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woofmutt
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From: Seattilite Telstar
|  Posted: 2010-10-01 11:17 am Permalink
"...I have found that people who don't cook or don't regulary enjoy a good meal...and good cocktails are the first to mock these type of threads." -Atomic Tiki Punk-
I cook, I even worked for several years as the main cook at a catering joint. I like quality food and good cocktails to the point that I am one of the pickiest bastards when it comes to quality restaurants and quality bar drinks (if a cocktail costs $12 it sure as hell better amaze me). A lot of places others rave about I have no intention of ever going to again because in my opinion the quality of their food and/or drinks doesn't warrant the expense or hassle. (When it comes to food and drink I think a lot of people are blinded by flash and atmosphere.)
I generally prefer to eat my or friend's cooking as the food is far more satisfying than what I can get at a restaurant. I rarely buy baked goods at bakeries because in my opinion even highly acclaimed bakeries are rarely if ever as good as what my friends and acquaintances can make. (If anyone ever has a chance to eat anything made by silent Tiki Central member Dogbyte's, do so. She can bake and cook the ass off of any fancy schmancy boutique bakery or restaurant. Also Mr Dogbyte's makes excellent cocktails.)
So now that I've established that I'm a complete hard ass when it comes to what I consider good food and drink...I have no interest at all in the What did you "Make" for Dinner thread. It's a nice community/socializing thread but is merely a "time killer or non-informative" thread and as such belongs in Bilge.
And to be honest I seriously would rather see pictures and read about people's dining tables than the dinners they made.
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aquarj
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Joined: Apr 02, 2002
Posts: 1040
From: SF bay area, CA
| Posted: 2010-10-01 1:18 pm Permalink
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On 2010-10-01 00:17, woofmutt wrote:
Still, as awesome as a movie with a tiki in it could be I don't know if a single thread about these movies (or even TV...Are there ever any tikis in TV shows, or in ads?) is necessary, I think it would be best if everyone just starts a new thread anytime they spot a tiki in a movie or on TV. |
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Now you're talking! That's even better!
If anyone would like to stimulate discussion of tikis appearing in motion pictures, they should create a new thread based on this inspiration! They certainly shouldn't waste time searching for synonymous threads like Tikis in films. Moreover, any suggestion that synonymous threads be unified should be called out for what it is: the uptight tiki police doing what they do. As everyone knows, they particularly love picking on newcomers to scare them away.
But that's just the first step. Even better if EACH tiki movie / motion picture / film / youtube vid / scopitone discovery appears in its own thread. And that applies to other topics too. F'rinstance, if someone comes across a Trader Dick mug, say in his own garage, this does not belong in a Tiki Finds thread (or Tiki Acquisitions thread), or even a Trader Dick's thread, but in a completely new General Tiki thread whose topic is this particular discovery in this particular garage.
I am confident that this approach to populating TC with new threads will result in a much needed new level of redundancy!
-Randy
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Bora Boris
Mr. Unreasonable
Joined: Mar 25, 2005
Posts: 2402
From: Boogie Wonderland
| Posted: 2010-10-01 1:59 pm Permalink
What's Cooking At Trader Dicks?
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Mai Tai
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Joined: Mar 21, 2004
Posts: 1430
From: Exotic Isle of Alameda
| Posted: 2010-10-01 10:58 pm Permalink
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On 2010-10-01 05:41, Bora Boris wrote:
Where Would You Drive The Tiki Jeep For Dinner?
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Why, to the Mission Tiki Drive Inn, of course! (sheesh, such a simple answer - I'm gonna have to start a thread on it!)
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Slacks Ferret
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Joined: Oct 02, 2003
Posts: 1175
From: Calgary
| Posted: 2010-10-02 2:16 pm Permalink
Is the Human Centipede Tiki?
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JOHN-O
Grand Member (first year) 
Joined: May 16, 2008
Posts: 2463
From: Dogtown, USA
| Posted: 2010-10-02 3:16 pm Permalink
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On 2010-10-01 10:45, Atomic Tiki Punk wrote:
Bora Boris do you cook?
