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thePorpoise
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From: Tampa Bay
|  Posted: 2011-01-30 9:56 pm Permalink
so is the Pernod produced LH 151 a good score, or not?
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Brandomoai
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From: Edmonton, AB, Canada
| Posted: 2011-01-31 12:32 pm Permalink
It pisses me off that we have all these cases of LH151 sitting in a warehouse in Southern Ontario and no one in Canada can have access to it! I just hope that the new production run will eventually be made available here. If not, it's time for some Black Bloc-style action at Mosaiq's office. Who's with me?
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On 2011-01-30 21:56, thePorpoise wrote:
so is the Pernod produced LH 151 a good score, or not?
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Yes, it's a good score. If you find some, buy it. Sounds like it's going to be a long time before the new run hits the market and these last remnants are likely to fetch an exaggerated market price when they are finally made available.
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Rum guy
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From: Caribbean
| Posted: 2011-02-10 7:00 pm Permalink
After spending most of the day at the Mosaiq offices in Montreal today, I can report that there are plans to sell some Lemon Hart 151 in Canada at some point. There are a few issues that have to be addressed, labels, bottles, supply of product etc.
At this point there are no plans to sell any Lemon Hart 80 in the US in the near future. Hopefully that will change in the coming months, but that's the plan at the moment.
At this point I'm waiting on the label approval from the TTB so the last of the Lemon Hart 151 can be imported from Canada. Today the TTB online site is down until Monday. Hopefully the TTB will find time to review the application next week, but there are no guarantees.
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Rum guy
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From: Caribbean
| Posted: 2011-02-11 07:42 am Permalink
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On 2011-01-31 12:32, Brandomoai wrote:
It pisses me off that we have all these cases of LH151 sitting in a warehouse in Southern Ontario and no one in Canada can have access to it! I just hope that the new production run will eventually be made available here. If not, it's time for some Black Bloc-style action at Mosaiq's office. Who's with me?
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On 2011-01-30 21:56, thePorpoise wrote:
so is the Pernod produced LH 151 a good score, or not?
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Yes, it's a good score. If you find some, buy it. Sounds like it's going to be a long time before the new run hits the market and these last remnants are likely to fetch an exaggerated market price when they are finally made available.
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The reason the Lemon Hart in Ontario isn't available is the label is for the US Market and not the Canadian market. There isn't enough French on the label. Don't expect an exaggerated market price, no one wants to kill this product or alienate the people that know and loved this brand.
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Rum guy
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From: Caribbean
| Posted: 2011-02-19 06:36 am Permalink
Last night at 9:39pm I got an email (automated) from the TTB notifying that the Use Up Permit has been approved for the last 481 cases of Lemon Hart 151 to be imported to the US. It will take a couple of weeks for it to be trucked to New Jersey where it will be distributed around the US. There is still a lot of paperwork to be filed, taxes to be paid and state regulatory stuff to be done, but this is a HUGE step in the right direction. Unfortunately, the TTB website is currently down so I can't print the approved label and send it to distributors yet. Hopefully, the TTB will be more cooperative next week.
Currently, the plan is to ship to New York, California, Colorado, Illinois, Hawaii and Washington DC once this rum has been imported and state registrations are in place.
If you are looking for Lemon Hart 151 in your state, have your best liquor store have their favorite distributor contact Caribbean Spirits Inc.
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heylownine
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From: Agoura Hills, CA
| Posted: 2011-02-20 09:55 am Permalink
Thanks for the update. I visited the liquor store I used to buy Lemon Hart 151 from yesterday (the only one I know of in a 30 mile radius) and was less than successful in engaging them in a conversation about contacting their distributor. I'm crossing my fingers that it's an item they'll still order once their distributor gets ahold of it.
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Kill Devil
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From: Chicago
| Posted: 2011-02-22 12:32 pm Permalink
I've heard that the Binny's chain in Chicago should be carrying LH151 by this Summer. They're certainly following the situation, which is good to hear.
