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The Jungle-style Thread - Pop Culture Iconography of the Dark Continent
bigbrotiki
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Posted: 2011-04-13 5:53 pm   Permalink

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On 2011-04-12 14:37, JOHN-O wrote:
If anyone is a fan of pre-1930's fiction and knows of a depiction of people being boiled alive in a pot, that would be interesting to know about.



Now when surfing the Interweb for earliest cannibal cauldron images, the oldest image that comes up continuously depicting cannibals is this German one from 1590:





But WHERE is there a big pot in the picture, you ask. Well, I am assuming that today's culinary preference for barbecuing instead of boiling has made this image so preferential on the net.

But good old Theodor used his imagination when he illustrated the reports of explorers and came up with over 1500 illustrations in two volumes. Here's the one with the pot:



Now that looks just like the famous Mauna Loa cauldron mug!:



Ok ok, so it's not WHOLE whities sitting in the pot - but we get the picture.

I might have posted this earlier, but this is one of my favorite Cannibal Cauldron jokes:



Maybe because it reminds me of my favorite Cannibal Cauldron video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kbv8p1YfJbI

Pia was clearly paying homage to Joy Lansing


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Mister Naufrago
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Posted: 2011-04-14 03:47 am   Permalink

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On 2011-04-12 17:35, bigbrotiki wrote:
Here are some more great German and Austrian mid-century "Africa Exotica" ceramics
(I forget which page my first examples were on):







Guau! I think I'm love...

Some more European jungle fever from le France













And from Spain, poorman plastic version



And modern





 
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TikiTomD
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Posted: 2011-04-29 08:46 am   Permalink

Adding to the story of Johnny Weissmuller’s Tropical Wonderland in Titusville, Florida (posted back on page 20), I ran across an interesting web article by Ron Masters from August 14, 2010. It seems that Ron acquired an original theme park map and got permission from the current property managers to do a bit of urban archeology among the ruins. His story, complete with photo slide show, may be found at

http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/5685986/the_abandoned_tropical_wonderland_theme.html

Here’s the map Ron used (pardon the poor resolution)...



The surviving building with the A-frame structure apparently housed the “Snake Farm” according to Ron’s map. In Ron’s article, he noted that “No one has been able to tell me exactly how long the park was open, but it apparently wasn't very long.” From the newspaper archives, I was able to pin that down to the period, 1971 to 1972. There’s in fact much confusion about this among various web references as well. People’s memories are no doubt challenged on this point because there existed a Florida Wonderland at the site from the early 1960’s that went defunct before the park was reincarnated as Tropical Wonderland, and it lived on without Johnny Weissmuller for a bit longer.

My wife came across this personal souvenir from the earlier Florida Wonderland period when Michael Landon (aka “Little Joe” from TV’s Bonanza) made an appearance. She was in her early teens...





An article from the local newspaper helps to place it in time...

Titusville Star-Advocate May 29,1964


-Tom


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JOHN-O
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Posted: 2011-05-01 08:13 am   Permalink

Thanks TikiTomD.

I want to go to Tropical Wonderland !!

I may have to skip some Hukilau events on June 10th and venture out to this place instead.

I wonder how hard it will be to sneak in there ??


 
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TikiTomD
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Posted: 2011-05-01 09:17 am   Permalink

John-O, it should actually be pretty easy to sneak in, as monkeys and bears had no problems in breaking out of Tropical Wonderland when it was occupied and maintained! There's a fence line around it, but I believe it has breaks.

Rather than an obvious frontal assault in full view of many from US Hwy 1, it would be a simple manner to hike in from the backside. For those that would like a nice semi-tropical hike through the hammocks, you could start from Titusville's nearby Enchanted Forest Nature Sanctuary. Even closer would be a hike in from Breakaway Trail in Sisson Meadows subdivision where I recently had a home. It's a very short distance (less than three city blocks) through Live Oaks and Sabal Palms and across a railroad track. Not that I'm condoning this as more than a thought experiment!





Oh, just a word of warning for hikers... alligators, some quite large, inhabit lowland hammocks and marshes in this area (really anywhere in Florida where there's similar topology).

