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badmojo
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Joined: Apr 23, 2003
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Posted: 2004-01-20 9:21 pm   Permalink

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On 2004-01-20 11:11, gustw wrote:
Mojo could be your celeb endorsement...




Who, me?


 
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gustw
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Joined: Jan 19, 2004
Posts: 16
Posted: 2004-01-20 10:34 pm   Permalink

Are you Mr. Nixon? Gawd dang... who else is famous here?!



 
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Luckydesigns
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Joined: Sep 15, 2002
Posts: 2168
From: Costa Mesa
Posted: 2004-01-20 11:41 pm   Permalink

I usually like to stay away from topics like this, but who were you seriously targeting for this product? And the tweaky tiki thing? What tiki fan would not be above that? I do have to commend your attempt at a tiki themed product though. The market is out there, you just have to know who they are and what they like. There are plenty of people cashing in from the recent tiki resurgence. I can't blame you for that. I used to be one of the people that would run people off the site because I felt they weren't contributing to the wellfare of the tiki resurgence. That is just a waste of time and energy. If you feel you've been insulted or anything, you definately didn't get it as bad as I've seen people get it in the past. Please stick around on the board if you are truly into tiki.

...and speaking as someone in the fashion industry, no matter what you've heard, mesh trucker hats aren't going anywhere any time soon.
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gustw
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Joined: Jan 19, 2004
Posts: 16
Posted: 2004-01-21 12:33 am   Permalink

umm ... I was joking about the Tweaky Tiki. I just found it funny that there was such a negative reaction, especially from people who probably have a Shag painting with a monkey servin' up tiki drinks in their living room (that, or they just take stuff WAAAY too seriously). It gets thick with pretension in here, but there are a lot of funny and thoughtful comments too. If someone doesn't like my designs fine, but I'll fire back if they make it sound like I've desecrated sacred tiki culture, when they're buying ceramic mugs on Ebay....c'mon.

 
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Kanaka
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Joined: Jun 02, 2003
Posts: 402
From: Atlanta
Posted: 2004-01-21 07:07 am   Permalink

Good grief people! I'm not even going to take the time to search through all the old posts on this topic. Gustw posted a new Tiki related product in the correct Collecting Tiki forum. Isn't that one of the main reasons for the Collecting Tiki forum? Don't we want to know about every Tiki item available in the new and collectors marketplace? Be it vintage, Shag, Finding Nemo, Target tissue holders, Hot Wheels, Barbie, or Bratz, at least we know about it and know how to get it. Whether we like it or not it's all part of the Tiki phenomenon past or present. Do you really think that Tiki hibachi's and the like weren't past fads? In 20 years the Tiki Trash hat may be a collectors item from the current Tiki revival period. As a community we should at least try to be nice to visitors whether they have posted just to sell a Tiki related item (especially in the correct forum) or they have joined to become contributing members. I'm stepping off my soapbox now.

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gustw
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Joined: Jan 19, 2004
Posts: 16
Posted: 2004-01-21 08:23 am   Permalink

Thanks Scotty. And shoot, now that I've negotiated a licensing agreement with J. Dollar for his Fedora Moai t-shirt design, all is good.

On another subject, can someone point me to a source for relatively inexpensive tiki carvings that are guilt-free? I was serious about having qualms about buying stuff from Cost Plus (although some of my hats are made in Taiwan, but it's nearly impossible to find good quality mesh in the U.S., not that ya care)



 
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Tiki_Bong
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Posted: 2004-01-21 09:12 am   Permalink

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On 2004-01-21 07:07, Kanaka wrote:
Good grief people! I'm not even going to take the time to search through all the old posts on this topic. Gustw posted a new Tiki related product in the correct Collecting Tiki forum. Isn't that one of the main reasons for the Collecting Tiki forum...As a community we should at least try to be nice to visitors whether they have posted just to sell a Tiki related item (especially in the correct forum) or they have joined to become contributing members. I'm stepping off my soapbox now.

Scotty



What I think is funny is that 2 "GRAND MEMBERS", whom I do very much like, broke the very rule they swore to when they became "GRAND MEMBERS".

Here I paid my measley $24 and was denied "GRAND MEMBER" status by the powers that be (Like I give a F*$#).

I remember once, this old man I worked with once said, regarding grand titles "you can call me a big white steamboat, but I'm not..."
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DawnTiki
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Joined: Sep 01, 2002
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From: next stop Hulaville!
Posted: 2004-01-21 10:22 am   Permalink

Tiki_Bong you are totally right. It would seem like I have broken some of the rules of the Grand Member code of conduct. WTF wasn't the nicest or most intelligent statement I could have used. I want to thank SugarCaddyDaddy and the others for trying to put a positive spin on this thread. But when I originally wrote about "the hat" in December (which was ignored, not one person was impressed with the hat enough to comment about it at all a month ago). There wasn't any Grand Mystery Member code of conduct rules to break then. And gustw wasn't a TC member yet, so no ones feelings were hurt. I hadn't and still haven't insulted anyone person or called anyone any names. Where the implication that I was acting scholarly or a Tiki Historian (Yea, thats me) came from I don't know. Or why he said that I implied his design was sacrilege and that he had desecrated sacred Tiki culture is all beyond me. I said none of those things. Implied none of those things. All I said was WTF, and I thought his hat was stupi...well you know. Believe me if I wanted to say those things I would have. On the subject of the design of the hat, well, I didn't have to say anything. It speaks for itself. It was a waste of my time and everyone elses to have brought it up in the first place. Lesson learned . So, I want to apologize to all the Tiki Central members for not keeping on the high road.

