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lucas vigor
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Posted: 2010-05-18 10:48 am   Permalink

Quiet Nights was the English manifestation of "Corcovado" so, yes, you are right!

Yes sir, please let me know what you think after hearing!

Bossa Nova, while not Tiki, shares many of the same sentiments, and is from roughly the same time period (or at least shortly after)...I see it as a logical successor in many ways, so I am proud to be one of the people who tries to share it with others!
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Dr. Zarkov
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Posted: 2010-05-18 10:53 am   Permalink

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On 2010-05-18 09:52, Vince Martini wrote:
Hey Lucas, isn't "Quiet Night and Quiet Stars" actually "Corcovado?"

I had to ask since "Corcovado" is one of my fav-o-rite tunes! When I have a chance, I look forward to segue-ing over and give these tunes a listen, L.V. (work computer will not let me access MySPace).

Mahalo!

[ This Message was edited by: Vince Martini 2010-05-18 09:53 ]



Yes. Antonio Carlos Jobim was the composer and when U.S. jazz writer and lyricist Gene Lees was visitng Brazil he got Jobim's permission to put English language lyrics to the tune, which then took its title from the first line Lees wrote.

BTW, Lees died recently. To learn more about him, see here:
http://www.steynonline.com/content/view/3236


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Vince Martini
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Posted: 2010-05-18 5:32 pm   Permalink

Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah, Lucas!!! you are also doing another favorite of mine -- Fred Rose' 1946 classic, "Roly Poly" which (of course) was recorded by Bob Wills and the Texas Playboys. I am a big Bob Wills fan, which is why my band covers this very song. It is no surprise that Bob and the boys took this song up to #3 on the Hit Parade chart back in 1946-1947.

As for your version of "Girl Talk/Night and Day?" Bravo! I think Cole Porter would defnitely dig this blending of Night and Day with Bobby Troupe's tune. BTW, I have Tony Bennett's and Julie London's versions of "Girl Talk," but my favorite is actually Michael Feinstein's recording of this tune (with Maynard Ferguson) on Big City Rhythyms.

But...

I absolutely love your rendition of "Quiet Nights and Quiet Stars." Yes!!! This was perfectly reverent to the material and so tranquil, romantic and LOUNGE-TASTIC! I was just waiting for Frank to fade in with the lyrics. "...looking on the mountains and the sea, Oh, how lovely."

If you ever decide to re-record with vocals...give me a call.


@ Dr. Zarkov -- Good doctor, thank you for that link. As a song writer, a fan of the tune Corcovado and an avid listening fan of Carlos Jobim, Astrud and Joao Gilberto, that was a treat!

As for Lees assessment of "Girl from Ipanema," he could not be any more wrog or any more of a square. Having him say the swing is lost on this tune is like him saying Stan Getz ain't got no rhythym. I suspect he would have metered the tune into a total yawner. Getz not only got the tune, but he got the girl also...stealing Astrud away from Joao Gilberto (the article failed to mention that little nugget).

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lucas vigor
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Posted: 2010-05-18 5:56 pm   Permalink

Quote:

On 2010-05-18 17:32, Vince Martini wrote:
Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah, Lucas!!! you are also doing another favorite of mine -- Fred Rose' 1946 classic, "Roly Poly" which (of course) was recorded by Bob Wills and the Texas Playboys. I am a big Bob Wills fan, which is why my band covers this very song. It is no surprise that Bob and the boys took this song up to #3 on the Hit Parade chart back in 1946-1947.

As for your version of "Girl Talk/Night and Day?" Bravo! I think Cole Porter would defnitely dig this blending of Night and Day with Bobby Troupe's tune. BTW, I have Tony Bennett's and Julie London's versions of "Girl Talk," but my favorite is actually Michael Feinstein's recording of this tune (with Maynard Ferguson) on Big City Rhythyms.

But...

I absolutely love your rendition of "Quiet Nights and Quiet Stars." Yes!!! This was perfectly reverent to the material and so tranquil, romantic and LOUNGE-TASTIC! I was just waiting for Frank to fade in with the lyrics. "...looking on the mountains and the sea, Oh, how lovely."

If you ever decide to re-record with vocals...give me a call.


@ Dr. Zarkov -- Good doctor, thank you for that link. As a song writer, a fan of the tune Corcovado and an avid listening fan of Carlos Jobim, Astrud and Joao Gilberto, that was a treat!

