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Wendy Cevola 11/16/17 Day two on the Big Island of Hawaii continues with a tiki surprise!
danlovestikis
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Posted: 2015-01-17 10:11 am   Permalink

hang10tiki ohhhhh I wish my sculpt had been in those wonderful photos. Maybe when I have one carved???

Tyber Tiki thank you. It takes a crafters hand to figure out all the pitfalls. When I was in grade school I had sheets of wax, razor blades and matches as toys. I would build houses and cars using these three things. My mom was great, she taught me how to figure things out.

This mold is really the easiest mold being only three pieces, it's just the size that was a challenge.

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Tyber Tiki you Wish step by steps continue....


Now that piece two of the mold has hardened the box is removed. I will not need it again. Instead as will show in another photo these two pieces are now held together by straps.


The last piece is the bottom of the mug/lamp. I dug out the blocks first and then started on removing the clay and the piece of cardboard that covered my name.


I should have not put so many bump locks on one side and none on the other.


I started to carve one and stopped to put in a wet paper towel to catch the plaster crumbs.


All done, now I have a lock on piece number two that will fill with plaster when this piece is poured.


Mold soap layers added times 4.


Since this is a small piece for the bottom be changed over to a bowl and hand mixer. I add the plaster slowly into the water.


I use the spatula while Dan mixes.


Once the plaster was just right poured in into the bottom hole slowly so all the lettering fills up without air bubbles.
I didn't see the clay debris until I saw this photo. I hope it is trapped in the center of the plaster.


I made little clay dams at the top where the two pieces join that way we can overfill that piece.


The reason for overfilling is so I can rasp the bottom flat with all 3 pieces the same. Then the mold can be slid together upright. If that center piece were shorter that would be more difficult.


This was one of the least messy days we have ever had, no leaks for trips or drops!


After putting that away and washing the tarps Dan began his routine mopping of the garage floor.


Clay dust is deadly so dusting our garage happens more frequently than dusting Dan's mug collection.


The mold is made just a few more steps. Cheers, Wendy
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LoriLovesTiki
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Posted: 2015-01-17 10:41 am   Permalink

Wendy,

The process of making a mold seems straightforward UNTIL you point out the problems like undercuts, that I would never have noticed. I guess that's what all your experience has taught you. It's still fascinating to watch! It makes me want to try one day.

As a report for you, carving is WAY easier (ie: smoother) when you carve at the right time. I carved my 2nd Hawaiian shirt platter last night at everything carved pretty smoothly without multiple strokes! IT will be even better when those new craving tools arrive. Thanks so much for finding them for me.
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Posted: 2015-01-18 07:23 am   Permalink

Spatula and a mixer
I think Dan-0 was making cookies....

I'll stick with making a Mai-Tai or 2






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danlovestikis
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Posted: 2015-01-18 09:32 am   Permalink

LoriLovesTiki if you try one just have some sort of list of steps. I did a picture board that we used the first few times. It helped me remember to use the mold soap. It would be fun to see you mold your own mug. Tiki Ano if planning to do just that.

hang10tiki I cooked a desert last night. I made it up so it didn't go too well but it was fun.

I had never used phyllo dough before so I wanted to make cherry tarts.


I made the egg white, olive oil, water mix that you spread on each sheet then sprinkle with sugar and cinnamon. I was lazy and did every third sheet. I found out that was a no no. I boiled the cherries and pecans but it didn't thicken up. I guess I should have used corn starch.


So in the end I made big crackers because there wasn't enough sugar on them and we dipped it in the runny cherry juice.


I think going to the bakery is a better idea and I'll stick to artwork.

Thank you for the drink photo in front of my art. I love those photos that you take that way.

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Tyber Tiki's HUGE Maori mug/lamp Wish mold is ready to open.


Firt I had to step back and look at the largest mold we have ever made. Will it work? Fingers crossed.


The last piece was ready to fine tune. These little clay dams


were removed so that I could


rasp the bottom flat. Making all the mold pieces on the bottom the same gives you an option for how you re-assemble the mold each time.


