Great face BigT, and I really like the simple body lines. Looks like you
have some nice grain in this one.


 
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Queen Kamehameha
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Posted: 2009-08-24 3:08 pm   Permalink

great detail, love the face, very nice!


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nomolos
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Posted: 2009-08-26 07:23 am   Permalink

Looks fantastic any more updated pics? I love that stain what is it?

 
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TheBigT
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From: Fabulous Houston
Posted: 2009-08-27 06:22 am   Permalink

Conga: thanks! Yes the grain does look kinda nice now that it's stained. I'm not usually a fan of pine grain so I had meant to cover this all up. Although I don't have quite the staining skills I might attempt to leave a little showing through now.

Queen: thanks, appreciate the comps. Just kiddin ya about your sink ya know!

Nomolos: thanks, the stain is MinWax Red Elm. It's a gel stain. I don't think they have the color available in the regular stains. I'm finding the gel stain wasn't quite as helpful as I thought it would be. Maybe should have used wood conditioner plus gel stain. This pic doesn't really show the color that well. I'll try to drag this thing out of the garage for some better pics.


 
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