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Aside from Witco, who made Witco-like tiki stuff?
tikicoma
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From: wakinekona
Posted: 2011-05-15 12:59 am   Permalink

I found this photo of Gale Haner carvings on the Tacoma library site, so I thought I'd add it to this post, It's only been 6 years since the last post.


aloha, Tikicoma


 
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bigbrotiki
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Posted: 2011-05-16 09:51 am   Permalink

A-mazing find, thank you! Man, this must have so "burned" the Wilrongo Trio! What a direct, undisguised rip off!

 
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Posted: 2011-05-16 2:22 pm   Permalink

obvious rip offs indeed., but they do seem to have a little more attention to detail and a little bit more refined as carvings. The girl is much cleaner than most witco's Ive seen!!
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bigbrotiki
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Posted: 2011-05-16 5:00 pm   Permalink

Quote:

On 2011-05-16 14:22, kirby wrote:
The girl is much cleaner than most witco's Ive seen!!



I wasn't aware that Witco used dirty girls a models!



Aaaahaaa, I crack myself up! - No, but seriously, it is true, the few Gale Haner carvings I have seen in person are quite solid and well carved. I believe he never got ramped up to the level of assembly line production that Witco did, so more care could be taken with each piece.


 
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tikicoma
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From: wakinekona
Posted: 2011-05-17 12:00 am   Permalink

aloha, I just got done talking to Gale's oldest son (he's 76) and he told me that he remembers that his dad was carving and painting when he (the son) was 5 years old (1940). He also told me that his never worked for anyone else. What spurred me on was this,

I saw this mask last weekend on a house across from a burger joint I started going to so I knocked on the door to ask about it. The gal who answered turned out to have been a former manager of the Tiki apartments (opened in '64). She sold it to me and said they found 2 masks under the apts and these "placks" (that they put back up}

under the apts next door, also owned by the same people. Jerry who owns Jungle Fever Exotics nursery told me that his parents also managed the Tiki's early in the '80's (when I was living at the Polynesia Village apts) and that similar masks were on all the apt doors. I asked Gale's son and he said his dad did these and also their tiki's (maybe unsure about the tikis there and also (maybe) at the Hawaiian Village apts in Lakewood).

and this tiki that has the same face carved on both sides! (it has a very thick trunk and is bigger than it looks in the pic)

The bar stool that the gal is sitting on in the photo I first added to this thread is still in the possession of the son. I'll be talking to him this weekend and asked to see any carvings/photos he and his family can gather (he did lots of carvings that weren't tiki)
So, I picked up this cedar tiki (about 5 feet tall) 14 years ago now I'm wondering if it was also a Haner?

thanks for looking, tikicoma


 
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bigbrotiki
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Posted: 2011-05-17 1:52 pm   Permalink

Whoaaaaa, this is HUGE! That would make Gale Haner not a mere copycat, but an equal to William Westenhaver - at least locally, in Washington state. AND it would explain why, as Kirby noted, his Witco-esque carvings showed so much craftsmanship.

And you actually lived IN the Polynesia Apartments in Tacoma? Wow, those were STUDDED with Tikis! What is their address again?
I photographed a bunch of their Tikis in 1994 when I was up there shooting some Yamaha commercials.











I have to confess that I have treated Washington Tiki apartments kind of step-fatherly in my publications, because they were lacking the architectural flourish of the Southern California A-frames as well as the tropical landscaping. But I was always curious WHO had carved all those pine logs!

Because yes, it was apparent to me that ONE artiste had also done the Tiki at the Tiki Apts...


(no trace of other Tikis there in '94!)

...and the Tikis at the Kona Village Apts in Bremerton!:



The Kona Village had these simple masks plastered along the buildings...



...which were impressive because of their sheer numbers:



The best thing there was the front (see also BOT page 226):



...where on the left we can see the SAME wooden cut out Tiki than the ones you found at the Tiki Apts!:



I wonder what the panel one on the right looked like painted!