As for Lees assessment of "Girl from Ipanema," he could not be any more wrog or any more of a square. Having him say the swing is lost on this tune is like him saying Stan Getz ain't got no rhythym. I suspect he would have metered the tune into a total yawner. Getz not only got the tune, but he got the girl also...stealing Astrud away from Joao Gilberto (the article failed to mention that little nugget).

[ This Message was edited by: Vince Martini 2010-05-18 17:35 ]



See, now THIS is the kind of feedback I like! It let's me know I am on the right track!

That Bob Wills tune is one of my favorites. It gave me a chance to play my Telecaster AND my Mandolin. I did a whole bunch of other Bob Will's tunes as well, but I ruined them by putting in vocals. RUINED them! But, I actually recorded about 7 or 8 of them because I just totally, insanely love Bob Wills. (And actually most early country). I just am not any type of a singer. Not a good tone to my voice, unfortunately. But some times, when recording and drinking a bit, I think I can sing better then I thought!

My Girl Talk harkens more to the Sergio Mendes version, but frankly ANYTHING by Bobby Troup is awesome to me. His live album "The meaning of jazz" is pretty much a reference point for me. It has the combination of a lounge singer with West Coast Jazz musicians...what's not to love? Now, I am going to have to try and find the version you are talking about.

Thank you for your compliment about my rendition of Corcovado. I have to say that Jobim might well be my favorite artist/composer/performer of all time. I have pretty much all his albums, my favorite being Wave and Terra Brasilis. And I it would sound great with a vocalist! Now it's your turn to post some videos or songs, because you sound like someone I would be interested in checking out! And PS, MAJOR Sinatra fan is what I am!

I too love the Getz/Gilberto songs. That first (or was it the second?) album was one of the first albums I ever listened to, at the age of 5 or 6...that one and Arthur Lyman "Taboo".

Again, thank you for your comments, Vince! They are MUCH appreciated!


 
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Vince Martini
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Posted: 2010-05-18 6:26 pm   Permalink

Quote:

On 2010-05-18 17:56, lucas vigor wrote:
Quote:

On 2010-05-18 17:32, Vince Martini wrote:
Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah, Lucas!!! you are also doing another favorite of mine -- Fred Rose' 1946 classic, "Roly Poly" which (of course) was recorded by Bob Wills and the Texas Playboys. I am a big Bob Wills fan, which is why my band covers this very song. It is no surprise that Bob and the boys took this song up to #3 on the Hit Parade chart back in 1946-1947.

As for your version of "Girl Talk/Night and Day?" Bravo! I think Cole Porter would defnitely dig this blending of Night and Day with Bobby Troupe's tune. BTW, I have Tony Bennett's and Julie London's versions of "Girl Talk," but my favorite is actually Michael Feinstein's recording of this tune (with Maynard Ferguson) on Big City Rhythyms.

But...

I absolutely love your rendition of "Quiet Nights and Quiet Stars." Yes!!! This was perfectly reverent to the material and so tranquil, romantic and LOUNGE-TASTIC! I was just waiting for Frank to fade in with the lyrics. "...looking on the mountains and the sea, Oh, how lovely."

If you ever decide to re-record with vocals...give me a call.


@ Dr. Zarkov -- Good doctor, thank you for that link. As a song writer, a fan of the tune Corcovado and an avid listening fan of Carlos Jobim, Astrud and Joao Gilberto, that was a treat!

As for Lees assessment of "Girl from Ipanema," he could not be any more wrog or any more of a square. Having him say the swing is lost on this tune is like him saying Stan Getz ain't got no rhythym. I suspect he would have metered the tune into a total yawner. Getz not only got the tune, but he got the girl also...stealing Astrud away from Joao Gilberto (the article failed to mention that little nugget).

[ This Message was edited by: Vince Martini 2010-05-18 17:35 ]



See, now THIS is the kind of feedback I like! It let's me know I am on the right track!

That Bob Wills tune is one of my favorites. It gave me a chance to play my Telecaster AND my Mandolin. I did a whole bunch of other Bob Will's tunes as well, but I ruined them by putting in vocals. RUINED them! But, I actually recorded about 7 or 8 of them because I just totally, insanely love Bob Wills. (And actually most early country). I just am not any type of a singer. Not a good tone to my voice, unfortunately. But some times, when recording and drinking a bit, I think I can sing better then I thought!

My Girl Talk harkens more to the Sergio Mendes version, but frankly ANYTHING by Bobby Troup is awesome to me. His live album "The meaning of jazz" is pretty much a reference point for me. It has the combination of a lounge singer with West Coast Jazz musicians...what's not to love? Now, I am going to have to try and find the version you are talking about.

