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arriano
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Posted: 2012-07-31 10:14 am   Permalink

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On 2012-07-30 18:39, mcmtiki wrote:
By searching the list and the web it seems that Trader Vic's no longer sells a Navy Grog mix nor a Navy Grog concentrate -- is that true?



Not sure. The TV web store shows that its web site is currently down for maintenance. I'd check back in a week or two,

https://shoptradervics.com/

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mcmtiki
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Posted: 2012-07-31 1:53 pm   Permalink

Just e-mailed Trader Vic's HQ and got a very swift, friendly reply. In a nutshell: "Navy Grog Mix is not currently available and the Concentrate is for Trader Vic’s restaurants only."



 
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Posted: 2012-08-01 08:18 am   Permalink

I bought a bottle of the Navy Grog Mix once, and regretted wasting my $$ on it. BLECH!
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Posted: 2012-08-01 1:42 pm   Permalink

At this point, I wouldn't buy any of the Trader Vic's-branded products. They're full of HFCS and God knows what else.

 
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Posted: 2012-08-03 7:14 pm   Permalink

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On 2012-07-24 14:27, lunavideogames wrote:
I recently went to Trader Vic's downtown and I had 4 drinks. All of them were way too sweet and syrupy for my taste. I am going to try the one in Beverly Hills next month, I hope it is better. Thumbs down on all Trader Vic's drinks from me. I am sure that they are far from the original recipes at this point though.



Then I'm sorry, but the only way to rectify this problem will be flying to Tokyo to have a Mai Tai at the Trader Vic's there. I wish there was an easier way to get you a good TV Mai Tai but this is the only way.
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19tikichef62
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Posted: 2012-08-04 12:59 pm   Permalink

I came across this recipe in a 1969 book called the amateur bartenders Hawaiian friend,it's called a zombie sleepwalker-1oz dark rum-1oz light rum-1oz Jamaican rum-4 dashes cherry brandy- 4 dashes apricot brandy-1 dash papaya juice- juice of half lime-serve over ice with your favorite fruit garnish- flame with 151 If you dare-ENJOY
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lunavideogames
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Posted: 2012-08-04 3:02 pm   Permalink

Next time I am in Tokyo I'll have to try one!

 
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heylownine
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Posted: 2012-08-04 3:36 pm   Permalink

Regarding the Trader Vic's Navy Grog mix...A little over a year ago I ran across a post on sloshed.com detailing their attempts to recreate a Tiki Puka Puka from the published Trader Vic's recipe which calls for 3 ounces of said Navy Grog mix. To replicate the mix, they took to searching the internet. That led to a post by PiPhiRho here on Tiki Central and were inspired to create their version of the Navy Grog mix.

Which is just a long way of saying that one answer to Trader Vic's Navy Grog mix is right here on Tiki Central, so long as you're ok with the DIY method. Which, by the way, is totally worth it. I make mine with a bit of cardamom included and overall it's pretty darn close to Trader Vic's mix.

Mahalo to PiPhiRho for the original post detailing the DIY method!

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cvcgolf
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Posted: 2012-08-10 6:09 pm   Permalink

Make it the way the experts do it.. Just be sure you're not doing it all wrong..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UZUYP1gn-fY&list=FL-iRLqClVLzc7iImRJhrbDA&index=33&feature=plpp_video

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Dapuma1
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Posted: 2012-08-19 11:35 pm   Permalink

Yeah the TV mix they use in house is not what they sell online

If you are ONLY trying to make the Navy Grog, the recipe I posted above will taste almost identical to the Navy Grog at TV and it uses better ingredients

One of my other fav's is the Puka Puka - the Puka Puka in the Beachbum book does not taste the same, so you probably have to get friendly with your local TV bartender or break out the chemistry set and get to work


 
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mcmtiki
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Posted: 2013-07-29 2:44 pm   Permalink

I'd like some help to improve my Mai Tai. Somehow, the magic isn't quite there. Here's what I have--

Barbancourt Rhum 5 Star (8 year)
Appleton Estate Extra
Senior Curacao Orange
Torani Orgeat
Stirrings Simple Syrup
Lime

I have tried other orgeat, which to me is not so much the problem here, but I am open to suggestions. Mainly, I'm thinking I need to maybe go higher top shelf in one of the key ingredients. Is there a curacao or a rum I can update (swap for) to take this to the next level? I wondering if the Barbancourt is the weak link?

Many thanks.


 
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lunavideogames
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Posted: 2013-07-29 3:14 pm   Permalink

Barbancourt is an awesome rum for Mai Tais in my opinion, and you can get the $50 bottle of 15 year if you want to do that. Torani Orgeat is your weakest link. If you can find Finest Call (which they have had at BevMo, but I don't see anymore), it would be superior to Torani and TV, but Trader Vic's is way better than Torani. Torani is a flavoring for coffees and not meant for drinks. It overpowers the flavor even with a half shot or less making it taste too rich. Or there are threads to make your own Orgeat, which would be the best option.

Get Grand Marnier instead of Curacao. These are more costly, but make a HUGE difference. You can also get the more expensive Appleton too. Wouldn't hurt.

But yeah, I feel like the Torani is your biggest issue for flavor.

I like to put a mint leaf into the shaker when I shake it up too. Adds just a little flavor.

EDIT - Oops, I meant substitute Grand Marnier for Curacao, not Orgeat.

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lunavideogames
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Posted: 2013-07-29 3:15 pm   Permalink

And I don't use any simple syrup, sweet enough already.

 
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Sunny&Rummy
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Posted: 2013-07-29 3:21 pm   Permalink

Torani syrup is definitely the weakest link. Reather than trading up to another weak link with Finest Call or Fee Bros. orgeat, roll up your sleeves and make your own. Well worth the effort.

I wish I had ready access to Senior Curacao. I may give Ferrand Dry Curacao a try sometime soon since that seems to be a product people are liking.


 
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Atomic Tiki Punk
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Posted: 2013-07-29 3:52 pm   Permalink

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On 2013-07-29 15:14, lunavideogames wrote:
Barbancourt is an awesome rum for Mai Tais in my opinion, and you can get the $50 bottle of 15 year if you want to do that. Torani Orgeat is your weakest link. If you can find Finest Call (which they have had at BevMo, but I don't see anymore), it would be superior to Torani and TV, but Trader Vic's is way better than Torani. Torani is a flavoring for coffees and not meant for drinks. It overpowers the flavor even with a half shot or less making it taste too rich. Or there are threads to make your own Orgeat, which would be the best option.

Get Grand Marnier instead of Orgeat. These are more costly, but make a HUGE difference. You can also get the more expensive Appleton too. Wouldn't hurt.

But yeah, I feel like the Torani is your biggest issue for flavor.

I like to put a mint leaf into the shaker when I shake it up too. Adds just a little flavor.



I agree on the Barbancourt, I am a fan of the "Monin" brand of syrups they tend to be sweet, but they only use natural sugar
and the Orgeat is better then most store bought brands.

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