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RevBambooBen
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Posted: 2004-04-03 08:41 am   Permalink

This has got to be the most interesting post on TC in a while. It's amazing how much stuff they hide from us.

 
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Atomic Cocktail
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From: Land O' The Next Big One-L.A.
Posted: 2004-04-03 11:36 am   Permalink

ROAD TRIP!



 
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fatuhiva
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Posted: 2004-04-03 9:05 pm   Permalink

hahaha more like BOAT trip

 
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purple jade
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Posted: 2004-04-03 10:06 pm   Permalink

Somewhat related...
March 1st, 2004 was the 50th anniversary of the Bravo Hydrogen Bomb testing on Bikini Atoll.


 
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RevBambooBen
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Posted: 2004-04-03 10:22 pm   Permalink

Wo! I thought you/PJ was gone! Welcome back!

 
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Atomic Cocktail
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From: Land O' The Next Big One-L.A.
Posted: 2004-04-04 2:52 pm   Permalink

Quote:

On 2004-04-03 22:06, purple jade wrote:
Somewhat related...
March 1st, 2004 was the 50th anniversary of the Bravo Hydrogen Bomb testing on Bikini Atoll.



Barely related: a diving friend of mine kept pushing me to take the job of dive shop manager on Bikini atoll (decided not to take it). Though I love the atom I worship it from afar.

Road/boat trip:

1. Trinity site
2. Bikini Atoll
3. Johnson Island

How many Roentgens do you think one could rack up on such a trip?

"May the blessing of the Bomb and the fellowship of the Holy Fallout descend upon us all."
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tikibars
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From: Aku Hall, Chicago
Posted: 2004-04-04 5:33 pm   Permalink

See TRT page 107.

This one was listed on the good ol' TBRP as far back as 1997!

Who knew this much more data would pop up...

Thanks for the stories and links fellas!

Guess it's time to move it to the 'closed section'...?


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captnkirk
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From: Hockessin, Delaware
Posted: 2004-04-04 8:19 pm   Permalink

My local newspaper is embroiled in a debate over whether or not a local chemical company should process the wastewater from the army's disposal of nerve agent.

They then listed the top 5 repositorys of nerve agent in the USA, and there it was right there in the top 5, Johnson Island. That's going to cut into the tourism there from my state.

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Chongolio
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From: The Coast of Kauai
Posted: 2004-04-07 09:34 am   Permalink

Wow, I am with Bamboo Ben, this topic is amazing.

Bong once again you prove to be worthy of the title "Tiki man on the streets" I would say more on the Howard Stern side of the coin than the Leno side though. I think if you and Cherry combine powers you would leave no tiki untipped.

Bigbro, I like your vision. I think your idea combined with the "tiki steampunk" concept could be a really interesting mix, maybe a genre unto itself. See this thread:

http://www.tikiroom.com/tikicentral/bb/viewtopic.php?topic=8412&forum=1&25

Heck, through in some zombie monkey slaves and an exotic hallucinogenic ritual and bablam, were talkin blockbuster baby.

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Tiki_Bong
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Posted: 2004-04-07 09:53 am   Permalink

I know it's probably better to raze the military complex on Johnston Island and return it to a natural habitat, but I have a weird obsession (like that's new) with the military-industrial structures.

When I lived on the base at China Lake Navel Weapons Center, I used to love going into these massive military structures surrounded by the surreal desert landscape. It was an odd juxtaposition of man-made sturctures and nature (especially on L25!).

I would imagine, like Tiki Mick said, it's the same on Johnston Island. Unfortunately for me anyways, China Lake Navel Weapons Center is also slated to be decommissioned in the near future.
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tiki mick
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From: Socal
Posted: 2004-04-07 10:30 am   Permalink

When we were first approaching JI, I was already intrigued....you could be right on the island and miss it...

I wondered if ancient navigators from polynesia had ever set foot there, and what did they do there? It would be so hard to find this tiny speck of dry land!

