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Crypto-Mugs. Do these legends exist and who has them?
Formikahini
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Posted: 2010-03-03 4:45 pm   Permalink

Update:
Mine have 6!

And when I stare at the 1990 Mai Kai one there, I lean towards 6.
So perhaps the 7 ring glass is an artist's artistic license after all?

Or is the *7* ring the Crypto Glass! HA!
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hiltiki
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Posted: 2010-03-03 8:51 pm   Permalink


Here are the ones I have, two next to each other, one with 6 rings and one with 7 rings.







 
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Unga Bunga
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Posted: 2010-03-03 11:26 pm   Permalink

[quote]
On 2010-03-03 09:47, Formikahini wrote:
Quote:

And as late as 1990



What was this thread about?

Damn!


 
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SufferinSimon
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Posted: 2010-03-04 12:06 am   Permalink

This might clear things up a bit, 7-ring pearlescent.

Georgie Rudin's Tropics here in Dayton, Ohio used these for the Bikini drink.


 
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Sabu The Coconut Boy
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Posted: 2010-03-04 12:28 am   Permalink

Very nice, SufferinSimon!

I'm glad I'm not the only one having trouble finding those ribbed glasses. I also wonder what the correct bar-supply name is for that style glass. I'd love to see an old supplier-invoice.

Here's another good image from the Las Vegas Aku Aku menu:


I found six of this smaller ruby red glass by Imperial:


For an instant I thought I had found the Bali Beach pictured in this menu, but no such luck.


Still, I like the glasses and wonder what would be a good cocktail to serve in them.

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Sabu The Coconut Boy
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Posted: 2010-03-04 12:42 am   Permalink

KC - That Tonga Tabu mug from the Kalua Room is outstanding! The texture so similar to their drum mug.

Another question: Does your prototype bowl match up with this image from one of the Bartender Guides:?


...or are the characters on it actual gremlins as well?


DustyCajun - Those mugs from the Tahitian are excellent additions. I don't think I've ever seen them outside of those menu pictures either. The "Smog Cutter" was a very clever name for the time. Back in the 60s and 70s, Pasadena was one of the smoggiest cities in California. I remember dreading when we had to visit relatives there because my lungs would hurt the whole next day. The Clean Air act sure changed things.

GatorRob - nice find on those Derby Daquiri glasses and thanks for the close-up photo! I think they were manufactured by Morgantown. I've seen them sold once or twice on eBay by glass dealers using the Morgantown name. Here's another vintage image for you to geek out on:



ron-tiki - Another fantastic find with those Fogcutter mugs. I would have never known, had I seen them. Nice to match them up to that Outrigger Club menu.



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Sabu The Coconut Boy
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Posted: 2010-03-04 12:49 am   Permalink

Back to the Las Vegas Aku Aku menu:

Has anyone found any piece of their custom glassware? (I think the Grogg and the Mai Kai Swizzle glasses are probably the same)

















They also had this custom-printed bamboo glass


I don't think I've seen this generic shell bowl either:



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Tipsy McStagger
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Posted: 2010-03-04 05:03 am   Permalink


I had mentioned in an aku aku thread way back that i met a woman who owned a shop in vegas and used to work wait tables at the aku-aku back in the day...the bamboo mugs were discontinued early due to sanitation issues because they were made of bamboo and could harbor bacteria...they should be pretty hard to find.


 
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GatorRob
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Posted: 2010-03-04 08:31 am   Permalink

hiltiki and SufferinSimon, thanks! Looks like you might have the real deal there. Although... Kern had told me once that the Mai-Kai ones they used to order were clear, not pearly. The Mai-Kai continued to order them until they couldn't get them anymore. As I recall, he didn't know who supplied them, but said they used to order a lot of glassware from Libbey. However, I haven't spotted it in any catalog yet.

