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Crypto-Mugs. Do these legends exist and who has them? |
OceaOtica Grand Member (8 years)
Joined: Sep 29, 2003 Posts: 869 From: la, home of Tiki Ti
| Posted: 2012-04-09 11:09 am  Permalink
scrolled through again quickly and did not see it posted, does anyone have the "Tub of Oke" bamboo mug, pictured in the link http://junkhaulersjunk.blogspot.com/2011/02/serve-it-in-beautiful-vessel.html
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OceaOtica Grand Member (8 years)
Joined: Sep 29, 2003 Posts: 869 From: la, home of Tiki Ti
| Posted: 2012-04-09 11:23 am  Permalink
Kona Hilton from my collection
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Tiki Royale Tiki Socialite
Joined: Dec 06, 2002 Posts: 891 From: The Aloha Room in Beautiful Belmont, CA!
| Posted: 2012-04-09 2:50 pm  Permalink
OceaOtica,
My guess is that the "Tub of Oke" was actually made of bamboo and had a glass insert in the top to hold your drink. I think making it from ceramic would have been way too fragile.
I recently acquired the "Hawaiian Eye" bowl to go along with my Diamond Head, Hukilau and Tapa Punch mugs.
Aloha,
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1961surf Grand Member (3 years)
Joined: May 03, 2007 Posts: 1896 From: Newport Beach, Ca .
| Posted: 2012-04-26 11:09 am  Permalink
Was not sure if this was the right thread to post on, since it is primarily
about hard to find mugs , however anything vintage from Sam's Seafood is hard
to find.If you look at the middle of the pic, and then just above on the top
of the shelf ,you will see the tiki pendants there on the shelf.
( photo from Sabu in prior post )
Here is a close up shot of what the Marquesan tiki pendant actually looks like.This was on ebay and
I was out bid yesterday @ $124.00 .I have never seen anyone else post one of these on TC,
nor have I ever seen one in person.I am wondering if anyone here on TC won it.
 
 
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tikigreg Tiki Socialite
Joined: Mar 24, 2002 Posts: 1091 From: ClubTiki
| Posted: 2012-04-26 12:55 pm  Permalink
That pendant was made for the reopening of Sam's in 2006, the date on the bottom in picture of the auction listing. I have one hanging in our tiki lounge. At that price, it may be up on ebay soon!
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&_trksid=p4340.l2557&hash=item3f166f284a&item=270959323210&nma=true&pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&rt=nc&si=fgkmzHTV0RIx4dQcOjHQVxliKYg%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc#ht_500wt_994
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1961surf Grand Member (3 years)
Joined: May 03, 2007 Posts: 1896 From: Newport Beach, Ca .
| Posted: 2012-04-26 2:15 pm  Permalink
Do we know made these ? Glad I did not win .I thought it was old .Date is not totally
ledgable in pic.I am wondering if there are any old original ones out there ?
 
 
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1961surf Grand Member (3 years)
Joined: May 03, 2007 Posts: 1896 From: Newport Beach, Ca .
| Posted: 2012-04-26 2:19 pm  Permalink
Now that I have my reading glasses on I can see the date clear!
Curious if this was sculpted from an original or not ?
 
 
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bongofury Grand Member (6 years)
Joined: Oct 15, 2002 Posts: 1487 From: Ventura County
| Posted: 2012-04-26 3:49 pm  Permalink
Polynesaic!
http://www.tikiroom.com/tikicentral/bb/viewtopic.php?topic=19531&forum=17&vpost=234195&hilite=sam\%27s%20seafood%20re-opening
I used to have one of those pendants. I loaned it and a menu to TikiFarm so they could do the sculpt for the mug, but Holden and Squid do not know what happened to them. Oh well....
 
 
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tikigreg Tiki Socialite
Joined: Mar 24, 2002 Posts: 1091 From: ClubTiki
| Posted: 2012-04-26 4:49 pm  Permalink
Er, Sam's closing party... yeah, that's what I meant.
 
 
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TIKIWAGON Grand Member (5 years)
Joined: Sep 09, 2002 Posts: 288 From: England
| Posted: 2012-05-18 03:13 am  Permalink
The Beachcomber Mayfair London Flaming Grog mug:- At last i found one the rarest British tiki mugs, Whilst in a local junk shop which i always go in i saw a rather grubby and ugly looking mug on a high shelf only to pick it up and see what it was, Couldnt believe it! It looks almost homemade and glad i didnt pay a load for it on ebay!!(it cost 50p, about $1)
 
 
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atomictonytiki Grand Member (8 years)
Joined: May 14, 2002 Posts: 1272 From: Bangkok
| Posted: 2012-05-18 07:28 am  Permalink
I'm going to buy a hat to doff it too you!
So impressed in your find, I can't express my delight in your find without swearing.
 
