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What is the quintessential tiki movie?
Matt Reese
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Posted: 2013-06-09 5:38 pm   Permalink

I am in full agreement with ATP here.


 
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Atomic Tiki Punk
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From: Costa Misery
Posted: 2013-06-09 8:20 pm   Permalink

Quote:

On 2013-06-09 16:30, Thurston Howell IV wrote:
OK here's my 2 cents worth. What could be more 'tiki' than the scenes in Kim Novac's exotica boutique in Bell Book and Candle?

And I know it's old hat but the whole of the footage in South Pacific where Billis takes Lt. Joe Cable (of Cable, Cable & Cable) to the bore's tooth ceremonial is quintessential polynesia pop. That little hut in the hills where Liat is presumably deflowered by Joe Cable could be your perfect tiki bar and in fact many years later I tried to recreate the pivoting doors of that hut in my own tiki space - in this photo.




Well Mr Howell (those doors do look great) to be contrarian, those scenes in "Bell Book and Candle" are a good example of
Primitive Art & Mid-Century Modern, but not Tiki.

And "South Pacific" is a great example of South Sea's cinema style, which we associate with Tiki, but it in fact is a desperate genre
one that just may be more Tiki then Tiki, because they depict actual Island locations & exotic situations
rather then a recreation of actually visiting those places in a bar or restaurant.

Thanks Matt, People, Matt Reese is always right!

[ This Message was edited by: Atomic Tiki Punk 2013-06-09 20:22 ]


 
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Thurston Howell IV
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From: Hervey Bay Australia
Posted: 2013-06-09 9:41 pm   Permalink

Quote:

On 2013-06-09 20:20, Atomic Tiki Punk wrote:
Quote:

On 2013-06-09 16:30, Thurston Howell IV wrote:
OK here's my 2 cents worth. What could be more 'tiki' than the scenes in Kim Novac's exotica boutique in Bell Book and Candle?

And I know it's old hat but the whole of the footage in South Pacific where Billis takes Lt. Joe Cable (of Cable, Cable & Cable) to the bore's tooth ceremonial is quintessential polynesia pop. That little hut in the hills where Liat is presumably deflowered by Joe Cable could be your perfect tiki bar and in fact many years later I tried to recreate the pivoting doors of that hut in my own tiki space - in this photo.




Well Mr Howell (those doors do look great) to be contrarian, those scenes in "Bell Book and Candle" are a good example of
Primitive Art & Mid-Century Modern, but not Tiki.

And "South Pacific" is a great example of South Sea's cinema style, which we associate with Tiki, but it in fact is a desperate genre
one that just may be more Tiki then Tiki, because they depict actual Island locations & exotic situations
rather then a recreation of actually visiting those places in a bar or restaurant.

Thanks Matt, People, Matt Reese is always right!

[ This Message was edited by: Atomic Tiki Punk 2013-06-09 20:22 ]

I stand corrected, however as I always say, tiki is in the eye of the beerholder.



 
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Atomic Tiki Punk
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From: Costa Misery
Posted: 2013-06-10 12:14 am   Permalink

Quote:

On 2013-06-09 21:41, Thurston Howell IV wrote:
I stand corrected, however as I always say, tiki is in the eye of the beerholder.



Very magnanimous of you sir, But here is where I stand my ground on the matter
I am older then many TC members & I grew up in the era of Tiki which was very much a part
of California pop culture threw the 50s & 60s.

Tiki has defined roots,history & a style that is not open to re-imagining & then still being able to call it "Tiki"
sure everyone is free to do whatever they like, mix it up, reinterpret it into something else
but at that point it is no longer Tiki, It has become a mash-up of Tiki style and whatever else you have thrown in the mix
and that is fine, just don't call it "Tiki"

I have heard from some members here that "Tiki is what you make it" I would say to them "you could not be more wrong"
because they are ignoring the history of it all.

The perception I am getting from many here that Tiki is just a style that you can cut & paste into whatever you like
but at that point it is no longer Tiki because you have stripped it of its roots & history.


Thurston Howell IV please don't think this is a reaction to your post alone as I will be making this point from now on
it's time we start stirring this boat straight & true.

[ This Message was edited by: Atomic Tiki Punk 2013-06-10 01:11 ]


 
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swizzle
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Posted: 2013-06-10 01:08 am   Permalink

Yes boss.

 
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The Granite Tiki
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From: Nashua, NH
Posted: 2013-06-10 08:55 am   Permalink

Please Blue Kahuna, change the title to "Best Movies to watch in your Tiki Bar" or something like that and end this old and tired discussion!


 
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JOHN-O
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Posted: 2013-06-10 10:57 am   Permalink

Here's Bongofury's take from a few years back.

He is the expert on "Tiki" film.


