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DJ Terence Gunn
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Posted: 2007-05-20 8:18 pm   Permalink

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On 2007-05-20 18:35, VampiressRN wrote:
Great to hear you are spinnin the UL on your gigs DJ...I just may try those other series CDs that you mentioned...thanks.



The ironic thing about those Ultra Lounge compilations, though, is that before they saw the light of day I had been doing a weekly Lounge night called 'Shaken, Not Stirred' (starting in January 1996), and each week I hosted and DJed a different musical theme: Latin Lounge, Spy's Night Out, Swingin' N' Loungin', Rat Pack, Nonstop To Brasil, Stage & Screen Scene, Exotica!, Swinger's Night Out, etc. Then these Ultra Lounge compilations are released shortly thereafter -- many bearing the same or similar musical themes and music, but going even farther than I did. Coincidence?


 
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VampiressRN
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Posted: 2007-05-20 8:45 pm   Permalink

Well it does make ya wonder. But the world is a small place and so many of us have similar likes and interests, many of them the things we were exposed to as youngsters. All good things circle back around eventually.
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Quince_at_Dannys
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Posted: 2007-05-21 2:06 pm   Permalink

If you like the Ultra-Lounge series, it's worth it for you to track down the RCA series called "History of Space Age Pop." There were three volumes, now out of print but you can usually track them down on ebay or Amazon.com. The Ultra-Lounge series is exclusively Capitol and Liberty recording artists whereas the RCA fills in the gaps for those lovers of Mancini, Esquivel, and the Three Suns. The third volume is basically a Greatest Hits collection of the greatest space age concept albums, the "Stereo Action" series. If you've never heard the Three Suns' amazing version of Caravan you haven't lived! (Incidentally, a lot of the Stereo Action series was released on CD by RCA Spain and can be tracked down on Amazon.com without too much trouble--highly recommended)

The Ultra Lounge series and the History of Space Age Pop are both must-have series; my only complaint is I wish they would release more volumes!


 
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Digitiki
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Posted: 2007-05-22 11:18 am   Permalink

The frustrating thing about the Ultra Lounge series is that it wets the appetite for the whole albums. Some great vintage albums are represented by only a couple of songs in the entire UL series. Its like looking at a guat warehouse through a keyhole. But don't get me wrong, I have my UL CD's in heavy rotation!
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Tiki Kollektor
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Posted: 2007-05-22 11:20 am   Permalink

This might be a really dumb question, but it's something I've been wondering about for a while now and this thread might be the place for it:

What original music inspired the Austin Powers theme? What else from the period sounds like that?


 
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Tiki Kollektor
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Posted: 2007-05-22 11:25 am   Permalink

just used search and answered my own dumb question -- Soul Bossa Nova. ya learn somethin new every day

 
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DJ Terence Gunn
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Posted: 2007-05-22 1:51 pm   Permalink

Quincy Jones' 'Soul Bossa Nova'. Though it was released long before, 'Soul Bossa Nova' appeared on the Rhino Cocktail Mix Vol. 2 compilation -- Martini Madness, released in early 1996. I used to play it all the time at my weekly Lounge nights in 1996. Then later, when the Austin Powers film came out, and I played the song, everyone kept referring to it as the theme to Austin Powers. I hadn't seen the film, so was pretty annoyed by the reference.

It's interesting how a lot of old, forgotten music got new recognition in films and TV through the issue of these mid-1990s Lounge compilations. For example, the discs 'Music For TV Dinners' from Scamp have always been a favourite of mine. Some of the songs have been used on Nick At Night and Ren & Stimpy, as well as in various TV commercials. Then there's the excellent Sound Gallery and In Flight Entertainment compilations from England. I could go on and on.....


 
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Quince_at_Dannys
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Posted: 2007-05-22 2:18 pm   Permalink

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On 2007-05-22 11:18, Digitiki wrote:
The frustrating thing about the Ultra Lounge series is that it wets the appetite for the whole albums. Some great vintage albums are represented by only a couple of songs in the entire UL series. Its like looking at a guat warehouse through a keyhole. But don't get me wrong, I have my UL CD's in heavy rotation!




That's pretty much how I feel, but maybe that's not a bad thing to get more people into the genre. For me, the Ultra-Lounge series has been like a useful roadmap to the world of collecting vinyl of that era. And one thing I've noticed about the series is that there are relatively few records represented for how many songs there are (i.e. almost every song on Terry Snyder's "Mister Percussion" LP is featured throughout the series.) It's too bad that they don't release the entire record in its original form but then again who would buy it (except me and maybe I Zombie from Jet Set Planet.)


 
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lucas vigor
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Posted: 2007-05-23 08:37 am   Permalink

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On 2007-05-22 11:18, Digitiki wrote:
The frustrating thing about the Ultra Lounge series is that it wets the appetite for the whole albums. Some great vintage albums are represented by only a couple of songs in the entire UL series. Its like looking at a guat warehouse through a keyhole. But don't get me wrong, I have my UL CD's in heavy rotation!




So true! I have been able to find a lot of the original complete CDs, but not all by a long shot.

One that I am particularly wishing they would re-release would be the first cut by David Rose, "Gay Spirits" on the "space capades" Ultra lounge. I did find a David Rose CD, but they are all mono, earlier versions of songs including that one, and "holdiay for strings", but what I want is the later versions he recorded in glorious, lush stereo sound. Another great one would be the complete album by (I forgot the artist-Jackie something) of an organ combo on "organs in orbit" ultra lounge-the tracks I have heard are "Love is just around the corner" and "perfidia", and I believe there are a couple of other tracks on one of the other ultra lounge discs. The whole album re-released would be great!!


