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Coco Palms Resort Hotel, Kauai, HI (Hotel)
AceExplorer
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Posted: 2017-10-12 07:25 am   Permalink

Here is a standalone link to recent drone footage by wedding photog Jon Gibb:

https://vimeo.com/233740797

His drone takes you inside some of the structures and around the property. There is some "fluffy" context footage showing the beauty of the beaches around and near the resort. I thought it is a good video which in the future will really amaze folks who get to see the new and renovated resort.

Can you imagine having drinks and dining here? It should be superb! Start saving for your trip now.


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Posted: 2017-10-12 8:24 pm   Permalink

Interesting that they are posting updates on their website. Maybe something will start happening soon. There has been zero activity on the site for going on 6 months. The demo was finished in the spring, and it's been sitting gutted and waiting since, with no workers, no vehicles to be seen. There's no possible way it can open in 2018.
Not trying to be negative, as I really want to see this rebuilt and opened! Just reporting the reality as I drive by it daily.
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Posted: 2017-10-12 9:31 pm   Permalink

Lots of driftwood on that beach Bill

 
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Posted: 2017-10-13 04:18 am   Permalink

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On 2017-10-12 20:24, 4WDtiki wrote:
Interesting that they are posting updates on their website. Maybe something will start happening soon. There has been zero activity on the site for going on 6 months. The demo was finished in the spring, and it's been sitting gutted and waiting since, with no workers, no vehicles to be seen. There's no possible way it can open in 2018.
Not trying to be negative, as I really want to see this rebuilt and opened! Just reporting the reality as I drive by it daily.



Thanks for the in-person update! They have similar information posted on their Facebook page. My only guess is that they are completing things which are required before construction begins - finalizing plans, funding, permits, etc. and waiting for the construction company to move people, equipment, and materials to the site. I would expect the first thing that would happen is power poles and construction trailers would show up. Please keep us posted -- and again thanks for the in-person update.


 
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Posted: 2017-10-13 11:35 am   Permalink

Yeah, apparently they're still waiting for permits and, last I heard, funding. It sure would be nice to see something other than the sad empty shells of buildings sitting there, but I don't expect it anytime soon.



Here's another story from last month

http://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/story/36361931/there-are-big-plans-afoot-for-famous-coco-palms-resort-but-not-everyones-on-board

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Posted: 2017-10-13 12:18 pm   Permalink

So glad I copied and pasted those photos from their web site and posted them here -- just in case all this were to fall through again. I certainly understand the folks who want to protect the island from further commercialism.

I went back to the beginning of this thread and looked at the photos. One thing is certain to me - if this place were to be rebuilt and resurrected, they are going to be able to use many of the modern materials which would be more durable and more attractive than what was originally used. We make so much architectural stuff out of color-impregnated PVC now, and it's heavier and better looking and more durable.

I'm looking forward to seeing this place come back to life looking even better than it originally did.



 
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Posted: 2017-10-13 8:42 pm   Permalink

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On 2017-10-12 21:31, MadDogMike wrote:
Lots of driftwood on that beach Bill


Haha, that did catch my eye, Mike! Up around the corner on the right, all up on the rocks! I've recently picked the broad beach pictured, but never looked further north, now I know! 😎
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Posted: 2017-10-16 11:19 am   Permalink

Here's the developer's web site: http://greenewaters.com/

Coco Palms looks like one of three properties currently in development by this group.

Clicking on the Coco Palms image reveals a number of out-of-date articles and reports. Construction was planned to begin "Q4 2015" and be completed by fall 2018. As someone else posted here earlier, it's more realistic to expect the actual opening in 2019. But as slowly as things have progressed, it's possible we could see it sit even longer and then open in 2020 - if at all.

So the place is cleaned up, but that's still not an indication that they will be allowed to begin construction. At least the developer appears knowledgeable and experienced. In the end the development would bring lots of money and employment to the island. That's a tough wind to resist. But cultural and preservation forces are strong as well. It's going to be interesting to watch this. There are many who oppose further development on Kauai, and I understand some of the reasons.
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Posted: 2018-01-15 12:13 pm   Permalink


Update found here:
http://beatofhawaii.com/coco-palms-to-be-nationally-branded-construction-to-start/

Coco Palms Kauai 2018 Update | Will It Ever Happen?
DECEMBER 30, 2017 by BEAT OF HAWAII 31 COMMENTS

Update on Kauai Coco Palms Hotel, Kauai’s first and arguably most iconic resort ever. The place where the rich and famous once stayed and where Elvis Presley’s Blue Hawaii was filmed.