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Rum guy
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From: Caribbean
| Posted: 2011-03-08 7:24 pm Permalink
The shipment of 481 cases of Lemon Hart 151 were cleared by US Customs and the FDA early this evening near Buffalo, NY. While I can't say this is the last hurdle to get this rum to you, it is by far the highest hurdle in the process. For a list of retailers check the Ministry of Rum detail page for Lemon Hart 151. As distributors and retailers are confirmed, I'll add them to the places to find this rum in the US.
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heylownine
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From: Agoura Hills, CA
| Posted: 2011-03-08 8:32 pm Permalink
Woo...excellent news. I hope to be toasting it with a 151 Swizzle this weekend.
thanks,
kevin
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Rum guy
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From: Caribbean
| Posted: 2011-03-10 6:27 pm Permalink
Hold on to your swizzle for a couple more weeks. The inventory is in NJ and the first shipments will go out from there tomorrow morning. Then expect a week on the road to SF and then a few more days to get to So Cal. I don't even have a bottle for myself at this point. Talk about frustration. And today I sent a $23,000 check to Customs & Border Protection. I hope someone feels safer now.
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heylownine
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From: Agoura Hills, CA
| Posted: 2011-03-12 12:17 pm Permalink
Yikes, $23,000 and you don't yet have a bottle to show for it yet!
The very least I can do is lift my glass in a 151 Swizzle toast when it gets out to California.
Thank you for your efforts and your updates. 
kevin
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Vic Arpeggio
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From: Playa del Rey, CA
| Posted: 2011-03-12 5:59 pm Permalink
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On 2011-02-10 19:00, Rum guy wrote:
After spending most of the day at the Mosaiq offices in Montreal today, I can report that there are plans to sell some Lemon Hart 151 in Canada at some point. There are a few issues that have to be addressed, labels, bottles, supply of product etc.
At this point there are no plans to sell any Lemon Hart 80 in the US in the near future. Hopefully that will change in the coming months, but that's the plan at the moment.
At this point I'm waiting on the label approval from the TTB so the last of the Lemon Hart 151 can be imported from Canada. Today the TTB online site is down until Monday. Hopefully the TTB will find time to review the application next week, but there are no guarantees.
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Argh! I have only a little of the Lemon Hart 80 left (I managed to squirrel away a couple of bottles of 151, which I go through more infrequently. I bought a bottle of the El Dorado 5 today, but it lacks the depth of the Lemon Hart. Is the El Dorado 15 better?
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heylownine
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From: Agoura Hills, CA
| Posted: 2011-03-12 7:48 pm Permalink
I have defaulted to El Dorado 5 year as my "regular" 80-proof demerara but in my opinion you're right...it's not as good as the Lemon Hart 80. I've had both the El Dorado 12 and 15 and I like them both a lot. In fact, I may spend a couple more dollars a bottle and make the 12 year my default 80-proof demerara.
I've got 2 bottles of Lemon Hart 80 left. I wish I didn't have to ration.
kevin
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jokeiii
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From: Miami
| Posted: 2011-03-15 7:28 pm Permalink
I personally prefer the ElDorado 12 to LH80 and makes for the best substitution, the 15 is great, but "too good" to be a straight substitute.
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Rum guy
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From: Caribbean
| Posted: 2011-03-16 07:55 am Permalink
I agree that El Dorado 12 is an upgrade to LH 80 or El Dorado 5, it's a few more dollars but I'm worth it.
In the last week, Lemon Hart 151 Demerara Rum has shipped to IL, CA and CO. Orders are waiting for shipment to DC, LA and HI. NY and Texas are waiting on more paperwork. The job isn't done until all the i's are dotted and the t's crossed.
Retail stores will be posted on the Lemon Hart page of the Ministry of Rum site as soon as retail orders are confirmed from the distributors.
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