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EnchantedTikiGoth
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Joined: Dec 31, 2003
Posts: 30
From: Calgary, Alberta, Canada
Posted: 2004-04-03 10:17 am   Permalink

Hi again all,

This is probably a weird topic, but it's been on my mind again, doubtless on account of my preparations to don the EnchantedTikiGoth persona at the club tonight, complete with purple lei and eyeliner maori designs. I thought I might have better luck with it here than on other forums.

I was just wondering what films you guys might know about where Tiki-type stuff and Steampunk/Victorian Sci-Fi/Jules Verne-type stuff cross swords. I only know of three, all of which are Disney: 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea (the cannibal incident), Swiss Family Robinson (bamboo-tech), and In Search of the Castaways (in which they're cast away on New Zealand).

Of course, combining Tiki and Steampunk is always a bit of a stretch, since they recall two entirely separate eras, but there was an Atomic Age Sci-Fi resurgence in Victorian adaptations... But I digress.

Anyways, I exhausted the Steampunk side regarding this question, so I figured that if anyone is going to know, it's gotta' be the Tiki side.

Thanks!
Cory


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kctiki
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Joined: Apr 22, 2003
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From: Kansas City
Posted: 2004-04-03 2:42 pm   Permalink

I can't quite follow where you want to go with this, but it sounds intriguing.

If you can't find what you're looking for just make it up as you go. Let your fancy flow!

If it's fun & makes people happy you'll have them eating the B.S. right out of your hand. Or maybe they'll think you're nuts, but at least you'll have fun creating your own little fiction.


 
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EnchantedTikiGoth
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From: Calgary, Alberta, Canada
Posted: 2004-04-03 4:36 pm   Permalink

I dunno'... I'm just looking for more movies with neat steam-powered contraptions and Tiki grooviness

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CowboyMike
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Posted: 2004-04-03 5:20 pm   Permalink



 
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kctiki
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From: Kansas City
Posted: 2004-04-04 06:07 am   Permalink

There's lots of groovy steam powered contraptions in "Willy Wonka's Exotic Cocktail Test Kitchen". Available only in Make-Believe-Vision at this time.

 
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atomictonytiki
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Joined: May 14, 2002
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From: Bangkok
Posted: 2004-04-04 07:44 am   Permalink

Quote:

On 2004-04-03 10:17, EnchantedTikiGoth wrote:


the EnchantedTikiGoth persona at the club tonight, complete with purple lei and eyeliner maori designs.

[ This Message was edited by: EnchantedTikiGoth on 2004-04-03 10:18 ]



I once knew of a "Sunshine Goth", who was a goth that wore Hawaiian shirts on top of his goth clothes and had big blonde crimpted hair .
I love the idea of steampunk-tiki, as much as i love vintage tiki i find devising alt-tiki very interesting.


 
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EnchantedTikiGoth
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From: Calgary, Alberta, Canada
Posted: 2004-04-04 4:29 pm   Permalink

Oh dear... Uh... I don't think that the Professor and co. are exactly of the right time period... *whew*

That "Sunshine Goth" thing sounds amusing... My own TikiGoth look went off pretty well, and the bartenders even congratulated me for bringing my own paper umbrella

My own fixation on finding some Tiki Steampunk comes from my liking both Tiki and Steampunk, and my neurotic need to have everything in my life make coherent sense and have tangible connections (I may very well be guilty of G.K. Chesterton's charge: "The aesthete aims at harmony rather than beauty.").

In a roundabout way I did manage to get into Tiki via Goth. Basically, Goth leads to old horror movies which leads to mid-century monster chic which leads to mid-century pop culture which leads to Tiki. Now I'm looking to see if I can find some connection - even a thin, tenuous one - between that and Steampunk.

The only place I'm really expecting to find anything, though, is in mid-century adaptations of Victorian Sci-Fi, which were a part of the Atomic Age Sci-Fi movie explosion. So far, the only person who seems to have tapped into this possibility is Walt Disney, frightening as that may be.

What other sort of Alt-Tiki might there be?