Formikahini - Definitely 7 rings for the Mai-Kai ones and it seems like it's that way for the all the photos and illustrations I've seen on menus where you can see the whole glass, such as in Sabu's photo and here





Since Swanky brought up the aluminum 151 Swizzle/Rum Swizzle cup (on left above), does anyone have one? I don't think they are that terribly rare, but I don't exactly see them at Crate and Barrel either. I actually haven't really looked for them. I think the Mai-Kai still uses them or one similar?

Sabu - Yes, Morgantown Glass made the Derby Daiquiri glasses. I've seen them three different ways: with the stem amber, clear or frosted. But the Mai-Kai used the amber ones like in the photo I posted. And I wonder about the accuracy of that Bali Beach menu illustration. That seems awfully top heavy to me. Maybe you do have the right one?


 
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SufferinSimon
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Posted: 2010-03-04 10:36 am   Permalink

Sabu & GatorRob,
The ribbed glasses were made by Dunbar Glass and the pattern is called Aramis.
They were available in many colors and I'd bet that Dunbar supplied the clear
ones.


 
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Unga Bunga
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Posted: 2010-03-04 11:39 am   Permalink

Quote:

On 2010-03-04 10:36, SufferinSimon wrote:
Sabu & GatorRob,
The ribbed glasses were made by Dunbar Glass and the pattern is called Aramis.
They were available in many colors and I'd bet that Dunbar supplied the clear
ones.


I found a pair dated back to 1936.


 
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GatorRob
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Posted: 2010-03-04 2:05 pm   Permalink

Quote:

On 2010-03-04 10:36, SufferinSimon wrote:
Sabu & GatorRob,
The ribbed glasses were made by Dunbar Glass and the pattern is called Aramis.
They were available in many colors and I'd bet that Dunbar supplied the clear
ones.


Yeah, I know. I have several colors of them from Dunbar. I'm just skeptical because of the fragility of those. Maybe they made other more heavy duty ones for restaurants though. Or another company picked up on the design and made them. What's also interesting to me is that, like those once-ubiquitous green/yellow ceramic tiles, the use of these glass started somewhere (where?!? Don's?) and then proliferated everywhere.


 
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GatorRob
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Posted: 2010-03-04 3:51 pm   Permalink

Quote:

On 2010-03-04 00:49, Sabu The Coconut Boy wrote:
Back to the Las Vegas Aku Aku menu:

Has anyone found any piece of their custom glassware? (I think the Grogg and the Mai Kai Swizzle glasses are probably the same)


The thing is, none of the Aku Aku glassware is terribly interesting other than the "Aku Aku" on the side and the logo tiki, which of course makes it interesting. Hope some of these surface.


 
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Sabu The Coconut Boy
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Posted: 2010-03-04 4:24 pm   Permalink

I've found the salad plates before with that logo, so I assume the glasses shouldn't be impossible to find. I'm happy collecting double-rocks glasses, so I'd be satisfied with finding a single mai-tai glass. But if you're a AKU-AKU completest, you've got to find all six or seven shapes! That's quite a challenge.

Dunbar Glass made clear versions of that Aramis glass, but that seemed to be the least-favored color of their production. Like most Depression Glass, the colors were more popular. The company folded in 1953 so someone had to be making that design afterwards for the restaurant biz. Some employees from Dunbar went on to found Kanawha Glass, but they seem to have focused on making Carnival and Crackle glass. I can't find any evidence that they made the Aramis design as well.

I'm betting that some other company (like Libbey or Anchor Hocking) got the rights to that design and made a heavier restaurant version. But we'll never know until/unless someone finds one. Until then, I may try to accumulate a few of the Dunbar clear examples from the 30s & 40s.

I really appreciate the info on Dunbar in any case. Muchas Gracias!


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Dustycajun
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Posted: 2010-03-04 5:44 pm   Permalink

A couple of entries.

Tiki Pugs mom found two of these Keg o Rum barrels from the South Pacific in Hallandale Florida.


The mug is featured on the illustrated menu



and postcard mailer.



First time I had ever seen one of these.

Also, here is a mai tai glass from the Tahiti Nui in Kauai with the signature Tiki that has not surfaced before.




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