Thank you for your compliment about my rendition of Corcovado. I have to say that Jobim might well be my favorite artist/composer/performer of all time. I have pretty much all his albums, my favorite being Wave and Terra Brasilis. And I it would sound great with a vocalist! Now it's your turn to post some videos or songs, because you sound like someone I would be interested in checking out! And PS, MAJOR Sinatra fan is what I am!

I too love the Getz/Gilberto songs. That first (or was it the second?) album was one of the first albums I ever listened to, at the age of 5 or 6...that one and Arthur Lyman "Taboo".

Again, thank you for your comments, Vince! They are MUCH appreciated!



But of course!!! You do not know how invigorating it is to be amidst you, Dr. Zarkoff, Koop, Digitiki and the many others who are making references to music that isn't Lynyrd Skynyrd.

I jest. It isn't that bad. After all, I am from the land that birthed Johnny Cash, Louis Jordan and Miles Davis fantabulous piano player and creator fo Schoolhouse Rock, Bob Durrough...so it isn't as dire as I make it sound. Nonetheless, I am so digging this community!

I think Getz/Gilberto is one of the top jazz albums right there with Dave Brubeck's Time Out. It is certainly one of my top 5. A close second to this one is my Herbie Mann/Joao Gilberto album.

I will get some tunes posted when we get our CD out of the studio. It should not be long now.


 
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lucas vigor
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Posted: 2010-05-18 6:34 pm   Permalink

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[ the many others who are making references to music that isn't Lynyrd Skynyrd.

I jest. It isn't that bad. After all, I am from the land that birthed Johnny Cash, Louis Jordan and Miles Davis fantabulous piano player and creator fo Schoolhouse Rock, Bob Durrough...so it isn't as dire as I make it sound. Nonetheless, I am so digging this community!


I will get some tunes posted when we get our CD out of the studio. It should not be long now.



Anyone who can mention Bob Dorough is alright in my book! Heck, anyone who even knows who Bob Dorough is is alright!!!

"Nothing like you has ever been seen before!"

Looking forward to hearing that CD! What would you describe your band's style as?
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Posted: 2010-05-18 6:44 pm   Permalink

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On 2010-05-18 09:46, GROG wrote:
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On 2010-05-16 15:46, lucas vigor wrote:
Bobby Sherman. That fucker! He and I have been enemies since before I can even remember...though I think it had something to do with my catch phrase, "Peace, Love and Lucas Vigor" (which he promptly stole and tried to pass off as his own!) Some people!



GROG thought him do good. GROG set Lucas up and him knock it out of park.
But you're right, him MUCH better at music.

P.S. Stop picking on GROG' fellow baldy, flame-hair!
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Grog RULES! (revenge of the bald guys, part 1!)





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Vince Martini
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Posted: 2010-05-18 7:37 pm   Permalink

Quote:

On 2010-05-18 18:34, lucas vigor wrote:
Quote:

[ the many others who are making references to music that isn't Lynyrd Skynyrd.

I jest. It isn't that bad. After all, I am from the land that birthed Johnny Cash, Louis Jordan and Miles Davis fantabulous piano player and creator fo Schoolhouse Rock, Bob Durrough...so it isn't as dire as I make it sound. Nonetheless, I am so digging this community!


I will get some tunes posted when we get our CD out of the studio. It should not be long now.



Anyone who can mention Bob Dorough is alright in my book! Heck, anyone who even knows who Bob Dorough is is alright!!!

"Nothing like you has ever been seen before!"

Looking forward to hearing that CD! What would you describe your band's style as?




My band is a bunch of over-aged freaks who have collectively been influenced by everything under the sun. With that said, we try to be primarily rockabilly and alt. country, but we also segue into blues, jazz influenced rock, lounge, psychobilly, swamp rock and last but not least...the white man overbite better known as funk. But...let me go back to what I said at the top, we are a rockabilly/alt. country band.


 
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woofmutt
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Posted: 2010-05-19 7:46 pm   Permalink

Although you and I are are locked in a blood pact and must fight to the death should we ever meet face to face I am really, really impressed.

So much so that I listened to the tracks for about an hour yesterday and have you plugged in right now.

My too long thoughts...

So Daco Sambo is so damn sweet. This was the first cut I listened to and I liked the sound right off but when the electric piano hit I went "Damn, I think this guy might be able to actually make good music." The piano is great, such a lively flow and nice sound. The piece is way too short for me. I want summer afternoons that are like this piece.

