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Chuck Tatum is Tiki
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Posted: 2011-07-22 8:29 pm   Permalink

I know it's Pornography that got most people into computers
But for me it was Photoshop.


 
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THOR's
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Posted: 2011-07-23 09:53 am   Permalink

Well...my computer stopped me before really tricking this out and refining it further...I think I need more Ram...cus the further I got, the less responsive and slower the tools worked!! lol! But I made the beginnigs of a gold shrunken head as I had my Saturday coffee just now...!! Using "Sculptris" Just fun to fart with! I will see what I need to get this laptop better equipt... However, this took about 25 minutes and it was FUN! Where I see this tool as a great resource to ANY artists is as a "visualization tool"..a fast way to see all sides of a rough form. I could rotate this in all directions and change the surfaces/material into anything I wanted. I wish I had been able to work this more to add hair and detail...but here is my stab. I have very little experience in digital art...so all this is new fun for me. Thanks again Gene!







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GROG
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From: Tujunga
Posted: 2011-07-23 10:04 am   Permalink

GROG checked out some videos on the site, and GROG definitely want to give it a try when GROG have time. Damned Goin' Primitive mugs, can't wait until they're finished and out of GROG' hair! GROG wish GROG could just push a button on a computer and they'd be finished. Damned technology. Where is it when you need it?

Good job Mr. Thor, and thanks Gene.


 
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Chuck Tatum is Tiki
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Posted: 2011-07-23 10:40 am   Permalink

I have messed with Z-Brush in the past, so I downloaded "Sculptris" to try
and Thor is right it's easy and fun.

I myself have not done much 3D graphics outside of Bryce 3D & Poser.


 
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Gene S Morgan
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Posted: 2011-07-24 7:22 pm   Permalink

Thor ..... It is not always memory that hangs Sculptris up. Sometimes the graphic card can't handle the load. It helps sometimes to reduce some trangles. They can add up to millions with lots of detail. I try to save a lot and shut down the program every now and then to clear out the memory junk.

 
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Gene S Morgan
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Posted: 2011-07-24 7:26 pm   Permalink

I have been really happy to see folks checking out the sculptris program. I knew some of the cool artist would come up with some cool stuff with it. I'm not one of those real artist, but I thought I'd show how I use the program. This is one of the techniques I use.

I used to sculpt clay before I got old and became allergic to clay dust. I found I could have fun with the computer instead. The Sculptris interface gives you a big ball of clay and all the tools you will need to model any kind of island art you want.





 
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Posted: 2011-07-24 7:27 pm   Permalink

Nice Thor! I downloaded it as well and it crashed once one me. Hope to get to play with it more soon!
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Gene S Morgan
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Posted: 2011-07-24 7:29 pm   Permalink

I pushed and pulled and squeezed until I got something that looked kinda like a Tiki mask. I know many of you folks are pretty adamant about having your Tikis look like the real thing. I'm sorry, I may be old, but not old enough to know what Tikis looked like before the white invaders showed up looking for souvenirs. Also, I never know when to stop and I let my imagination take over. I ended up with this gray little guy.







 
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Gene S Morgan
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Posted: 2011-07-24 7:32 pm   Permalink

The next step is to render. For those of you not familiar with 3D programs, rendering is like taking a photo of your finished work. You can control the light and shadow and even how the surface looks. I chose a cartoon like surface material with a limited poster like pallet.






 
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Gene S Morgan
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Posted: 2011-07-24 7:35 pm   Permalink

Now for the part that seems to rub you traditional artist folks the wrong way so much. I started filtering in photoshop. I want to control the surface texture and color. I worked in clay long enough to know that surface treatment is a very important to a final sculpture. It was always exciting to peak in my kiln and see how those beautiful glazes sparkled on my hand made artwork. I see filtering as the same as glazing. It is surface treatment. Like in the old days when I dug clay and pulled ashes out the fireplace to make my own glazes, I try to use filters that I designed myself to create the surface of my work. I know it ain't great art but I like it.







 
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Gene S Morgan
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Posted: 2011-07-24 7:40 pm   Permalink

I did another render of the same sculpture with a bit of a variation of the surface material. It is subtle but different enough to give me a different canvass to apply my texture and color magic to.






 
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Gene S Morgan
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Posted: 2011-07-24 7:45 pm   Permalink

The resulting image is the same but different. It is like a loose watercolor painted on a rough surfaced wall. Is it art? Well I'm not much of and artist, so maybe not. But just think of how some of you other folks can use this program to at least practice sculpting or make models to use for reference on big real pieces. I'd love to see some of your work posted here. For more examples check out my T-shirt site. Some of the designs in the humor section of the goofy guys use sculptris' paint mode.







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THOR's
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Posted: 2011-07-25 07:42 am   Permalink

GENE!!! SUPER SUPER COOL!!! LOVE the "masks"...!!! I will look into the "card" and triangles issue and try that. I am not sure how to "reduce " the number of triangles...is that an option in "Sculptris". Also, regarding gettin grid of the accumulating junk data...do you mean to clean the cache on my computer...re-start..etc? Sorry if these are simple questions....I am having fun but still fairly new at digital stuff. One thing I wish was different on Sculptris is the fact you have to choose either "symetrical" sculpt or not and it's "irresversible". I would love to save time, say by sculpting in "symetrical" mode..a face. THEN...switch to asymetrical and adjust for organic differences and variations...as in real life. Do you know any way around this draw back or is that just something one has to accept?

Thanks for bringing this toy into this thread..it's a sort of "tactile" way to suggest digital art as a tool for traditional skills! I have done a lot of sculpting as well in my career and also raised, as a kid with there being a can of Play-Doe always at arms reach near the kitchen table... So this little program sitting on my lap-top is like that...if I am waking up, or clearing my brain...that grey ball of cyber clay is IRRESISTIBLE! HAaaaa

Aloha! ~~T



 
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Chuck Tatum is Tiki
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Posted: 2011-07-25 11:02 am   Permalink

Thor,
First thing to do is update your "video card" drivers, then make sure you have at least 200 megabytes of free space (more is better) on your hard drive for caching.


 
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ZeroTiki
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Posted: 2011-07-25 11:22 am   Permalink

It's true...
Cyber~playdoh!
YAY!!!


 
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