I carved around this piece so that it would come loose easier.


To start the process of taking the pieces apart I use my vegetable chopper and the rubber mallet.
I just hammer it between the pieces and once it lifts the top piece up you can or Dan can


lift it off. Good thing I have Dan!


He set aside the piece with the sculpt inside and


we gazed upon the important piece of the mold. It not only looked good there were no pulled off pieces of clay.
That meant that I hadn't made any undercuts. Yippee!


Now it was time to screw up. I tried to "lift" the round end piece with a chisel. I thought, "Oh no it's stuck".
That wasn't the problem. It was the weight of the sculpt holding it in place.


That was so dumb. So we removed the sculpt and then


I lifted out the end piece. Since I had made it so deep the chiseled out plaster will have no effect and will not leak.


No we placed the pieces facing a fan and put it on low to run 24/7. Each day we rotated the side facing the fan.


The mold must dry 100% so that it "sets". Then the mold will be good for a long time. If you do not wait and try to pour too soon the mold will degrade very fast and loose detail. So you have to be patient.

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I wonder what I will be posting tomorrow. Hmmmmmmmmmm. Cheers, Wendy


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Beachbumz
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Posted: 2015-01-18 11:10 am   Permalink

Wendy I love it all! I've been following your progress on Facebook but nothing beats Tiki Central..
That sculpt you created is AMAZING, That mold looks AMAZING, Wendy your AMAZING!!;)

Can't wait to see it finished up, btw I really love the way you did the bottom with your name, Nice!

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hang10tiki
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Posted: 2015-01-18 10:38 pm   Permalink

Huge mold..........

Glad u had Dan-0 to Lift it

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TikiAno
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Posted: 2015-01-19 12:35 pm   Permalink

Wendy (and Dan), congrats on another Mold-Making Victory!
Two moldy questions:

- would it be a terrible idea to start with making the first piece (of a three piece mold) as the bottom of the mug- then easier to assemble later? Does it matter?
- When drying out the finished mold, is it better to let it dry slower (like clay), rather than putting it out in the sun to dry? (I assume I may have just answered that question, since plaster IS pretty close to clay?)

Bonus question:
- Was that original piece bisqued or is it another kind of clay? I think you wrote this earlier but I clearly don't remember... ack!

Thanks for posting!



 
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danlovestikis
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Posted: 2015-01-19 8:10 pm   Permalink

Beachbumz my head exploded with all the compliments.

hang10tiki I wouldn't want to ever lift that mold. I can move it using leverage but that's it.

TikiAno

- would it be a terrible idea to start with making the first piece (of a three piece mold) as the bottom of the mug- then easier to assemble later? Does it matter?

answer all the pieces need to be made together so that they don't leak. I've tried to make the bottom piece first and it was harder than doing it the way I have shown. Either Beachbumz or Maui Rob, I can't remember which have made the bottom first so you can check out their threads because they did step by steps.


- When drying out the finished mold, is it better to let it dry slower (like clay), rather than putting it out in the sun to dry? (I assume I may have just answered that question, since plaster IS pretty close to clay?)

If you make a thin walled mold then keep it strapped together to dry. I make thick heavy molds so that I can take them apart to dry them faster. Out in the sun is just fine but the fastest way is to have a fan blowing on the mold. Sun and fan is ideal and we have done it that way. It will not shrink it just drys and becomes "thirsty" that's why it works with slip.

Bonus question:
- Was that original piece bisqued or is it another kind of clay? I think you wrote this earlier but I clearly don't remember... ack!

The huge Maori mug/lamp is Romo number 1 clay. It's very soft so it's not good for fine detail. I plan to hand carve the mug/lamp once it is poured.

Best Wishes, Wendy

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I took a holiday. Photos tomorrow, cheers, Wendy



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danlovestikis
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Posted: 2015-01-20 10:29 am   Permalink

Back to Wish List #5 and Tyber Tiki HUGE Maori mug/lamp project.