And then I want summer nights that move like Muito E Voltanado. I really dig the organ background you paint the piano across. This is a really great piece. It's exactly what I would want an evening cocktail party to be like.

Though I don't dislike Norah Jones or hate her big hit I could probably be fine if I never heard Don't Know Why ever again. When I heard your cover I thought "This? Why?" and 30 seconds in I had completely forgot it was a cover of a well worn song. To me that's talent. I like the interplay of guitar (or is it bass?) and piano, the guitar going abstract against the warmth of the piano. And I like the rally at the end, others would have finished off the piece in a cloying little cutesy wrap up. I'd never have guessed I could've enjoyed this song this much.

Because I've listened to your tunes about a dozen times through I wish 69 Times was at the end of the play list. It's clever, a dead on take of end of 70s/early 80s disco pop (and sounds almost exactly like music from porn movies of that era...I, uhm...Heard some tracks online or something) but it's a novelty song and harshes my buzz.

A good chicken pluckin take on Roly Poly. It's not as sing songy as most people would do it, though I feel room for just a touch of looseness (one of those hard to define observations, it's not stiff by any means). The mandolin solo is really, really swell, I could have heard that go on for a bit more. (If I heard it live I woulda been hollerin loud after the solo.) I'm crazy about Bob Wills, Milt Brown, and early country and western swing. Look forward to hearing your other tunes.

I like classical music but can't say I know much about it. Symphony #27 is pleasant, the bass whatever makes the piece. (If guessing I would think it's the one three dimensional instrument and the others are electric.)

Excellent version of Girl Talk/Night and Day. I like how it feels as if we dropped in on the piece already in progress (a blunt, suddenness to the keyboards) and then how it really takes off when Night and Day breaks in, as if the piano players martini finally hits him and he cuts loose a bit.

Quiet Nights and Quiet Stars is just plain beautiful. It perfectly captures that alone after the party feel, and Triste feels like sunrise on the morning after that party.

Not counting the western swing, classical, and porn music...You really have a solid core here for an excellent album. I think there's almost a concept album here, because for me the tunes move from a breezy summer afternoon into the evening, the late night, the wee hours, and dawn.

For what you claimed about "substandard" production the sound is really good, just a little thin in the back, but you compensated with strong warm leads. I have to think that the "very raw, all first takes" aspect added a warmth to the music that I often find lacking in similar endeavors. "Fixing" things might impress the experts but it could kill part of the music.

Of course the supposed rawness wouldn't matter a bit if you weren't obviously an incredibly talented musician. I particularly like your keyboard playing, it's just damned excellent, there's an amazing sense of flow that for me is an absolute necessity in good music.

I hope you see this project through. And if that doesn't happen: Burn me a CD.
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Posted: 2010-05-20 08:14 am   Permalink

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On 2010-05-19 19:46, woofmutt wrote:
Although you and I are are locked in a blood pact and must fight to the death should we ever meet face to face I am really, really impressed.

So much so that I listened to the tracks for about an hour yesterday and have you plugged in right now.

My too long thoughts...

So Daco Sambo is so damn sweet. This was the first cut I listened to and I liked the sound right off but when the electric piano hit I went "Damn, I think this guy might be able to actually make good music." The piano is great, such a lively flow and nice sound. The piece is way too short for me. I want summer afternoons that are like this piece.

And then I want summer nights that move like Muito E Voltanado. I really dig the organ background you paint the piano across. This is a really great piece. It's exactly what I would want an evening cocktail party to be like.

Though I don't dislike Norah Jones or hate her big hit I could probably be fine if I never heard Don't Know Why ever again. When I heard your cover I thought "This? Why?" and 30 seconds in I had completely forgot it was a cover of a well worn song. To me that's talent. I like the interplay of guitar (or is it bass?) and piano, the guitar going abstract against the warmth of the piano. And I like the rally at the end, others would have finished off the piece in a cloying little cutesy wrap up. I'd never have guessed I could've enjoyed this song this much.

Because I've listened to your tunes about a dozen times through I wish 69 Times was at the end of the play list. It's clever, a dead on take of end of 70s/early 80s disco pop (and sounds almost exactly like music from porn movies of that era...I, uhm...Heard some tracks online or something) but it's a novelty song and harshes my buzz.

A good chicken pluckin take on Roly Poly. It's not as sing songy as most people would do it, though I feel room for just a touch of looseness (one of those hard to define observations, it's not stiff by any means). The mandolin solo is really, really swell, I could have heard that go on for a bit more. (If I heard it live I woulda been hollerin loud after the solo.) I'm crazy about Bob Wills, Milt Brown, and early country and western swing. Look forward to hearing your other tunes.