 
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Digitiki
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Posted: 2007-05-24 10:14 am   Permalink

Lucas,
Oh yeah, I hear ya! I just met a woman who's son worked for Capitol and can vouch for the fact that their vaults are loaded with digitized archival copies of EVERYTHING. ARGHH!!!! Some of the items that are sampled in the ultra lounge series that I would personally love to see released is the Out Islanders "Polynesian Paradise", Augie Colon's "Sophisticated Savage" IN STEREO. There are virtually no copies of that LP in stereo, however there is a stereo track from that album on one of the UL discs!
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Digitiki
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Posted: 2007-05-24 10:20 am   Permalink

Another rant I have about labels not releasing CD's of certain vintage LPs--
It doesn't take a rocket scientist to see what people are paying on eBay for certain LPs. I've seen some go for $100 - $200. If I were an exec, I think those LPs are the one's I would release because there are certainly people who want that one. Sorry, just a short rant.
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DJ Terence Gunn
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Posted: 2007-05-24 12:21 pm   Permalink

That's EXACTLY what I meant when I said I have issues with the Ultra Lounge series and Capitol in general (aside from not expanding the song and artist selections). I had a portion of the music they released on CD before they released it on those compilations, but the other stuff (some in stereo for the first time) -- the rare stuff -- I would rather have had the full albums to, remastered and in stereo. What do they have to lose? There's a large audience and following for this kind of music (and there will always be new-comers to it in the future), and it wouldn't cost a mega-conglomorate like Capitol much money to release a bunch of their old music, that they already have the rights to.

 
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rupe33
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Posted: 2007-05-24 8:36 pm   Permalink

I agree - Capitol is one of my least-favorite labels of all-time due to their butchering of the Beatles LPs back in the 1960s, and the fact that they've now issued more Beach Boys compilations than the Boys released original albums. Every summer brings a new compilation milking their back catalog.

While the perceived market for these titles might be small from the company's standpoint as far as actual hard-copy product... one could see that a deep catalog full of titles that could be available on-demand (as downloadable files of music & artwork & liner notes) would be a good way to keep the overhead low. Or, a smaller boutique label like the good work being done over at Rhino Handmade is another option. Once word got out on this stuff becoming available, collectors would seek it out.

If they've already got them digitally... why not make them available to those who want them? The money being spent on eBay isn't benefitting the labels in any way.

A hearty BOO to the record companies!

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Quince_at_Dannys
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Posted: 2007-05-25 09:42 am   Permalink

rupe33,

I think you just nailed it, as far as a cost-effective way to get more access to their catalog to fans like us. I kept thinking to myself that they don't release the albums because of the cost of producing CDs, packaging, and shipping for such a limited audience (honestly, there's probably only a few hundred of us who would buy the complete albums from these space age artists.) But selling MP3s is a no-brainer.

I'd like to see them do iTunes style pricing format but make it even cheaper--$0.50 a song and $5 an album for "Capitol Classics." The guy on basichip.com has a setup kind of like that ($2.00 an album) but Capitol would have the marketing muscle to sell a helluva lot more copies. Even I would buy some of the things already have on vinyl, just to get the high-quality master.

Of course the suits at Capitol are so fricken' clueless they won't catch on for another 10 years.


 
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DJ Terence Gunn
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Posted: 2007-05-25 12:49 pm   Permalink

I second that, rupe. Talk about a method that really has no drawbacks and risks, pay per individual song and album downloads by these rare Atomic and Space Age masters is inarguable. The proof of the popularity is, indeed, in the downloading. However, there's more to it than that. Sure it wouldn't cost Capitol anything -- it's just another project for their salary and hourly paid employees anyway. But to the download sites like iTunes, Real, etc. it's another matter, one that involves money, bandwidth, licencing and royalties (usually directly to BMI, ASCAP, and SEASAC, but not directly to the artists themselves -- many, in this case, who are no longer with us and do not have any estates), etc.

As far as it costing Capitol much money in releasing these rare artists' albums on disc, I think everyone here would be surprised how little it costs these big companies to produce and market CDs -- pennies to a dollar or two, pending the circumstances of the product and how many produced. However, making a little profit is of little interest to them. They want big profit. And though I'm not in the business, I know the best way to make profit: cut out the middleman. In this day and age with the internet, media downloads, blogs, free advertising, do-it-yourself technology, and sites such as tikicentral, the middleman for record companies is absolutely superfluous. And in this case, when I say middleman, I also mean superfluous practises -- practises that may have had some legitimacy in the past but that are no longer necessary today.

But it makes me wonder. The Ultra Lounge series, I should think, did very well for Capitol and beyond their expectations; and they continued to release quite a few throughout the years, which constitutes the proof of sales. I still see the compilations in record stores today (even though they were more a product of the mid to late 1990s, and most likely considered for a niche audience only -- which can be in the hundreds of thousands, if one thinks about it realistically).

Perhaps a gathering of names and signatures and putting in requests for these albums to be released on CD is the way to go about it -- much like they do on Amazon.com for movie reissues onto DVD. Perhaps Hanford and Humuhumu and the other moderators can implement such a feature into the tikicentral website?


 
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