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Need hi resolution photo of Easter Island moais as seen from a distance for a rain effect window
RevBambooBen
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Posted: 2008-08-26 08:23 am   Permalink

http://orangecounty.craigslist.org/hsh/804011134.html

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Mai Tai
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Posted: 2008-08-27 4:48 pm   Permalink

So I'm waiting on quotes for getting an image printed directly onto a sheet of plastic, like what is used in signs and displays in stores, and also waiting on a quote for having the image printed onto a large sheet of vinyl that I could apply to a sheet of plastic. I should have an idea on pricing within the next few days or a week or so. I'm still hunting around for an image, although I think I've narrowed it down to two or so. Stay tuned for more details.

Oh, in the mean time, any and all tips on building a large 94 inch wide by 34 inch tall light box are more than appreciated!
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Tiki Trav
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Posted: 2008-08-27 5:15 pm   Permalink

Generally, printing directly to your acrylic will be more expensive as the printer (machine) required (Large Format Flatbed) costs about double to buy so the equipment cost is passed down to the customer, also if they f*#k up the print (which happens a lot) they have to cover the cost of more acrylic sheet. I have made 1000's of signs including backlit and never printed directly to the subsrate.

Also might be worth checking sign shops for surplus/un-paid for lightboxes, they can easily modify one to your size if they have one that's close.

just a lil FYI
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pdrake
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Posted: 2008-08-27 5:24 pm   Permalink

i can get acrylic printed for $9.5-10 sq. ft. here. i'm in pretty tight with the company that has the machine. it's a high resolution flat bed printer that prints UV ink directly on almost any rigid substrate.
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Tiki Trav
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Posted: 2008-08-27 5:30 pm   Permalink

bargain! that's super cheap...

 
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Tiki Trav
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Posted: 2008-08-27 5:38 pm   Permalink

Are you gonna use real rain? How do you get the rain clouds to stay in the right spot?
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Mai Tai
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Posted: 2008-08-27 5:44 pm   Permalink

That is a good price, Perry! Remarkably, I think the preliminary rough quote that I got for printing directly onto the sheet of acrylic was approximately $10 a square foot as well, or roughly $200 bucks. The size of the sign that I need is maximum 94 inches by 34 inches, so that should be approximately 22 sq ft, or roughly $200. They are looking into getting the price down further.

Thanks for the info, guys. Yeah, I have someone that is giving me a Bro' hookup on this deal, so they are checking into the prices, especially printing onto the acrylic sheet. They had no idea what the cost was on printing onto the vinyl sheet as well, so I'm curious to see what the price difference will be.

I'll check into a light box from a sign shop, that is a great idea. But I have no problem assembling one out of wood, it shouldn't be that difficult. I just have to make sure that I can easily remove the plastic backlit sheet with the image on it, so I can change out the light bulbs when they eventually burn out.
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Mai Tai
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Posted: 2008-08-27 6:01 pm   Permalink

I wasn't going to use real rain. I had planned on doing this similar to how Disneyland did theirs for their Enchanted Tiki Room. They use strips of clear mylar, and when the "rain storm" approaches, with the rain sound and thunder, they use a fan to blow wind onto the clear mylar strips, to blow them around. It makes for a pretty good effect.

I uderstand that the Enchanted Tiki Room in Walt Disney World in Orlando actually uses real water for rain in their windows. I don't think I could pull that off, and would also be concerned about it leaking long term.

I'll have a strobe light in the light box, and it will be synced to the thunder claps - whenever there is a thunder clap, the strobe will go off. Tiki Hula did something like this in his Kapili Room, and it worked out really well.

As for the clouds, I figured that just a general darkening of the backlighting of the image would suffice for when the clouds roll over. I guess if I wanted to get really fancy, I could have another image of the Easter Island pic, but have someone photo shop it to make it look all coudy and dark and stormy. That image could be placed an inch or two behind the other image, and it could be backlit to make the general overall image look stormy. I don't know if that would work, but I don't have the money to experiment with that for right now.
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Hakalugi
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Posted: 2008-08-27 6:32 pm   Permalink

This is a great project. Just be sure that you absolutely love whatever image you choose. The Moai image looks great but for me, the lack of lush vegetation would be a no go. If I look out a window, I'd want to see a tropical jungle opening up to a beach. Maybe a distant volcano across the bay emanating a red/orange glow which gets brighter during the rain sequence. But again, that's just me. Nevertheless, I'm looking forward to seeing the progress.

 
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Bora Boris
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Posted: 2008-08-27 7:16 pm   Permalink

Maybe I would have more faith in the project if you were at least able to fix the photo in your signature.
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RevBambooBen
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Posted: 2008-08-27 8:46 pm   Permalink

http://www.tikiroom.com/tikicentral/bb/viewtopic.php?topic=24608&forum=2

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Tiki Trav
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Posted: 2008-08-27 9:12 pm   Permalink

Ok Mr Boo... so how did YOU do it?

 
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Mr. Pupu Pants
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Posted: 2008-08-28 12:54 am   Permalink

Hi Mai Tai, I'm planning to do a fake window with mural and diorama and have been looking at these two companies. Maybe you can find something there that works for you too.

http://www.muralsuperstore.com/tropical_murals1.htm

http://www.muralsyourway.com/myw4-cropping.cfm?pid=MMPIPI1088&opt=48&col=y&flp=n

Hope this helps.


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Mai Tai
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Posted: 2008-08-28 01:03 am   Permalink

I don't want to speak for Ben, but I did see Mark Walsh's office right after Ben finished some major work on it, and it totally rocks! It's amazing! Since Mark Walsh's office walls are basically deluxe pre-fab cube walls that go floor to ceiling, Ben couldn't cut into them to put in a window box or other stuff without it protuding through into the next office. So he had to build a false wall in front of that pre-fab cube wall, and place the rain window box effect into that. Pretty cool idea, I must say, and you can't even tell that false walls were put in when you are in Mark's office.

If I remember correctly, Ben used the clear mylar strips to simulate the rain, just like in Disneyland's Enchanted Tiki Room. In fact, I believe he pretty much built the windows in the exact same fashion as the ones in the ETR. No details on exactly how he built the window box - he'll have to tell us that himself. And I don't think that there's a background image in Mark's "windows" like what I want to do.
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pdrake
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Posted: 2008-08-28 01:29 am   Permalink

i don't know shit. don't worry.

 
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