 
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atomictonytiki Grand Member (8 years)
Joined: May 14, 2002 Posts: 1272 From: Bangkok
| Posted: 2012-05-27 12:06 am  Permalink
Inspired by Tiki Wagons Beachcomber mug find, I decided to spend some time trying to find the makers of these crypto mugs.
A few months ago I chanced, on a search on a search for "Beachcomber Mayfair London", on the following web page from the Telegraph from 19 Oct 1996..
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/4705107/Arabian-sights-on-the-tiles.html
..the page is about the welsh ceramicist Jean Powell and has the following intriguing passage..
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Jean and her late husband, Rhys, were among the first of North Wales's legion of struggling potters. Back in the Fifties they made "Polynesian coconut" pot ashtrays for the Beachcomber restaurant in the Mayfair Hotel, London. They were so popular that diners regularly walked off with an ashtray in their pocket.
Orders for more and more replacement coconut ashtrays were sent to the Powell workshops, then in Llangollen. Rhys and Jean even had to stop making their bestselling piggy banks and salt and pepper pots just to keep up with the demand for baked-clay coconuts. But the ashtrays paid the rent.
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So Jean and her husband made coconut ashtrays for the Beachcomber, well that adds another item to the list of crypto-items from that establishment.
Next I searched to see if Craig Bragdy Designs was still in business..
http://www.craigbragdydesign.co.uk/
..they are and on the site they have Jean Powell's book "Earth Fire and Water", which contains on page 19 this enlightening passage..
..now in my search I've turned up another crypto-item "Butlins Beachcomber Tiki Lamps". But on sentence got me thinking..
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On each we had to scratch "Mayfair Hotel London".
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Now we have no examples of the coconut ashtrays but we do have these mugs..
The Flaming Grog Mug, note the Mayfair branding on the side..
Beachcomber Logo Mug
and Mayfair branding does appear to be scratched on.
Were these mugs made by Jean and her Husband?
Surely the Beachcomber got their mugs made at the same place as their ashtrays?
So I took the chance and wrote to Craig Bragdy Designs and got this lovely reply back..
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Dear Johann
Yes you have tracked us down! In the late 50’s early 60’s we did produce hundreds of these half coconut shell ashtrays and the primitive mugs, I remember a holiday maker watching me working and doing the scratching’s and remarking “oh how nice to be so artistic!”
Another Polynesian innovation we made was for Butlins holiday camp in South Wales, they wanted big lamp bases for their bar. We were living at Wern Mill, Nanerch near Denbigh at this time (1960ish) and we didn’t have a very big kiln. There was a pipe and brick making factory in Pont Y Bodkin near Mold making salt glazed drain pipes and bricks, so we picked up unglazed unfired drain pipes of various sizes, some quite big 1-2 meters in height, we carved them into Polynesian Easter Island faces and Totem poles and then took them back to the pipe factory to be salt glazed and fired. The factory men were very helpful but thought we were quite mad. The lamp bases had exotic drum like raffia shades fixed on them afterwards. I am sure you won’t find any of those in your hunt!
After my husband “Taffy” died in 1994, I have carried on with two of our sons, Nick and Shon. We design and make Ceramic Murals and Swimming Pools in our Denbigh factory. Our customers come from, Saudi Arabia, Emirates, far East, Russia, USA and the UK.
It is very interesting to have your enquiry, best wishes to you.
Jean Powell
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So finally we have an answer to the Beachcomber Mayfair Mug Maker Mystery, the Flaming grog and double toggle tiki logo mug were designed by Jean and Taffy Powell and made at the Powell Pottery in Wales.
Now does anybody have an example of Jean's lamp bases as I like her challenge..
I am sure you won’t find any of those in your hunt!
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Dustycajun Tiki Socialite
Joined: Nov 16, 2007 Posts: 3946 From: Santa Barbara, CA
| Posted: 2012-05-27 06:33 am  Permalink
Atomictonytiki,
Stellar research! Great to learn about the mug maker, and even better to add the coconut ashtray and Tiki lamp to the Ctypto list.
Good luck on your search.
DC
 
 
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Phillip Roberts Tiki Socialite
Joined: Sep 09, 2003 Posts: 1496 From: OAHU, Hawaii.
| Posted: 2012-05-31 8:59 pm  Permalink
Aloha,
Yes, WELL done Tony! I did recently find the Triangle Diamondhead mug from the HHV. I did not have it previously...
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TIKIWAGON Grand Member (5 years)
Joined: Sep 09, 2002 Posts: 288 From: England
| Posted: 2012-06-05 1:55 pm  Permalink
Thats amazing work finding that out Tony,Sherlock Holmes has nothing on your detective work so i doff my deerstalker to you!I wonder if any other stuff from the Beachcomber survived?
 
 
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