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Lemon Hart 151
TeeKeeMan
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From: Fresno, CA
Posted: 2010-05-22 4:15 pm   Permalink

I've never been able to get Lemon Hart at all in Fresno (had to mail order). Perhaps if the distribution gets shaken up, some will show up locally and save me some shipping costs...

 
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uncle trav
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From: Kalamazoo
Posted: 2010-05-22 4:22 pm   Permalink

Just got the last bottle of 151 in Kalamazoo.

 
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rangda
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From: MA USA
Posted: 2010-05-24 09:03 am   Permalink

I (and others) have written directly to Demerara Distillers, which has confirmed the demise of LH. Those of us who have written have requested that they consider releasing the LH 151 rum under the El Dorado branding. I would encourage anyone interested in seeing it become available again to write a polite request:

For those in the US:

demdus@bellsouth.net

If you're not in the US, here's the contact info:

http://www.demrum.com/contact/ddl.cfm

A sales rep was kind enough to reply to my email, and indicated that there had been some industry pressure to continue making the product available. But obviously, the more voices there are, the more likely we are to be heard.

For those interested in following the discussion at Ministry of Rum:

http://www.ministryofrum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=4157


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Swanky
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Posted: 2010-05-24 11:56 am   Permalink

I emailed and got this reponse:

Quote:
Thank you for your correspondence on the Lemon Hart 151 and we note your suggestion regarding continuing it's production which will be forwarded for consideration to the distillery in Guyana. You may be interested to learn that we have received other similar sentiments from consumers and bar owners which have all been passed on and you may even want to try our El Dorado High Strength Rum (151) which however is white.


Thanks again for your comprehensive email and please be assured that in the event this product becomes available again we will certainly keep you advised.


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arriano
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Posted: 2010-05-24 3:05 pm   Permalink

Must be nice to get a response. I emailed them about a week and a half ago asking what the plans were for LH in the U.S. and got a whole lotta nuthin'.


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rangda
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Posted: 2010-05-24 4:20 pm   Permalink

My response said essentially the same thing Swanky's did, but interestingly the wording is slightly different. Which implies some poor soul is hand typing this response each time. Flood him with requests and make his fingers sore.

 
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CucamongaChango
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From: Denver, CO
Posted: 2010-05-24 5:42 pm   Permalink

I got the last bottle off the shelf at Argonaut today.
I think I'll go hunt for a couple more tomorrow.


 
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Slacks Ferret
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Posted: 2010-05-24 6:38 pm   Permalink

I saw quite a bit of the regular unleaded version in a liquor store the other day up here in Canada, but I've NEVER seen the 151 version up here. Perhaps that will change soon.



 
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Brandomoai
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From: Edmonton, AB, Canada
Posted: 2010-05-25 06:37 am   Permalink

Quote:

On 2010-05-24 18:38, Slacks Ferret wrote:
I saw quite a bit of the regular unleaded version in a liquor store the other day up here in Canada, but I've NEVER seen the 151 version up here. Perhaps that will change soon.





THAT would be great! As far as I know, it's not available anywhere in Canada. I still see LH on the shelves here, with no indication that availability is going to be a problem. I have to say, it seems wrong to let this company trademark "Demerara rum". We have lots of rums here still using that label, although El Dorado only hit the shelves within the last year around these parts.


 
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Kahuna Tiki
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Posted: 2010-05-26 07:47 am   Permalink

Thought I'd chime in with my experiences with Lemon Hart rum.

I've often seen references to Lemon Hart rum in the past, but had never seen or tried it until a friend of mine went out to BC awhile ago. I did some surfing and found that they carry Lemon Hart at some of the liquor stores in BC, so I had her bring me back a bottle. She brought me back a litre. It was love at first sip.

Before going any further, I have to say that I've NEVER seen or heard of Lemon Hart 151 in Canada. The stuff I've had was 80 proof.

Now, there are a couple of interesting facts about Lemon Hart in Canada. First, if you look at the back label, you'll notice it says (in fine print) something like "a delicious blend of Guyanese and Canadian rum". What this means is that it is bottled in Canada, not imported into Canada. El Dorado is bottled in Guyana and imported into Canada. Lemon Hart is shipped in bulk and blended (under Canadian law) with "10% Canadian spirits". What exactly that is, I couldn't tell you. Canadian rum? Grain alcohol? If anyone knows, please enlighten me. Whatever it is, it doesn't affect the flavor at all, let me tell you.