Cory


 
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Kono
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From: Orlando
Posted: 2004-04-04 7:04 pm   Permalink

How about Dr Dolittle? Or would that be more fantasy than sci-fi?

I don't have a real strong handle on the steampunk concept. Would "The Wild Wild West" be steampunk? How about the Doc Savage books? Edgar Rice Burroughs' John Carter/Lost World/Tarzan pulps? Man I loved that stuff when I was a kid.

What does the steampunk crowd do/collect? Are there art, music, clothing style genres that especially appeal to the steampunk community? Just curious.


 
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Basement Kahuna
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Posted: 2004-04-04 7:13 pm   Permalink

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EnchantedTikiGoth
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From: Calgary, Alberta, Canada
Posted: 2004-04-04 7:58 pm   Permalink

Quote:

On 2004-04-04 19:04, Kono wrote:
How about Dr Dolittle? Or would that be more fantasy than sci-fi?



I'm not familiar enough with it, but from what I do know, I'm thinking children's fairy tale.

Quote:
I don't have a real strong handle on the steampunk concept. Would "The Wild Wild West" be steampunk?



Yep... Not a lot of Steampunk fans cared for the movie (I think it's alright if you turn your brain off), but the technology is definitely Steampunk.

Quote:
How about the Doc Savage books? Edgar Rice Burroughs' John Carter/Lost World/Tarzan pulps? Man I loved that stuff when I was a kid.



Pulp is a genre unto itself. Scientific Romances basically ran through the Victorian and Edwardian eras. Pulp picks up the war and interwar years, to be followed by straight-up Sci-Fi as we known it today. Steampunk is, technically, modern imitation or adaptation of Scientific Romances.

Anyways, Doc Savage is Pulp, and Burroughs' work sort of straddles the line between Scientific Romance and Pulp. And, incidentally, The Lost World (my favorite novel!) was by Sir Arthur Conan Doyle. You might be thinking of Burroughs' Land that Time Forgot trilogy.

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What does the steampunk crowd do/collect? Are there art, music, clothing style genres that especially appeal to the steampunk community? Just curious.



I should probably just refer you to my Steampunk website for further details:
http://welcome.to/steampunk

Cory


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atomictonytiki
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Joined: May 14, 2002
Posts: 1278
From: Bangkok
Posted: 2004-04-05 11:16 am   Permalink

Nice site, but no mention of Bryan Talbot's "Luther Arkwright" or "Heart of the Empire" comics, or Talbots great art work on Pat Mills "Nemesis the Warlock" particularly when they go to the "Gothick Empire"

http://www.dreamnation.fsnet.co.uk/battle2.html#gand

And to further take this off topic, what did you think of the "League of Extraordinary gentlemen" movie?



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Johnny Dollar
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Joined: Oct 01, 2003
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From: Baltimore, Maryland, PNG
Posted: 2004-04-05 11:41 am   Permalink

scooby doo 1 - spooky island?!?

rowan atkinson + witch doctors=...


 
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freddiefreelance
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Joined: Feb 15, 2003
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From: San Diego, Ca.
Posted: 2004-04-05 11:57 am   Permalink

ETG, The only thing I can think of is Chtulonic Horror with it's "Deep Ones" & occasionally Georgian/Victorian settings, but that's from the Horror/Fantasy side. If you're looking for source material you can try naval histories from that time period focused on the South Pacific. Or Michael Moorcock's Oswald Bastable books: "The Warlord of the Air," "The Land Leviathan," & "The Steel Tsar." There wasn't much Tiki in them, more East India/China than South Pacific.
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atomictonytiki
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Joined: May 14, 2002
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From: Bangkok
Posted: 2004-04-05 3:47 pm   Permalink

Cthulhu tiki..

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3186362577&category=230




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freddiefreelance
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Joined: Feb 15, 2003
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From: San Diego, Ca.
Posted: 2004-04-06 08:41 am   Permalink

Quote:
On 2004-04-05 15:47, atomictonytiki wrote:
Cthulhu tiki..
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3186362577&category=230

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I prefer
Cthulhu Clause.
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