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Little fragrant Tiare
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Joined: Oct 12, 2007
Posts: 181 |  Posted: 2008-04-22 5:06 pm Permalink
Quote from the article: You need Demerara in your bar, no matter what brand you can find.
I couldn`t agree more.
Another Demerara i would recommend if you can find it is Banks XM.
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The Gnomon
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From: MD-DC-VA
| Posted: 2008-04-23 10:02 am Permalink
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On 2008-04-21 12:35, DJ HawaiianShirt wrote:
Gnomon, W&N White Overproof is actually one of the rarer brands that I can consistently find in DC stores. I doubt that DC is the most convenient thing for you, though...
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Which stores out of curiosity? I'm in pretty good shape now as far as W&N WO is concerned. There's an MC store not far away that has a lot and it seems like I'm the only one who buys it. I'm periodically in the AU/Tenely area.
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DJ HawaiianShirt
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From: NoVA, DC
| Posted: 2008-04-23 10:14 am Permalink
Ones that come to my mind are located on G Street NW between 17th & 18th, right near the White House, and the other is Washington Liquor, the one I go to most often, which is on 12 St and F St NW, between the Metro Center and Federal Triangle Metro Stations.
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Mr. NoNaMe
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Posts: 1866 | Posted: 2008-04-23 6:16 pm Permalink
How did it go DJ? Did you score the six bottles? 
Erik the Red
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DJ HawaiianShirt
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From: NoVA, DC
| Posted: 2008-04-24 06:23 am Permalink
I didn't buy six, Erik, I just got one. That place is pretty impressive. I'm sure it'll have a steady supply.
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Marlo
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From: toronto
| Posted: 2008-04-24 5:09 pm Permalink
On a related note would it be considered sacreligious to replace 151 demerara with say a 12yr old El Dorado demerara? I'm thinking of mixing a 1934 Zombie but the complete unavailability of 151 demerera in Canada is frustrating to say the least.
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rev_thumper
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From: Koala Kabana, New England
| Posted: 2008-04-24 6:00 pm Permalink
The El Dorado would probably keep the taste consistent albeit with a lower octane. I would be more inclined to do that rather than use a different 151.
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DJ HawaiianShirt
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From: NoVA, DC
| Posted: 2008-04-25 05:14 am Permalink
Thanks to the people on this board, I was helped and lucky enough to find some demerara. If you are not one that can find it, then I would echo the statement that a suitable replacement could be made with Martinique rum and perhaps a splash of some dark rum. I don't really care if people say that you can't replace it. Sometimes it just isn't around. Tiki fans shouldn't have to forego making drinks because they don't have some of the more exotic ingredients.
If it tastes good and makes you woozy, don't let anyone tell you what you shouldn't be doing. 
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Swanky
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From: Hapa Haole Hideaway, TN
| Posted: 2008-04-25 05:58 am Permalink
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On 2008-04-25 05:14, DJ HawaiianShirt wrote:
Thanks to the people on this board, I was helped and lucky enough to find some demerara. If you are not one that can find it, then I would echo the statement that a suitable replacement could be made with Martinique rum and perhaps a splash of some dark rum. I don't really care if people say that you can't replace it. Sometimes it just isn't around. Tiki fans shouldn't have to forego making drinks because they don't have some of the more exotic ingredients.
If it tastes good and makes you woozy, don't let anyone tell you what you shouldn't be doing.
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Here here! I have made Soo many of the recipes with the wrong rums... I don't have Louisiana rum, or some others. Though it may keep me from having the drink as created, it certainly gives me a good idea if it is worth trying when I do have that rum. Full speed ahead!
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Hurricane Hayward
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From: 16 miles from The Mai-Kai
| Posted: 2008-07-26 10:32 pm Permalink
From a recent interview with Beachbum Berry on a European blog:
http://bastardosaffrin.blogspot.com/2008/03/aloha-ladies-and-gentleman-tonight-we.html
In Europe we have the eternal problem that we can't find certain ingredients. We can home-brew Falernum, Pimento, and other mixers, but we can't distill Demerara 151. In this blog we have discussed about finding a solution for the lack of this primary ingredient in certain drinks. Can you tell what do you would do in our situation?