I know you are just having fun with the topic, but I have found that people
who don't cook or don't regulary enjoy a good meal (Carls Jr. does not count) and good cocktails
are the first to mock these type of threads.
I think you just need a good meal today! Can I suggest you pop over for dinner this Thursday? I'm grilling up Ribeye and mixing up Mai Tais with the good rum.
JOHN-O you're invited too !!
 After all Food was and still is an integral part of the Tiki experience.
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All right !! Thanks ATP. I'm looking forward to it. 
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Atomic Tiki Punk
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Joined: Jul 19, 2009
Posts: 4031
From: Costa Misery
| Posted: 2010-10-02 3:24 pm Permalink
John-O!!!! resorting to subterfuge to get a dinner invite, you cad,I hope we can get one more
Party in before the hot weather subsides,If you want to drive the miles I will remember to invite you!
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MadDogMike
Grand Member (3 years) 
Joined: Mar 30, 2008
Posts: 6412
From: The Anvil of the Sun
| Posted: 2010-10-02 7:53 pm Permalink
First of all, if we have a serious conversation here will we be kicked out of Bilge?
Second, Please don't take my comments as criticism of Hanford or the moderators. TC is extremely well moderated for SPAM and for rule violation, but it is not moderated for content. As attractive as that idea may be, it is probably not the answer.
I understand your frustration that TC is in danger of becoming nothing but a tiki-flavored Facebook. My questions - is the golden age of Tiki Central over? Has TC become a victim of it's own success? Was it better when there were only 200 members and there was undocumented tiki history around every corner? Where do we go from here? I'm sure I am partially to blame, I've got 3000 posts and I doubt that 5% have any real content.
Here's my assessment of the current state of TC - do you agree or disagree?
GENERAL TIKI - There is almost nothing of value posted here. Anything of real value has a place to be posted in one of the other forums
HOME TIKI BARS - Great addition. Beautiful tiki bar inspiration for every budget and space.
TIKI GALLERY - This is OK, allows you to do a semi-quick review of an artist's work without having to wade through too much fluff.
LOCATING TIKI - Seems the main benefit is to serve as an archive. 10 years ago, there was lots of tiki history to document. I'm sure there are details yet to be uncovered but the bulk has been documented and the evidence has been torn down to build condos.
TIKI TRAVEL - I don't visit this forum enough to comment
TIKI EVENTS - This forum is very active, especially California events. It seems a good thing to bring the ohana together and keep them informed of events. But none of these events could be accused of providing any tiki content.
COLLECTING TIKI - Is at least holding it's own. There are lots of serious collectors who are gracious enought to post pictures and discussions of their finds. Threads like the Crypto Mugs have brought about great discussions and discoveries
TIKI MARKETPLACE - I'm not sure this really serves any purpose, the real collectors don't need someone to tell them there is a rare mug on e-Bay, they are already bidding. In fact, they would just as soon the rest of the TC world NOT know about the mug
CREATING TIKI - CARVING - This forum is booming. The carvers are a very prolific group and are creating great and very visible works of art. They are really the ambassador of tiki to the world; their work is often set in very visible public places. Whereas hobbies like mug collections are often done in private and some of the greatest collections are never seen.
CREATING TIKI - OTHER CRAFTS - A few years ago this forum was populated by some great and active painters & ceramic artists. Now the great works of art seem to be fewer and farther between.
TIKI FOOD & DRINKS - There is some great information here about mixology and tiki food. Some of you have had your fun with the "What's for dinner" thread in which I have enjoyed making frequent posts - but I'll be the first to admit it has nothing to do with tiki.
TIKI MUSIC - This is a mixed bag. There is some great information about old bands, there are some great reviews about current music, there is also a certain amount of fluff about current bands.
OHANA - Probably adds to the "FaceBookization" of Tiki Central
FORUM OF MYSTERY - What we do here is secret
BEYOND TIKI - Whatever
BILGE - If you go swimming around in the bilge (and I always do  ), you deserve whatever you find.
TIKI SHOUT! - Should probably be renamed to just SHOUT! Anything that has to do with tiki is posted in the appropriate forum.