The second thing that is interesting is that, up until Mosaiq purchased the brand, Corby's blended Lemon Hart right here in Ontario. In Windsor. And yet, the LCBO (the Ontario liquor nazis, as I like to think of them) don't carry the brand. Instead, Corby's ships it to other provinces in Canada. Is this fair? Hell no! But at least we do have the El Dorado brand on the shelves, so that's some consolation.

And now a short anecdote: after having tried Lemon Hart and enjoying it immensely, I contacted Corby's and found out that their Canadian head office is right here in Toronto. Fantastic. I told the rep there that I wanted to purchase a case of Lemon Hart and he was very helpful in coordinating the purchase through the LCBO. I paid a deposit with my credit card and was told that the shipment would arrive in about two weeks. About two weeks later, I received notification from the LCBO that my shipment was in, and to contact them. I did so, paid the balance with my credit card and arranged for shipment to my nearest LCBO outlet. The next day, I received another call from the LCBO that they could not find my shipment, and would have to refund the cost to my credit card. I was livid. I contacted the Corby's rep and asked if he could help. He knew the manager at the LCBO main warehouse and told me he would contact him. Later that day, he called back and said that not only had the LCBO lost my shipment, but had lost two others from Corby's as well. But, as consolation, the Corby's rep sent me a free bottle of Lemon Hart. He did say that the brand had just been sold to a Quebec company, Mosaiq, and wished me well trying to deal with them.

I have since sent emails to Mosaiq, including the four main 'partners', requesting assistance trying to order a case of Lemon Hart. I have yet to get a response.

Sorry for being long-winded. I hope this sheds some light on the subject.





 
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croe67
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From: Land of Cheese & Beer
Posted: 2010-05-26 08:33 am   Permalink

While it's not listed on their website, DrinkUpNY also can get Lemon Hart for a reasonable price.

Both the 80 & the 151.

Because they do not normally carry it in their inventory, prices are higher (not sure how high) for not ordering a full case.
& they ship anywhere in the lower 48.

A group of us just ordered a case of each to split-up amongst us & all went perfectly with the order - arrived yesterday

AND - the website also includes 90 different rums, so you may find some other things of interest, too!
www.DrinkUpNY.com

But you've got to call them on the Lemon Hart if you're interested, since it's not normally something they stock (but maybe we can get them to stock it!) it's not on the website.





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SuperEight
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From: Palo Alto
Posted: 2010-05-26 9:31 pm   Permalink

I just got back from Beltramo's in Menlo Park, Ca (they have a web site and do mail order) and they have Lemon Hart 151 in stock. They got one case when I clued them in to the rumors 3 weeks ago, and in the following weeks picked up 5 cases. Two are already gone. That kind of concern for their customers is why they get all of my business. All three colors of Senior Curacao, a fantastic rum selection that is numerous and well considered, fresh limes, and a huge aisle of mixers and syrups make me feel blessed to have them one town over. And this is at a place that is primarily a wine shop. Folks on the peninsula, you better pay them a visit. They are hoarding the 151 for your benefit.

 
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arriano
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From: Dog Patch - San Diego
Posted: 2010-05-29 09:08 am   Permalink

I was just thinking: What are all the tiki bars and restaurants planning to do that use Lemon Hart 151 on a regular basis - seems to me that Trader Vic's, Tiki Ti, Mai Kai, Don the Beachcomber, etc etc would have better knowledge of the situation.


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CincyTikiCraig
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Posted: 2010-05-29 10:45 pm   Permalink

Ed Hamilton who runs the Ministry of Rum website, and is one of the most informed rum professionals in the industry today has more about the issues regarding Lemon Hart in this thread:

http://www.ministryofrum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=4157

I've already given up on LH 151 and I'm substituting Gosling's 151 as it's far and away the most flavourful 151 on the market aside from LH.


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Rum Balls
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Posted: 2010-06-01 06:51 am   Permalink

As mentioned in page 2 of the Ministry of Rum thread, there is plenty of LH 151 on the shelves around Oregon. The 80 proof is harder to find, but I did score a few bottles over the weekend, and more were on the shelf. PM me if you want to know where that store is.
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