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So what's the latest on Commercial Orgeat?
CincyTikiCraig
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Posted: 2009-08-05 8:15 pm   Permalink

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On 2009-08-05 11:29, The Gnomon wrote:
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On 2009-08-04 22:37, CincyTikiCraig wrote:
Mick, I have used Amaretto with great success. In fact when I'm traveling and can't find orgeat I always use 3/4 amaretto with 1/4 simple syrup. I call it "emergency Orgeat". Use a good quality liqueur, like Di Saronno or Luxardo, they have a better almond purity than the cheap brands.

Cheers,

Craig




Not to be confused with Emergency Orgeat Syrup.






Thanks for posting that link Gnomon. That recipe may be my new backup syrup when I'm on vacation.

Thanks again!

Mahalo,

Craig


 
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skeeter
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Posted: 2009-08-06 11:54 am   Permalink

What was the problem with Monin?
Just curious...

I dig their Almond syrup.


 
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CincyTikiCraig
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Posted: 2009-08-06 1:16 pm   Permalink

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On 2009-08-06 11:54, skeeter wrote:
What was the problem with Monin?
Just curious...

I dig their Almond syrup.



I've always found Monin's almond to be quite good, although hard to find in my area. It's a heck of a lot better than the Torani that I used to use.


 
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mick9
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Posted: 2009-08-10 08:22 am   Permalink

I also can find nothing but torani in my area. Anyone in Vancouver area know where I can find better orgeat?

 
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The Gnomon
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Posted: 2009-08-10 10:12 am   Permalink

I was unaware that Torani made orgeat and I'd be surprised if they did.

They make an almond syrup, which of course, is not orgeat. The whole Torani line, just like other lines you can actually find in neighborhood stores, seems to be geared totally for using in brown water to mask the coffee flavor. That's really the only reason you can find them in the first place. They are harsh and not of mixological grade, but with all of the Starbucks and copycat chains peddling brown water, they do have a decent market.

The Greater Washington Area is about as cosmopolitan as they come, so you'd think you could find something as basic as orgeat in lots of stores. Nope. And I suspect that most parts of the country are even less inclined to have orgeat than the DC area.

That's why a long time ago I stopped even looking for it anymore and just went online to have it shipped to me.

But since my Emergency Orgeat tastes better than storebought, I hardly ever use anything else unless I'm up for making the real thing. Still, when I'm out of the ingredients for EO, it's always good to have some storebought on hand.

If you can't find orgeat in your area, why hold your tiki drinks hostage by using unworthy substitutes when you can just order it online?





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bewarethe151
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Posted: 2009-08-10 12:59 pm   Permalink

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On 2009-08-10 10:12, The Gnomon wrote:
I was unaware that Torani made orgeat and I'd be surprised if they did.


[ This Message was edited by: The Gnomon 2009-08-10 10:15 ]



Acually, they do call it Orgeat. Well, they have both. They taste the same, though not very good.

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bewarethe151
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Posted: 2009-08-10 1:00 pm   Permalink

Years ago, it just said Almond Syrup. Now it says Orgeat Almond Syrup.

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quickiki
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Posted: 2009-08-19 3:39 pm   Permalink

Has anyone tried Crème de Noyeau as an orgeat substitute in Mai Tais?

 
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Rum Balls
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Posted: 2009-08-20 08:28 am   Permalink

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Has anyone tried Crème de Noyeau as an orgeat substitute in Mai Tais?



Not specifically Creme de Noyeau, but I have used Amaretto a few times...taste is similar to me, but it does kick up the alcohol level a bit.
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The Gnomon
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Posted: 2009-08-20 09:35 am   Permalink

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On 2009-08-10 13:00, bewarethe151 wrote:
Years ago, it just said Almond Syrup. Now it says Orgeat Almond Syrup.



Just as I suspected. Wannabees Buttaints.


 
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Unga Bunga
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Posted: 2009-08-20 10:48 am   Permalink

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On 2009-08-05 11:29, The Gnomon wrote:

Not to be confused with Emergency Orgeat Syrup.



How did I miss this?
Excellent thread Gnomon

Quote:

On 2009-08-05 11:29, The Gnomon wrote:
Wannabees Buttaints



And this also could be an excellent thread.



 
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quickiki
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Posted: 2009-08-20 12:00 pm   Permalink

I'm sure kick the reverb doesn't want to see this, and this may have been posted elsewhere on this forum, but here's a really basic recipe for orgeat that doesn't sound too conplicated:

http://www.artofdrink.com/2006/02/orgeat-syrup.php

Anyone try this??


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The Gnomon
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Posted: 2009-08-20 1:04 pm   Permalink

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On 2009-08-20 12:00, quickiki wrote:
I'm sure kick the reverb doesn't want to see this, and this may have been posted elsewhere on this forum, but here's a really basic recipe for orgeat that doesn't sound too conplicated:

http://www.artofdrink.com/2006/02/orgeat-syrup.php

Anyone try this??



Yes, sort of.

That is the more or less standard orgeat recipe. The most tedious part is making the almond milk. Here is something I posted a while back on
making almond milk.

The method I posted uses pre-blanched, slivered almonds, but you really get much better milk if you blanch your own nuts. Ouch!



Oh. I forgot to mention...

The OP stated at the outset that this thread was intended to determine which ready-made orgeats were worth acquiring. There has been plenty of discussion among purists on TC in other threads who extol the virtues of making it from scratch, myself included.




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kick_the_reverb
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Posted: 2009-08-20 3:32 pm   Permalink

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On 2009-08-20 13:04, The Gnomon wrote:


Oh. I forgot to mention...

The OP stated at the outset that this thread was intended to determine which ready-made orgeats were worth acquiring. There has been plenty of discussion among purests on TC in other threads who extol the virtues of making it from scratch, myself included.



Thanks Gnomon...excatly, I know how to use the search feature, and have been on here a few years to read about home made stuff. Apart from Oasis time and other special occasions, I don't make large quantities of drinks.
High hassle factor + short shelf life + no need for large quantity = home made Orgeat not a good option.

Ran


 
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The Gnomon
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Posted: 2009-08-21 06:40 am   Permalink

Quote:

On 2009-08-20 10:48, Unga Bunga wrote:
Quote:

On 2009-08-05 11:29, The Gnomon wrote:

Not to be confused with Emergency Orgeat Syrup.



How did I miss this?
Excellent thread Gnomon

Quote:

On 2009-08-05 11:29, The Gnomon wrote:
Wannabees Buttaints



And this also could be an excellent thread.





Thanks for the props. You're right about the thread idea; definitely Bilgeworthy. We might also want to start one called TMI.


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On 2009-08-20 15:32, kick_the_reverb wrote:
Thanks Gnomon...excatly, I know how to use the search feature, and have been on here a few years to read about home made stuff. Apart from Oasis time and other special occasions, I don't make large quantities of drinks.
High hassle factor + short shelf life + no need for large quantity = home made Orgeat not a good option.

Ran




NP. My Emergency Orgeat only takes ten minutes and, other than the fact that it has no thickness whatsoever, it tastes better than storebought and is probably easier to come by for a lot of people unless you order online at considerable expense. Still, it pays to have some storebought handy, so it's good to know what's good and what's not.

Hit the swaybar, face the speakers, and blast some screeching feedback! Or I suppose, in your case, you could kick the reverb.


 
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