"This is a big problem for Americans too. Outside of the northeast states and the west coast, it's very difficult to find Demerara 151. The tragedy is, there is NO substitute for that rum.
"But I have had limited success with one kind of recipe. If a recipe calls for both gold Puerto Rican rum and Demerara 151, I've found that sometimes you can approximate the same body and flavor by substituting dark Jamaican rum and Bacardi 151. (Try this in a Zombie or Coffee Grog. Not perfect, but not bad either.)"
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FYI, if anyone in South Florida is looking for Lemon Hart 151, I can point you to a store that I talked into stocking it. Just let me know. They also stock all the varities of El Dorado's Demerara plus they still have bottles of the 5-year-old Cruzan Estate Diamond gold that recently was taken off the market.
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Tahiki
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From: Annapolis MD
| Posted: 2008-07-31 8:53 pm Permalink
For those in the Washington DC area, one alternative is to make a road trip to Annapolis. I have been ordering El Dorado 12 and 15 year Demerara's from Bay Ridge Wine and Spirits (410) 268-1961. They just recently started stocking the 15 year. It saves shipping.
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DJ HawaiianShirt
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From: NoVA, DC
| Posted: 2008-08-01 07:13 am Permalink
I just went back to Central Liquor yesterday.
Eegads, what a store! Most of their stock is stuff not findable in the entire Metro area. I found Rhum Agricole there, and Maraschino liquer.
I took a second look at their Demerara. They have Lemon Hart and sometimes Lemon Hart 151. If I'm not mistaken, they also had El Dorado 15y and 21y. Unfortunately those are beyond me both in price and in quality of what I want to use right now.
Viva Central Liquor. 
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The Mayor Of Exotica
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From: Boston
| Posted: 2008-08-06 12:44 pm Permalink
Glad to see you've met with some success in the Demerarra department DJ!
Here's a recent adventure I had related to this topic:
http://web.mac.com/timmayer/iWeb/Site/Blog/Blog.html
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Rum Balls
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Joined: Oct 04, 2004
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From: Portland, OR
| Posted: 2008-08-07 7:05 pm Permalink
I've been making more drinks lately that called for 151 Demerara, and panicked when I saw the bottle was getting low. I've never been able to find it in Oregon, but luckily there's a plentiful amount right now around Washington state liquor stores for $27 a bottle.
The WA state website is very helpful. Start with a search here for Lemon Hart http://www.liq.wa.gov/services/brandsearch.asp, then click on "Find Store." That'll show you who has it in stock, along with address and phone # to check that it's still in stock.
Surprisingly, Washington doesn't have any of the "regular" Lemon Hart, but I see it regularly here in Oregon.
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Austin_Tiki
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Posts: 49
From: I'll give you three chances to guess
| Posted: 2008-08-08 08:33 am Permalink
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On 2008-07-26 22:32, Hurricane Hayward wrote:
From a recent interview with Beachbum Berry on a European blog:
http://bastardosaffrin.blogspot.com/2008/03/aloha-ladies-and-gentleman-tonight-we.html
In Europe we have the eternal problem that we can't find certain ingredients. We can home-brew Falernum, Pimento, and other mixers, but we can't distill Demerara 151. In this blog we have discussed about finding a solution for the lack of this primary ingredient in certain drinks. Can you tell what do you would do in our situation?
"This is a big problem for Americans too. Outside of the northeast states and the west coast, it's very difficult to find Demerara 151. The tragedy is, there is NO substitute for that rum.
"But I have had limited success with one kind of recipe. If a recipe calls for both gold Puerto Rican rum and Demerara 151, I've found that sometimes you can approximate the same body and flavor by substituting dark Jamaican rum and Bacardi 151. (Try this in a Zombie or Coffee Grog. Not perfect, but not bad either.)"
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FYI, if anyone in South Florida is looking for Lemon Hart 151, I can point you to a store that I talked into stocking it. Just let me know. They also stock all the varities of El Dorado's Demerara plus they still have bottles of the 5-year-old Cruzan Estate Diamond gold that recently was taken off the market.
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Hm. I've always just substituted an equal amount of Lemon Hart 80-proof in any recipe that calls for 151-proof Demerara, reasoning that while the drink may be less potent it will at least have approximately the correct flavor. Is the difference that noticeable?
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