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Bamboo Experts Advice Please!! Moso!
pariartspaul
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Joined: Dec 20, 2003
Posts: 156
From: Martiniland, California
Posted: 2004-08-02 08:23 am   Permalink

Okay, here's the story morning glory: About a year and a half ago when we moved into our new house here in Sacramento, the backyard was barren and I wanted to create a tropical Adventureland type jungle wonderland, so to get the landscape going I got a couple of 5 gallon giant Moso bamboo plants as well as a bunch of Alphonse Karr bamboo. So it's all doing very well. I put a dozen 1 gallon Alphonse Karr's along the back fence (about a 60 foot length) and that's doing beautifully, with lots of new tall shoots right now. I put a couple of 5 gallon Alphonse Karr in a couple of select spots and they are doing incredibly, gorgeous with lots of huge shoots coming up now. Well, the Alphonse Karr is the clumping variety for sure, so I'm not worried about it spreading, I can keep it under control. But I just found out that the Moso is the running variety! I'd swear they told me it was a clumping variety when I bought it at the nursery!! I have one on one side of the yard where there's nothing beyond the fence but 15 feet of easment (dirt) all the way out to the street so it's fine to take over, but on the other side, it's maybe 10 feet from neighbors backyards on either side (it's in the corner) and that's the one I'm getting worried about. We do have hard clay soil here, and when you don't water, it's like rock hard, so I never water the back side of the Moso, but on the front side right now there is these great huge alien shoots coming up, maybe 4" in diameter and they're growing fast! No problem there, and so far nothing is coming up on the backside. But boy if you saw them it is kind of scary to think something of that size might wander! I'm thinking of digging a trench on the back side and filling it with concrete for security, I'd hate for them to spread out the backside!
Any advice from anyone who's grown Moso? I definitely want to keep it, it's incredible looking.


 
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Bamboo Dude
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Joined: Jul 05, 2004
Posts: 164
From: Orange Countiki, CA
Posted: 2004-08-02 08:58 am   Permalink

First of all, I am so envious right now...I wish I had the room to plant a few stands of Guadua or Alfonse Karr...my plan is to move to out in the 'sticks'('scuse the pun) after kids are grown, and start a bamboo nursery.

Carol Stanger suggests, in her book 'The Art and Craft of Bamboo', using poured concrete, sheets of aluminum, or heavy molded plastic to containg running bamboo. Containment should extend 24-30 inches below the ground, and 2 inches above...angled outward. Sheeting should overlap and be joined together tightly with screws...calking between the sheets would also be a good idea. Roadways and waterways are natural barriers.

Here are a few links...
http://www.americanbamboo.org/
http://www.bamboooftheamericas.org/
http://www.abssocal.org/

Also, you should pm TC member Bamboo Bob, he is the vice president of the Southern California Chapter of the American Bamboo Society. He's the resident guru...I've only just started learning recently.

Gook luck to ya!


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pariartspaul
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Joined: Dec 20, 2003
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From: Martiniland, California
Posted: 2004-08-02 09:49 am   Permalink

Thanks for the advice and thanks to BambooBen for sending me an email with more advice. I think for now I'm going to dig a 3' trench around the back perimeter (oh my acheing back!). They say that the bamboo roots won't go any deeper than that. So I'll see if any roots get to the side of the trench by next season. Then I'll put a plastic barrier backfilled with concrete in the trench. Brother! Glad I'm doing it now before the roots got out of the area. But it is worth it, the bamboo is so incredible, I love it. I'll post some picture soon so you can see what I'm talking about.

 
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Bamboo Dude
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From: Orange Countiki, CA
Posted: 2004-08-02 10:25 am   Permalink

Dude, where is 'Martinland'???

"AAAAHHHH," says I, as I readjust the specs,"I see, Martin-i-land...not 'Martinland'."

Never mind! lol

[ This Message was edited by: Bamboo Dude on 2004-08-02 10:28 ]


 
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pariartspaul
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From: Martiniland, California
Posted: 2004-08-02 12:06 pm   Permalink

Martinland, that's funny. Yes our home's official name is MARINILAND. Richard mixes some mean martinis. Last year the big vogue was the green apple martini with a thin apple slice floating on top. This year he's been making these tropical blue martinis with 'Island Blue Pucker Schnapps' and they're good. But my favorite is a good old dirty martini with lots of olive juice, boy a few of those and you'll be set. I'm not too fond of the sweet drinks, I prefer something meatier. And there you have it!

 
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MrkCat
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Joined: Jan 23, 2003
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From: Sunny Southern California
Posted: 2004-08-03 12:23 am   Permalink

I'm envious I would like to get some Moso myself, But where to put it. As I understand it the rhizomes stay within 12" of the surface and don't dive down. I've heard a 24" deep barrier will keep it contained. I have Oldhami, golden, golden goddess, and black bamboo right now. And plenty of room for runners, but they don't seem to stray where the ground is not watered.

 
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