So there's my 2 cents worth
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woofmutt
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Joined: Mar 26, 2002
Posts: 2584
From: Seattilite Telstar
| Posted: 2010-10-02 8:09 pm Permalink
"...Is the golden age of Tiki Central over?"
I've heard that so many times it's lost all meaning.
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JOHN-O
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Joined: May 16, 2008
Posts: 2463
From: Dogtown, USA
| Posted: 2010-10-02 8:17 pm Permalink
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On 2010-10-02 19:53, MadDogMike wrote:
....is the golden age of Tiki Central over?
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Of course it is.
And Mike, "latecomers" like you and me missed out on it.
But you don't need the internet to order cocktails in the Tiki bar. THAT'S the real Tiki Culture !!
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Atomic Tiki Punk
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Joined: Jul 19, 2009
Posts: 4031
From: Costa Misery
| Posted: 2010-10-02 10:36 pm Permalink
If I can interject here...
The Mainstay of the original Tiki lifestyle was the "Tiki Bar" & the "Polynesian Restaurant"
These were places families went for dinner & Adults went to escape into a Primitive/Island decored oasis
It was all about exotic Food,Drink & Fun! That was the attraction.
The food was Indian,Polynesian/Hawaiian,Seafood, But the majority of the cuisine served was Chinese Food!
Most Tiki decored Restaurants & Bars were Chinese Restaurants period.
I grew up in the 1960s,I remember the day President Kennedy died and my family loved going to to Tiki Restaurants
of course I was way to young to drink at the time, but by the time I got my first fake ID ,I was living in Hawaii
and Orange County, Ca. in the waining days of the Tiki Bar,I did see many of the old school places close.
So what was it all about? Fun of course! it seems many TCers miss that one! it's not Rocket Science,it was about Fun,Food & Drink and escaping your everyday life,a long day at the office,a fun place to take a date etc.
So stop taking all this so seriously,your missing out on all the Fun! and yes "Food" was a major part of it!
unlike a "Jeep" or much of what most people discuss here.
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Bora Boris
Mr. Unreasonable
Joined: Mar 25, 2005
Posts: 2402
From: Boogie Wonderland
| Posted: 2010-10-02 11:15 pm Permalink
Yes, it's all about Fun until someone makes a little Fun of your very popular and going strong Food post, then it's not as much Fun until you remind us that it is Fun. Is this correct? Because that's what it sounds like. 
Ok so back to the topic, more threads I know I'd like to see ~
John-O's Guide To John-O.
Projects Never To Be Finished - Blab About Them Here.
I'm Not Into This Stuff At All But I'm Kinda Angry And Defensive.
I'm Just Here To Make Money, Teach me How To Make Money Off Of You.
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Atomic Tiki Punk
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Joined: Jul 19, 2009
Posts: 4031
From: Costa Misery
| Posted: 2010-10-02 11:42 pm Permalink
No Bora Boris,I can take the jabs,but since it is my thread being discussed, I wanted to to address
the perception that it has nothing to do with Tiki culture,Lifestyle etc.
Of course my Thread is very General on the Topic,because if we concentrated only on what was considered
Tiki Cuisine,it would not be an active thread up til now,Then what would TCers have to make fun at, A Tiki Jeep?
but by all means have all the fun with it you or anyone might care to, but I disagree with anyone who thinks
it has nothing to do with this whole Tiki Revival we got going on.
I know I sound all serious here, but believe me I am the first to laugh about it.
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woofmutt
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Joined: Mar 26, 2002
Posts: 2584
From: Seattilite Telstar
| Posted: 2010-10-03 12:31 am Permalink
"So what was it all about? Fun of course! It seems many TCers miss that one...So stop taking all this so seriously, you're missing out on all the Fun!"
I've heard that one so many times it's lost all meaning, too.
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Atomic Tiki Punk
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Joined: Jul 19, 2009
Posts: 4031
From: Costa Misery
| Posted: 2010-10-03 12:41 am Permalink
So Woofmutt,what's your point? that you are not having any fun?
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