-Tom


 
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TikiHardBop
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Posted: 2011-05-14 03:57 am   Permalink

We went to this attraction as kids and it was pretty lame even for back then. And as a Florida-native that grew up pre-Disney, I've seen my share of lame attractions. I had a girlfriend who worked as a waitress when they briefly converted the main building into a bar/special event center during the post-Tropical Wonderland/Snake museum days and they had pretty much stripped it of all the Tropical Wonderland trappings. The big holes for the snake cages where still along the walls, but they didn't serve any other purpose but a convenient place to put your drink.

A little bit down from there, approximately across the street where the ASRC building is now, they had a really big train derailment also when I was a kid. People from miles around came to see the piled up train cars. I think that drew more people than Tropical Wonderland ever did!


 
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TikiTomD
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Posted: 2011-05-14 05:38 am   Permalink

George, interesting, I didn't remember that the Tropical Wonderland main building served as a bar in one of its reincarnations. It has the bones for a really great tiki lounge, with that A-frame central structure. I can just imagine torches flanking the entry and Polynesian dioramas in the wall cavities once occupied by the snake cages... where sipping one too many a Cobra's Fang could conjure up serpentine spirits of a former venomous occupant...

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christiki295
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Posted: 2011-05-19 07:21 am   Permalink

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On 2009-12-04 13:37, JOHN-O wrote:


Check out BigBro's shirt.

Proof positive that African Pop Primitism is the key to unleashing your inner Tarzan sex appeal.

Forget, Tiki-style. If you wanna get lucky with the wahines then go Jungle-style !!



That's good advice!


 
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christiki295
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Posted: 2011-05-19 07:28 am   Permalink

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On 2009-12-03 07:45, JOHN-O wrote:
Muy bueno, Senor Naufrago !! Los Banana Splits es muy magnifico.

BigBro, would it be possible that the most famous shield and spears in Tiki iconography might have been "African" ?



I'm sure the native Polynesians carried such things but did Tiki-style include weapons that were uniquely Oceanic? I always assumed these items were part of the African Pop Primitism cross-over. Uga Booga natives were always chasing the white expeditions with spear and shield in hand.







Excellent pointing out of how American Poly-Pop uses African iconography to create Tiki.

Here is the shield and spear in a less inconographic manner:





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JOHN-O
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Posted: 2011-05-19 07:43 am   Permalink

UPDATED: OK, never mind...

[ This Message was edited by: JOHN-O 2011-05-19 10:16 ]


 
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bigbrotiki
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Posted: 2011-05-19 09:31 am   Permalink

I'm not quite following...but just as a reminder:

The shirt I am wearing above at the Mai Kai depicts Papua New Guinea shields and spears:



PNG art is where Polynesian and African tribal art intersect, and blur the line and connect it to Polynesian pop.


PNG warriors

The same thing goes for MASKS. There were no masks used in Polynesia, basically. But many, many different ones in Papau New Guinea - and of course Africa. So mid-century Tiki designers freely chose from both. Case in point: Tiki Bob's origin. Anything that says "Safari" on it is clearly African (or Jungle) pop, though.

Here's another nice mid-century Cannibal pot graphic, by the way:



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TIKI DAVID
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Posted: 2011-05-19 10:48 am   Permalink







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christiki295
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Posted: 2011-05-20 07:26 am   Permalink

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On 2011-05-19 07:43, JOHN-O wrote:
UPDATED: OK, never mind...

[ This Message was edited by: JOHN-O 2011-05-19 10:16 ]



It's all good, John-O.


 
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Pineappleman11
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Posted: 2011-05-20 10:11 am   Permalink

Great Thread!

Where is my time machine so I can go back and visit Jungleland?
Melody May take me away

Page 7 of this thread for those that have no idea what I'm talking about
http://pineapplemantiki.blogspot.com/


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TikiTomD
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Posted: 2011-06-10 3:15 pm   Permalink

Fort Lauderdale, host city of Hukilau 2011 (in progress at this time), has a strong connection to Johnny Weissmuller, Tarzan the Ape Man and Jungle Jim... he lived here for years and served as a director for the International Swimming Hall of Fame.

This afternoon, while taking a walking break from Hukilau to get a late lunch/early dinner at Coconuts along the Intracoastal Waterway, I ran across this only a block north of the Bahia Mar Beach Resort along Seabreeze Boulevard...



Three large placards were affixed to the walls; here's two of them...





John-O, if you need a short breather from the Mai-Kai, there's an idea for a short walk from Hukilau central...

-Tom


 
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