I like classical music but can't say I know much about it. Symphony #27 is pleasant, the bass whatever makes the piece. (If guessing I would think it's the one three dimensional instrument and the others are electric.)

Excellent version of Girl Talk/Night and Day. I like how it feels as if we dropped in on the piece already in progress (a blunt, suddenness to the keyboards) and then how it really takes off when Night and Day breaks in, as if the piano players martini finally hits him and he cuts loose a bit.

Quiet Nights and Quiet Stars is just plain beautiful. It perfectly captures that alone after the party feel, and Triste feels like sunrise on the morning after that party.

Not counting the western swing, classical, and porn music...You really have a solid core here for an excellent album. I think there's almost a concept album here, because for me the tunes move from a breezy summer afternoon into the evening, the late night, the wee hours, and dawn.

For what you claimed about "substandard" production the sound is really good, just a little thin in the back, but you compensated with strong warm leads. I have to think that the "very raw, all first takes" aspect added a warmth to the music that I often find lacking in similar endeavors. "Fixing" things might impress the experts but it could kill part of the music.

Of course the supposed rawness wouldn't matter a bit if you weren't obviously an incredibly talented musician. I particularly like your keyboard playing, it's just damned excellent, there's an amazing sense of flow that for me is an absolute necessity in good music.

I hope you see this project through. And if that doesn't happen: Burn me a CD.




Woof, that is just about the most detailed and helpful review anyone has ever done for me, and it is basically what i have always hoped to hear. As a musician, we often work in a vaccumm, only listening to our own stuff with an assumption that it sounds ok, but no real clue because we just can't be objective about our own performances. I think you understand what I mean. Anyway, this review is highly appreciated! Highly. And it is double important to me, because I think you mean it.

For So Daco Samba, it was a bit short...kind of on purpose, because things I have done in the past tended to go on an on...I wanted to finally keep something succint.

The organ sound on Muito...I am glad someone noticed it because it was my favorite sound on that song! I am a big fan or good organ sounds (like Jackie Davis) and was trying to sort of copy the organ sound Jim Tikiyaki gets sometimes.

Don't know why: My earliest recordings when I was younger were mostly progressive and avante-garde, so at times I wanted to do a song so straightforward that it is out of character for me. Something more down to earth. I wanted this song to have that 70's "new York sound" (like a opening theme for some cop show or something) and I guess I wanted a Bob james feel. The "guitar" is actually a 6 string electric bass. You have good ears!

69 times. Yeah, I ain't much of a singer! But that's a song I actually recorded years ago, and the reason I included it was that I use the myspace to try and get gigs and jobs...so I wanted people to hear electric bass played in the funk style.

Quiet nights, triste, I think everyone likes those songs. I can figure why. They are just stunning, beautiful melodies no matter who performs them. Jobim new what he was doing! I wanted to set a really calm mood on those, so I used brushes on a newspaper for the percussion!

The classical music was Mozart's 27th symphony, one of my favorites because to me, Mozart (Like Bach) understood bass and put good bass parts in his music that always manage to still provide "bass" while also playing the main melody. For some jazz gigs, people require arco style bass playing, so I wanted to show any potential employer that I could play a bit of that style. (still learning, of course, with weekly lessons!)

Anyway, I really want to thank you for taking the time to help me out. This means a lot to me. Not even because they were words I wanted to hear, but really because you took the time to write them!


 
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Posted: 2010-05-20 11:14 am   Permalink

Lucas...

Enough feedback now. Release a damn CD !

If you need help...holla....i'll help. You're a bro' AND a super talented cat, so I think the world would be a better place if you released a CD commercially.

C'mon man, get to it !


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Posted: 2010-05-20 12:02 pm   Permalink

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Lucas...

Enough feedback now. Release a damn CD !

If you need help...holla....i'll help. You're a bro' AND a super talented cat, so I think the world would be a better place if you released a CD commercially.

C'mon man, get to it !






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Posted: 2010-05-20 12:10 pm   Permalink

Third.

 
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Posted: 2010-05-20 12:16 pm   Permalink

AND MAKE SURE TO PUT ROLY-POLY ON IT!
Best Song EVER!


 
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Posted: 2010-05-26 08:01 am   Permalink

I FOURTH that !!!

Lucas, the two CDs you gave me are GREAT! You are very talented at song writing and playing all of the parts. Diverse too. From Bossa to Western Swing, you've got the mojo.



 
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