When we got off the boat, I noticed a lot of strange things right off the bat....lot's of bumkers..all semi-underground...(they have some of these on ford island, pearl harbor too)
I immediatley guessed they were storing chemicals there, but it was also obvious when they told us to keep our gasmasks clipped to our web belt that something was going on...

The people were cool, but strange..it was like the oliver stone movie "u-turn"..or maybe even a twighlight zone episode...they were staring at us..and I think it is because day after day they are looking at the same faces...they were kind of wierd towards us!

Everywhere you saw military police..lot's and lots of them...

In the water near the reef, I saw what looked like large black trashbags floating in the water...they were huge manta rays...

There was a place called "shark shoot" were they dumped trash....the sharks were indeed thick as thieves....not somewhere I would like to fall in! (the website shows a picture of these same sharks..all hammerheads)
Our atoll tour guide told us of a giant eel that lived in a sewage tube...we did not believe him, but soon I saw what looked like a horse's head coming out of the tube...man, that sucker was HUGE!!

On a related subject, we use to sail alot to the small island of Kahoolawe..(did I spell that right?) at the time it was a naval bombing range..and we supplied the marines and SeaBees that lived there...we would anchor in the most pristine lagoon I have ever seen..the reef 90 feet below looked like it was right below the ship...we would wait for the dolphins, then go swimming and hope the dolphins would protect us!

Later, I learned that is had been returned back to the hawaiians as a sacred area..no haoles allowed!

I wonder if the same thing applies to JI..will the hawaiians (or anyone else) ever use JI for religious ceremonies?

All in all, I used to tell people about JI, and they never believed me! But the place was soo cool, beautiful and tranquil..the water so blue and green it almost hurt your eyes..but very hot weather! We were allowed to wear our jungle issue uniforms (australian bush hat...and lightweight ventilated boots and cloth)as did all the servicemen on the island..

Reading about it now, I find it kind of creepy that they stored nerve gas (which I suspected) and agent orange (great punk band, by the way)there...

Right now, I think it would be too cool to stand on the now deserted atoll, smoke a big fatty, and be the ONLY person within 800 miles! Talk about blissful solitude!!!

All you would have would be the sound of waves, seagulls and a few palm trees to look at...and then the long marches of endless waves with flying fish skimming the surface!!

The place is magical...not like anywhere else!!


 
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christiki295
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Posted: 2004-04-12 12:24 am   Permalink

Quote:

On 2004-04-07 10:30, tiki mick wrote:
We use to sail alot to the small island of Kahoolawe..at the time it was a naval bombing range..and we supplied the marines and SeaBees that lived there...we would anchor in the most pristine lagoon I have ever seen..the reef 90 feet below looked like it was right below the ship...we would wait for the dolphins, then go swimming and hope the dolphins would protect us!

Later, I learned that is had been returned back to the hawaiians as a sacred area..no haoles allowed!




The LATimes states that this week the last machinery & personnel will leave Kahoolawe and, yes, it will be returned to the State of Hawaii for cultural purposes.


 
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Chongolio
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Posted: 2005-07-16 11:58 pm   Permalink

Well I am not sure if i should of clicked the current and cool button or bump this thread. I always thought this was worthy and interesting.

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Humuhumu
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Posted: 2005-07-17 12:08 am   Permalink

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On 2005-07-16 23:58, Chongolio wrote:
Well I am not sure if i should of clicked the current and cool button or bump this thread. I always thought this was worthy and interesting.

Chongolio




Feel free to do both!

Go crazy with that Cool & Current button, that's what it's there for.

Bumping of topics is generally not the thing to do unless you're actually saying something new, but my own 2 coconuts worth is that maybe that only applies if the last post was made in the past month or two. Or if the thread was genuinely sucky and it was really better off dead, but that doesn't apply here.

Thanks for bringing this up again!

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