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Thurston Howell IV
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From: Hervey Bay Australia
Posted: 2013-06-10 2:57 pm   Permalink

All this controversy is getting to me. I need a drink. Now see what you've done!

 
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tobunga
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Posted: 2013-06-10 8:22 pm   Permalink

[quote]
On 2013-06-09 20:20, Atomic Tiki Punk wrote:
Quote:

On 2013-06-09 16:30, Thurston Howell IV wrote:
OK here's my 2 cents worth. What could be more 'tiki' than the scenes in Kim Novac's exotica boutique in Bell Book and Candle?

And I know it's old hat but the whole of the footage in South Pacific where Billis takes Lt. Joe Cable (of Cable, Cable & Cable) to the bore's tooth ceremonial is quintessential polynesia pop. That little hut in the hills where Liat is presumably deflowered by Joe Cable could be your perfect tiki bar and in fact many years later I tried to recreate the pivoting doors of that hut in my own tiki space - in this photo.




Well Mr Howell (those doors do look great) to be contrarian, those scenes in "Bell Book and Candle" are a good example of
Primitive Art & Mid-Century Modern, but not Tiki.

And "South Pacific" is a great example of South Sea's cinema style, which we associate with Tiki, but it in fact is a desperate genre
one that just may be more Tiki then Tiki, because they depict actual Island locations & exotic situations
rather then a recreation of actually visiting those places in a bar or restaurant.

Thanks Matt, People, Matt Reese is always right!

[ This Message was edited by: Atomic Tiki Punk 2013-06-09 20:22 ]
[/quote

Here's a thought... South Pacific, in it's original incarnation as Michener's novel, Tales of the South Pacific, helped create the thirst for tiki that blossomed into a full fledged mid-century movement... when the film version was released, tiki culture was in full swing... the boar's tooth ceremony scene depicts a location that never existed (the island of Bali Hai), just as tiki establishments of the day did... some of them also named Bail Hai. That scene is pretty pastiche-y polynesian, as it blends several different types of tiki art together to create its exotic mood. The scene was art-directed by Lyle Wheeler, who also decorated the legendary Aloha Jhoe's in Palm Springs!

To my mind, this scene, from what's depicted on screen, to the behind the scenes connections, fall right in line with what tiki bars and restaurants were doing at the time! Very tiki to me!

Funny about Bell, Book and Candle... there are some great PNG pieces in Kim Novak's primitive art gallery, and then it later becomes "Flowers of the Sea" (I think that's what it's called) a shop that sells, among other things, fish floats and other nautical jetsam... if both inventories had been mixed, it could have been a tiki shop!
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Hale Tiki
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From: Pittsburgh
Posted: 2013-06-11 07:53 am   Permalink

Quote:

On 2013-06-10 00:14, Atomic Tiki Punk wrote:


Very magnanimous of you sir, But here is where I stand my ground on the matter
I am older then many TC members & I grew up in the era of Tiki which was very much a part
of California pop culture threw the 50s & 60s.




Lucky bastard.


 
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Hale Tiki
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From: Pittsburgh
Posted: 2013-06-11 07:55 am   Permalink

Quote:

On 2013-06-05 20:53, Bay Park Buzzy wrote:
Before John-O names off a bunch of 1940's crap we'll never get around to watching, I cast my vote for:

Bikini A Go Go!



AHAHAHAHAAHAHA. I haven't thought of or seen that movie since it came out. We had Skinemax at the time, and it was called Bikini A Go Go, how could I not watch it? At first, I almost turned it off, as it had that terrible Skinemax vibe, but I stuck it out, and it was hilarious. Totally worth watching.


 
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Hale Tiki
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From: Pittsburgh
Posted: 2013-06-11 07:58 am   Permalink

Bigbro, thanks for I Am Cuba. As a...Photographer/DP/Camera guy, I loved it, and your commentary, and all I've found about it.

 
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bongofury
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Joined: Oct 15, 2002
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From: Ventura County
Posted: 2013-06-11 08:24 am   Permalink

Like it or not.....Rapa Nui

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0110944/

Watch the trailer if you have not seen it

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Hale Tiki
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From: Pittsburgh
Posted: 2013-06-11 09:21 am   Permalink

Quote:

On 2013-06-11 08:24, bongofury wrote:
Like it or not.....Rapa Nui

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0110944/

Watch the trailer if you have not seen it

[ This Message was edited by: bongofury 2013-06-11 08:25 ]



How do I not remember this?


 
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AceExplorer
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From: Deep in the Jacksonville Florida jungle.
Posted: 2013-06-11 10:24 am   Permalink

Quote:

On 2013-06-11 09:21, Hale Tiki wrote:
How do I not remember this?



I'm resisting the urge to put some sort of drinking-related comment here... ha!


 
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