||TIKI OASIS IV - How was the Event? How was the Resort? How was The REEF?
Grand Member (first year)
Joined: Sep 01, 2002
From: next stop Hulaville!
|Posted: 2004-05-12 4:37 pm  Permalink|
Taken from Tiki News Webpage.
Seksu Roba (LA)
Inter-galactic Space Love Electronic Exotica music featuring virtuoso Theremin player Sukho Lee, and Lun*na Menoh - vocalist, costume designer, and performance artist. Theremin solos, Nunchuck disco dancing, future sex video projections, and 7 foot tall robot are all parts of the Seksu Roba experience.
There it was, in black and white and I missed it! I did dig the nunchuck disco dancing though! My concern was stricktly with the video I keep mentioning, with which I am done.
Joined: Mar 25, 2002
From: West Los Angeles
|Posted: 2004-05-12 4:39 pm  Permalink|
I had a black dress of gauze like fabric. There were 3 or 4 big off-white blotches with purple tikis on them on each side. I left it on a pool chair to hold my place and it got stolen. Unbelieveable.
Also, if someone remembers leaving a men's shirt with short sleeves and a collar in Room 135 on Saturday night, we brought it to the front desk of the Caliente for safekeeping.
Parking passes and a visit from an ice truck would be good!
Pop, I agree with your seedy-element observations. On Friday night in 135, I felt really uncomfortable with the vibe. I felt like they were just using the place because it was the party room (maaaaaan)and the host's only purpose was to feed them drinks or something. I sensed at times what I felt was an "alien" element, and it wasn't just in the Monster's Lair.
The only time I have encountered burlesque is at Tiki Oasis and Fisherman, both associated with the San Francisco scene; I don't think that most TCers associate tiki with burlesque.
I left when the Japanese group was playing. This did appear to be an adventurous choice! It bums me out that the Friki Tikis didn't play at the Oasis and this band did, though.
THE FRIKI TIKIS SHOULD PLAY AT TIKI OASIS V.
This Oasis was a lot of fun this year. Thanks to The Von Stroheims, CASEY, Hukilau Brown and Dave and Rebecca. It was a memorable time!
Joined: Jun 11, 2003
From: LB to LA, CA
|Posted: 2004-05-12 5:02 pm  Permalink|
I guess I missed all the fun....
I gotta get a new job.
...or work Monday through Thursdays.
Joined: Mar 25, 2002
From: Corona, Ca
|Posted: 2004-05-12 5:17 pm  Permalink|
On 2004-05-12 15:15, Conga Mike wrote:
Come on guys !! I'm not trying to be insenstitive to those parents with kids, but we cannot plan our fun/lives etc according to what's appropriate for children!
My argument had nothing to do with the PG-fication of the event. On the contrary -- yes, I watched the burlesque show with my son on my lap and I have no problem with that. Believe it or not at his young age, he didn't see anything there that he hasn't seen before.
What's not being understood is simply this:
BURLESQUE IS NOT TIKI.
I don't have anything against Burlesque but it is what it is and yes there are people who have an interest in both but it has its own scene.
This is a TIKI event sponsored by the TIKI News called TIKI Oasis.
In my opinion, the money spent on 6 minutes worth of burlesque would have been better spent on 1 hour of Tahitian Drummers, Polynesian Dancers, Hula Girls or the FRIKI TIKIS in keeping with the TIKI theme.
He who dies with the most broken mugs WINS!
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Joined: Jul 01, 2003
From: San Francisco
|Posted: 2004-05-12 5:29 pm  Permalink|
On 2004-05-12 12:37, Conga Mike wrote:
My one single criticism : There was an "older" gentelman at the Reef (at around 4pm Friday) who was pouring the worst tasting Mai Tais I've had. This is a very discerning Mai Tai crowd and you cannot pass off "rum with a dash of who knows what"
I too got a mai tai that suuuucked ! Who was that guy anyhow? I switched to beer right after and would probably have not ordered another mixed drink from the reef, but a friend of mine bought me a far better mai tai later (obviously mixed by someone else) so I gave them another chance
Joined: Jul 31, 2003
From: Long Beach, CA
|Posted: 2004-05-12 5:32 pm  Permalink|
On 2004-05-12 13:36, fishhead wrote:
I did'nt partake in any of the parties[little shy came by myself]but pretty comfy by the time I was packing my art up on Sunday.Oh well next year..