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freddiefreelance
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Joined: Feb 15, 2003
Posts: 2990
From: San Diego, Ca.
Posted: 2004-01-21 10:34 am   Permalink

Quote:

On 2004-01-21 08:23, gustw wrote:
Thanks Scotty. And shoot, now that I've negotiated a licensing agreement with J. Dollar for his Fedora Moai t-shirt design, all is good.

On another subject, can someone point me to a source for relatively inexpensive tiki carvings that are guilt-free? I was serious about having qualms about buying stuff from Cost Plus (although some of my hats are made in Taiwan, but it's nearly impossible to find good quality mesh in the U.S., not that ya care)



Check with Tiki Tony, I've got 1 of his Tiki Bobbers on my desk @ work & everyone loves it.

I can't help you with the high quality mesh problem, have you tried vintage Tapa cloth?
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emspace
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Joined: Jan 05, 2003
Posts: 875
From: Vancouver
Posted: 2004-01-21 12:17 pm   Permalink

Personally I thought only students in Agriculture faculties wore meshback ball caps. You sure as hell don't see 'em on the streets of Vancouver...

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Tiki_Bong
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Posted: 2004-01-21 12:59 pm   Permalink

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On 2004-01-21 10:22, DawnTiki wrote:
I want to apologize to all the Tiki Central members for not keeping on the high road.




DawnT,

You can come down here to the gutter and visit me anytime!
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hanford_lemoore
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Joined: Mar 23, 2002
Posts: 1869
From: Tiki Central
Posted: 2004-01-21 2:27 pm   Permalink

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On 2004-01-21 09:12, Tiki_Bong wrote:
Here I paid my measley $24 and was denied "GRAND MEMBER" status by the powers that be (Like I give a F*$#).



The only way this is true is if you consider yourself to be your own "powers that be", Bong.

Even if these 2 Grand Members here did not stick to the Code, they at least tried. That's more than can be said for you. The 2 Grand Members you're capping on here didn't bail out when they saw they're actually going to be asked to do something in return and (gasp!) have some decorum in their posts. They agreed that paying 24 bucks didn't give them the right to trash the place.

Remember I didn't deny your membership, in fact I welcome your membership in open arms. But I simply said that all Grand Members agree to the Code, and you're free to paypal me any amount of money anytime if you didn't want to agree. *You* were the one who chose not to. You were the one who decided that that was too much to asked of Bong.

You claim you "don't give the F#CK", but at the same time your signature says "hey I paid 24 bucks". It's obvious to me you want *some* sort of reconition for your donation.

Well anyone can pay 24 bucks ... but being a Grand Member is more than that. The Code of Conduct is an attempt at helping fix what's wrong with Tiki Central these days; things that I've heard you complain about. If you don't want to agree to it, that's fine. But that was your choice, you weren't denied it.

I'm starting to wonder if it's worth putting up with your posts, man.

~Hanford


 
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gustw
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Joined: Jan 19, 2004
Posts: 16
Posted: 2004-01-21 2:44 pm   Permalink

Maybe I was mixin' references/people when I went off on pretension, but let's face it Dawn, "WTF" definitely implied contempt for the product, and your overall vibe suggested that you thought it was inappropriate that I posted it. BUT, I put it in the right category, and I'm not sure why being an active member is any factor. I certainly didn't try to strong-arm anyone into buying my hats, or contact anyone directly. If someone else can advertise a plastic mug or tiki lamp, I can surely list Tiki Trash hats. Obviously, you've made it clear that you don't like the design, but initially it came across that you thought I was out of line for posting, and that's what I reacted to. It's a little ironic that there is sorta a suggestion that Tiki Trash is somehow "lesser" or inappropriate, and the response is TRASH talk. But, hey, I'm cool with that game, otherwise, I wouldn't have posted 12+ responses. I'll take all comers. Many of you are programmed to hate mesh, just as the kids are programmed to love it. Mesh isn't cool anymore, and a good chunk of you wouldn't wear it mainly out of a fear of appearing like a hipster (okay, the hats are considered ugly, but that's part of their charm...I have a whole other rant on the defense of the trucker hat). I like the hats, and I won't stuff 'em away in the closet, no matter how many Ashton Kutcher wears.
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Unga Bunga
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Joined: Jun 06, 2003
Posts: 5808
From: CaliTikifornia
Posted: 2004-01-21 3:00 pm   Permalink

Lock this post!

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martiki
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Posted: 2004-01-21 4:09 pm   Permalink

topic locked.

 
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