Depending on who you ask, the Kauai resort is still scheduled to open as a Hyatt managed property with 273 rooms, 77 suites, 3 restaurants, a cultural center, retail space and more. It is to be part of Hyatt’s Unbound Collection, a group of upscale luxury properties.

Until something happens, Coco Palms sits largely unchanged, destroyed through hurricane, fraud and neglect for a quarter century.

Since last we reported in summer 2017, little has occurred at the disfigured Coco Palms. County officials are tiring of the endless nonsense surrounding the project, even by Kauai standards, while offering nothing to move the project forward in any direction. It is looking more every day like a project destined for nowhere.

There is talk again about an alternative plan for Coco Palms, such as a county park. This is something that has been suggested for years. How that would happen, however, and where funds would come from to undertake such a process, is totally unclear.

Following demolition, construction was to have begun last spring, but never occurred. Dozens of building permits are apparently still pending. If started, the $135 million construction may take two years or more to complete, with target completion date now in the 2020 range. We know from experience that on Kauai everything takes longer than anticipated, and in the case of Coco Palms, even longer than that.

If these issues aren’t enough, three major new problems have arisen at Coco Palms.

1. A land dispute continues that arose last year when a group of Native Hawaiians claiming to be descendants of Kauai’s King Kaumualii began living on the property. Last summer a judge refused to remove them from Coco Palms as more information was needed to determine the rightful owners. A court date was set for this month. The developers have taken the position that “the county recognizes us as the owner of the property, and so we see it as criminal trespassing.”

2. Flood zone concerns. We’ve heard that county engineering is saying that the resort, if rebuilt, would need to comply with current flood abatement standards. Those did not exist at the time of the original resort. That could result in significant unanticipated costs and delays in order to flood-proof large areas of Coco Palms.

3. Is there a market for this new hotel? If the resort is ever rebuilt, how it can position itself in relation to other nearby Kauai hotels isn’t clear. Coco Palms is directly located on a very noisy stretch of Kuhio Highway, with no beach access. Competitive hotels have been built in recent years that, while not Coco Palms, offer beachfront locations at prices that could undermine the potential for profitability.

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Posted: 2018-01-15 12:33 pm   Permalink

For anyone interested, the paper has been covering the current trial - there are a few recent stories linked here:

http://www.thegardenisland.com/?s=coco+palms



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Posted: 2018-01-15 1:15 pm   Permalink

Good article and site! The comments at the bottom are VERY enlightening. I do not envy the judge - it will be a tough decision to make.

The one thing I see clearly, though, is that if the land were to remain as it is, or be turned into a county park, there is no guarantee that any cleanup, maintenance, or further development would actually ever take place. Would the native Hawaiians (if they are found to be truly "native" in the required sense) actually do anything if they won their case? Or would they just move on to somewhere else and leave the Coco Palms land alone? I think they have the right to do that if they win their claim. But there may be other better (or more significant) sacred ground and we're just not hearing about it. I'm left wondering exactly how special the grounds of the Coco Palms really are versus other areas of Kauai.

There are good arguments from both sides, and the judge seems to be investigating and will have to sort it all out. It is going to be very interesting.


 
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Posted: 2018-01-15 6:12 pm   Permalink

I noticed this story didn't come up in the newspaper search results I posted above; another complication.

http://www.thegardenisland.com/2018/01/09/hawaii-news/report-occupants-have-no-claim/

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Posted: 2018-01-15 7:23 pm   Permalink

Also worth noting, a few weeks ago, Bob Jasper started doing his tours there again. Monday -Friday at 10AM.
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Posted: 2018-01-24 11:47 am   Permalink

Bob's tours are great! Highly recommended if you get a chance to go.



Update to the current trial:

Coco Palms occupiers have 5 days to leave

http://www.thegardenisland.com/2018/01/24/hawaii-news/coco-palms-occupiers-have-5-days-to-leave/



Another story:
http://www.thegardenisland.com/2018/01/24/hawaii-news/coco-palms-at-defining-moment/

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Posted: 2018-01-24 12:28 pm   Permalink

Thanks for posting. Looks like the most problematic obstacle to development has been removed. I looked up the "Kingdom of Atooi" and found lots of weird stuff. In a nutshell, there are more people in line ready to take up the matter of what belongs to today's ancestors of the native peoples. What a mess. It's hard to tell who is right and who is just blowing smoke. Technically every square inch of every island could in some person's view be considered sacred and an important part of the native history. I can only trust that the Hawaiian elected officials and their judges are doing the right things.

The big mystery to me is finding out if they are still able to re-build the resort and then turn a profit.


 
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