Hey Fishhead, I did not get a chance to stop by and say hi. I dig your art. My booth was in the shuffle board area. Sorry we missed you. swamp fire lounge
Joined: May 12, 2003
|Posted: 2004-05-12 5:32 pm  Permalink|
I think the parents in the audience that I heard complaining about the senso robot sex, were justified, and most of them said, 'the burlesque was on the schedule, the fetish porn wasn't' the other thing, burlesque is REALLY different than fetish porn. Otto and Baby Doe were alerted (by me) of this negative feedback, I'm sure they'll address it. TO is a family event, but it's up to parents to watch their kids and plan ahead. Most of us are adults, and there is drinking, some misbehavior is expected The ice, Humu2 is right, the machines can only make ice so fast. The parking, passes would be great. Entertainment, well it's Otto's event, he can book who he thinks will give a cool show, who he can get at the price he can pay. and who is available. It's A LOT of work, and he wants to make the event a great experience for everyone, but it isn't always easy to get the performers you want. Who knows? I'm sure when he comes up for air he'll peruse this post, all these suggestions are valid!
I wonder if was the bachelor party boys who were harshing my mellow in dr. z's room saturday night? I went to 135 and was greeted with tiki love and a yummy mai tai!
all in all, I had a great time
"You're the mayor of shark city, people think you want the beaches open."
Joined: Mar 04, 2003
From: Vista, CA
|Posted: 2004-05-12 5:35 pm  Permalink|
I am with you Bong on child censorship. I had no problem with the burly Q dancers from a parental point of view but struggled to see the relevance to a tiki based event.
I know that this is not new to the Oasis and it was not a surprise but as I sat and watched the Burlesque and Japanese techno music I questioned the applicability to this type of event. The last thing we need is to make this event more "hip" and attract simple party people who have no interest in the ohana style gathering that we have become used to.
blah blah blah
Joined: May 12, 2004
From: 47`N 122`W / Edmonds, WA.
|Posted: 2004-05-12 5:47 pm  Permalink|
Hello from the Northwest.
In reply to "Polynesian Pop". I do agree, on the most part. But at the sametime, I have nothing to base off of, since this was my first Tiki Oasis Fest.
I agree on the wrist bands, and big time on the parking, I purchased my ticket when this first was published on the net. And it was a pain in the butt parking a couple blocks away, and have to carry things back to our room. I was asked twice (Friday & Saturday) if I could move my rental, so things could be set up.
And like Polynesian Pop, I'm not bad mouthing the festival.
And since I'm in radio here in Seattle, I've worked my share of festivals, parties, concerts, etc. and they all have had some kind of problem. So I'm adding my 2 cents, and hope this helps for next year.
All the best.
Paradise NW Studio
Joined: Mar 25, 2002
|Posted: 2004-05-12 5:55 pm  Permalink|
[i]On 2004-05-12 17:17, PolynesianPop wrote
In my opinion, the money spent on 6 minutes worth of burlesque would have been better spent on 1 hour of Tahitian Drummers, Polynesian Dancers, Hula Girls or the FRIKI TIKIS
Or 5 days worth of the Smokin' Menehunes (hey, we're cheap).
"I'm ashamed to be here, but not too ashamed to leave..."
Grand Member (8 years)
Joined: Apr 02, 2002
From: SF bay area, CA
|Posted: 2004-05-12 6:53 pm  Permalink|
Saturday there was no music until what, 3:00? And no speakers by the pool. Worst of all, from the pool one heard two things at once--The truly Smokin' Menehuhes from inside, and the DJ playing some things that were probably on Keri "Bone Girl" French's CD.
Can't tell if I'm included in those targeted by this comment, since I deejayed on Sat from 1-3:30. The music actually started at noon, but a couple people did mention that they couldn't hear it much by the pool. We probably couldn't turn the mains up much more since they overheated at least once anyway at the volume they were at. Even with the DJ awning (thanks!!!) the equipment was still getting pretty hot - you could fry an egg on the main console. I think it was pretty audible in the vendor area though, even loud by the stage. Maybe more speakers would've helped distribute the sound to the pool, but I don't know how complicated that would've been, and I can't exactly volunteer what amounts to work and cost for someone else.
I did hear the first couple songs by the guy who started at 3:30, and it sounded like exotica to me. Can't speak for the rest of his music, since we went to see the Menehunes. But sorry to hear you were unhappy with the audio experience, FattMatt.
Regarding the other sundry forms of entertainment, I'm glad that not everything was my bag, because I would've never gotten to eat. But personally I think it's a little tough to use "is it tiki?" as a yardstick for what should be on the bill. I'm sure glad Project Pimento played again this year, but I can't say if they're tiki or not. Don't even know if King Kuk would say he's "tiki", but as a charter member of the King Kuk fan club, I'd love to see him get more time as a performer in addition to MC.
Anyway, we had fun!
Joined: Aug 01, 2003
|Posted: 2004-05-12 7:02 pm  Permalink|
I've already posted an apology in another forum page here, but ironically, the only aspect of the whole weekend that left me feeling disappointed was my own - the dive-in movie. I've heard one actual reference to it, and that was in a private email, so apparently the overall reaction was apathy!