More than a week has past since making the Maori mold. 24/7 the fan has blown air on each side until it felt dry.
So now it is time to pour the first one. Here are my step by steps.

I decided to pose with the mold since Dan gets in most of the photos. Look how large the small bottom piece is in my hand. The photo shows that the sculpt was in the middle of the mold and the pouring area at the top is deep and the piece at the bottom, which I am holding is tall.


Since I rasped the bottom of all the pieces when they were together I can assemble the mold while it's upright. It doesn't really matter for assembling but sometime it matters when you take it apart.


Here goes the last piece into place.


We put the first two straps on then lowered it onto it's side and put on the last strap. We could have put it on while the mold was upright but when you put them on really tight it's better if the mold is on its side.


To start with pouring we go very slowly while I bang the side with a rubber hammer. This gets the bubbles of air to rise to the surface and pop. This also helps fill in all the detail with the clay slip.


Filled to the top.


Now I took a break. There's the Maori Sculpt with a couple of bangs to his forehead. I keep my sculpts and only break them down as I need to reuse the clay. Romo Clay can be used over and over again.


After 1 hour I went to check on the mold. The fact that the level of slip had lowered this much told me the mold was indeed dry enough to pour.


I added some more slip and let the mold sit another


hour. The slip again lowered. After 2 hours I hoped that the cast will thick enough to support its HUGE size.


Now we start to pour out the left over slip. We do it slowly to prevent the glug glug sound which will collapse the sides.


I look inside with a flash light to see if it is emptying clear to the bottom.


I can see the bottom, the flat front and the rounded backside.


We empty the side into a big bowl supported by two plastic containers with dry plaster in them.


Dan couldn't tip the mold until I removed one container.


My poor husband lifting this super heavy mold.


He drained the last bit and


put the mold which is upside down on these 2 x 4's to continue draining overnight.


Well Tyber Tiki there's more to come, that's for sure.

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Cheers, Wendy





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Tyber Tiki
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Posted: 2015-01-20 1:55 pm   Permalink

Hi Wendy, I've been traveling and just caught up on the thread from the past few days. Wow, what great progress! Seeing the pictures of you in front of the mold as well the pics of Dan lifting, strapping, tilting, pouring from the mold really illustrates just how massive this mold is. I hope Dan remembers to lift from the knees .

Tyber Tiki



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LoriLovesTiki
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Posted: 2015-01-20 7:05 pm   Permalink

That thing is just massive! I can't imagine how heavy it is!! (there's another contest for you, lol)

Amazing, just amazing. Looking forward to seeing the piece come out of the mold. Can't wait to see how you you carve it up too!!!

Fun, fun, fun!
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Kon-Hemsby
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Posted: 2015-01-21 04:48 am   Permalink

Great post. I am learning a huge amount. Thanks

 
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hang10tiki
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Posted: 2015-01-21 07:14 am   Permalink

AWESOME

Dan-0 is strong like bull

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danlovestikis
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Tyber Tiki he tries. Lifting was a challenge. I may have made more of a lamp than a mug. It held 1.5 gallons of slip. During the course of drying and firing it will shrink a little more than an inch. Even still I think it will hold more than a gallon. What have I done!!!

LoriLovesTiki that's a great idea. I will remember that for the future. It is massive. I hope it shrinks a lot in the process. Carving it will be fun. Wait until you have your tools and you'll be doing this too.

Kon-Hemsby welcome and thank you. I post each day so that I have fun messages to read. It makes it worthwhile. My thread is a connection place where we all have fun sharing and making new friends. I hope you'll be back.

hang10tiki I couldn't do these molds without his strength. He wants us to retire at 70. If he gives out on my I'll have to just paint instead. Horrors I can't give up clay, no way. Poor Dan. Thank you for the countdown photos, we love that.

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Lunchtime, back later with photos.


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Posted: 2015-01-21 12:57 pm   Permalink

So cool to see a bunch of your sculpts in one photo. And Dan's face pouring out that mold is priceless! Keep having fun and being creative
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