If Gale Haner did indeed do all this, he is up there with the rest of them like Guanko, Bumatay, Ellis, Schmaltz, Crissman, Westenhaver and West! Please try to unearth photographic evidence from the son, memory gets hazy over time, even among direct family members. Ask if he has any paperwork of his dad's jobs left, too.

I now even would say that maybe he also did the strange cut out gods at the Tongaroa Apts in Bremerton:



Though they are a little different in style...





And why not the big mask at the Islander Apts in Seattle?:





I think YOUR Tiki looks very much like a cross between one of his apartment Tikis and his faux Witco Tikis.
Is that two-faced Tiki and those others sitting out at the Tiki Apts?

If you can find more proof from the son, this will be an important advance in American Tiki history!


 
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bigbrotiki
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Posted: 2011-05-17 2:46 pm   Permalink

PS: I had forgotten I had posted some of this here 5 years ago:

http://www.tikiroom.com/tikicentral/bb/viewtopic.php?topic=18004&forum=1&6

Well, since then I figured out how to improve on the scanning of my slides!

....and I checked the address for the Polynesia Apts, and low and behold, it was one of several Washington area apartments which were ALSO supplied with artifacts from Oceanic Arts. It must have been a fine Tiki temple in the 60s and 70s:



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tikicoma
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From: wakinekona
Posted: 2011-07-03 8:59 pm   Permalink

Well it looks like who carved the Tikis at the various apartments around here is still a mystery. Gale Haners son did have photos, mostly masks, a budha, the nude girl, birds and some of the stuff that was in the newspaper photo, but no Tikis. When I last spoke with him he said he didn't think any of his dads carvings were bigger than five foot tall. but I did find another pic on microfilm from the tacoma paper, this is from a bad print from that microfilm, sorry about the quality.



It's hard to see but the taller Tiki on the table looks a lot like the on I have.



So the hunt is still on, next month there is a carvers event near by, with luck one of them can point me in the right direction. aloha, tikicoma

[ This Message was edited by: tikicoma 2011-07-03 21:05 ]


 
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bigbrotiki
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Posted: 2011-07-03 11:06 pm   Permalink

Darn, close, but no cigar....thank you for investigating, Tikicoma. Man, it would be great to find a good quality version of that microfilm picture -but the library one is already a great find.

 
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tikicoma
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From: wakinekona
Posted: 2012-01-15 10:38 pm   Permalink

Ladies and gents... Gale Haner.



I've been loaned what seems to be Mr. Haners personal scrapbook and I'm finally able to scan at will. Many more photo's soon to be posted of his more tiki like carvings.



His business was, Gale Haner Signs and Designs. There are a lot of commercial carved signs, free standing and wall mounted carvings and carved wood with chunk-resin lamps. (chateau tiki? where was this?)

aloha for now, tikicoma


 
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bigbrotiki
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Posted: 2012-01-16 12:20 am   Permalink

Sweet jeezass, that sign is amazing! If someone would have shown that to me without the background info, I would have pegged it as an a bit over the top Tiki Revival pop piece, something that Tipsy would make - and I would have congratulated Tim to the great concept!

I love it when the real thing supersedes the possibilities of what one could conjure up as a fantasy!

It's wonderful that material like this still turns up, thank you Tikicoma!



 
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Tipsy McStagger
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Posted: 2012-01-16 09:46 am   Permalink

I might have to rip off this design for a sign in my own home tiki bar !!

 
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bigbrotiki
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Posted: 2012-01-16 1:58 pm   Permalink

I would think so! And who's gonna be the first to make a T-shirt from it !?

Contact Tikicoma/ Gale's son first, though. Not that something like that would make a sizable profit...but it's the right thing to do.



 
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Tipsy McStagger
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Posted: 2012-01-16 5:35 pm   Permalink

I'm not in the t-shirt biz... gonna have to pass on that.

 
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tikicoma
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Posted: 2012-01-21 10:25 pm   Permalink

Forgive me for hijacking this thread but I'm going to post many photos from Gale Haner's portfolio/scrapbook. First up the tikis.

























Definitely some were Witco inspired but many seem to be originals.

aloha, tikicoma

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