In any case, the decision to use video came because I don't have a print of "From Hell It Came" - the only "tiki" monster movie in history, I believe, and even then, that's my own interpretation of it - in 16mm. I much prefer film over video
as a rule (I book and host films at a "real" movie theater, the Parkway, here in Oakland), and only resort to other formats when there's no choice, depending on the context (I showed a crappy DVD of "She Gods of Shark Reef" at a tiki show here last year, but at least it was on the big screen, and wasn't the only entertainment of the evening, we also had the Devil-ettes, short films from Otto, etc.) Finding South Sea island flicks can be a tall order, kids.
I love the whole concept of the dive-in and was honored to host it this year - Monica and I had a lot of fun giving out prizes on stage, and I'm grateful to Mig (Gorilla X) for his cameo) - but the murkiness of the video on a small waving sheet couldn't even hold my attention, much less anyone else's. Too bad, because indoors these kinda flicks are a lot of fun to watch as a crowd, especially a drunken one.
Next year, if Otto asks me to bring Thrillville back to the Oasis, I'll have to arrange something in 16mm, (I have a guy I use for local road shows, but's not into tiki and has no tiki stuff on 16, really), get a bigger screen and move it to a more strategic location.
In fairness, under the circumstances, it was the best we could do. But now we know better, so next time, the presentation will be better.Can't promise the movie will be, though....
As for everything else, I personally loved the retro-futuristic theme (which fit my B movie schtick perfectly, and vise versa), and of course I can't get too much booty-shakin'. But then I'm not a Polynesian Pop purist, I like combining my retro interests (tiki noir, sci fi tiki, robot tikis, burlesque exotica, it's all works for me, like a mixed cocktail). As for the sophistication of the content and its suitability for families, maybe next year there should be a "cut off" time for more adult themed aspects of the program so parents will know in advance what's coming. No reason to cut out the sexy stuff, though, at least from my perspective. For a lot of us, tiki is a sensual experience, especially after your fourth Mai Tai.
I found parking easily enough, too, and I wasn't even staying at the Tropics. But that' s just me. Other than my own technically challenged gig, I have no complaints with any of the merchants or performers. I met a lot of very friendly, like-minded folks from all over, and for me, that's what it all comes down to. Whether I host the dive-in again or not, I plan to return next year. Kudos, Otto.
Joined: May 11, 2003
From: glendale, ca
|Posted: 2004-05-12 7:25 pm  Permalink|
This was my first Tiki Oasis and I couldn't hae enjoyed it more. I showed up Saturday to work the bar gate. Otto, Mateo, and crew run a class operation. Not only did I get a ticket for volunteering, but a tiki mug and free drink as a thank you. I didn't tell 'em that I should be thanking them. While at the gate I got to meet a slew of really nice, friendly T.C.ers. and put faces to the monikers.
I was a little surprised that there wasn't tiki music around the pool. Running some speakers out there would be a good idea. Even an underwater set. That's pretty cool if you've ever heard them. With all the diverse talent on this board perhaps someone can come up with a plan. Certainly the Menehunes should have been piped out there.
I thought the burlesque dancers were a nice surprise (not knowing what to expect).
Is there such a thing as polynesian burlesque? Hell, throw a grass skirt on her and I'm sold.
I loved the dive in movie idea. Didn't even mind the small screen (I just swam to the deep end), but as above, perhaps someone can come up with a plan for a bigger screen next year.
I must have missed the undesirable types. Everyone was pretty cool. I'll be checking in for the full weekend next year!
Joined: Jun 24, 2002
|Posted: 2004-05-12 7:36 pm  Permalink|
Another Fisherman/Crazy Al movie:
(1.8 meg Quicktime movie)
And some more random pics:
Bamboo Ben puts his advertising assets to good use
Suicide Sam displays Al's garish garnish
Scrimshaw & friend (who is she?)
Vintage Girl is most appealing...with Johnnie Velour, Utopian Dream, Tiki Bird, Trader Pup
Fisherman brings good vibes to APE
Shely (right) & revellers
Martiki 3-fists it
TV interviewer looks terribly out of place
Utopian Dream got the Johnny Velour bowl I dreamed of getting
Iuka Grog's Ukelele Fantasy Camp in the fabulous new Reef Bar
Takin' in the scene
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Joined: Jun 06, 2003
|Posted: 2004-05-12 8:01 pm  Permalink|
On 2004-05-12 16:19, lucas vigor wrote:
Someone pissed in my beer..was it you, Bong?
Oh great! It’s another, “I wanna piss Bong off, but I don’t want him to know who I am” New Membership ID.